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ultragaijin
04-24-2002, 03:03 AM
Activists urge DoCoMo boycott (http://www.asahi.com/english/national/K2002042300387.html).
They say the company's policy of seeking a 30,000 deposit from non-permanent residents is discriminatory...foreigners' rights groups are calling for a boycott of the mobile phone titan.
Not to mention, DoCoMo is too expensive in the first place. I've had both J-phone and AU service without any such deposit, as long my accounts were on a credit card. And the phones were practically free. (And yes, they worked fine.)
kamome
04-25-2002, 01:15 AM
OK, I've gotta' weigh in on this subject. When I moved to Japan, I simply had to have a DoCoMo phone after hearing about how cool i-mode was, etc. But what a nightmare trying to get one of their phones if you're a gaijin! They don't (yet) allow credit card purchases by gaijins and you have to have a finalized bank account and alien registration card already in hand if you want to get their frickin' phones.
So basically if you want a DoCoMo phone when you come to Japan, you have to do things in this order: 1) find a place to live so that you have a Japan address (that can take up to a month depending on your budget and availability), 2) take that home address to the city/prefectural hall and register for your gaijin card, 3) take the form indicating that you filed at city hall over to the bank and set up an account, 4) wait 14 business days for your gaijin card to be processed and then go pick it up since they won't mail it to you, 5) take your gaijin card and bank card to a Docomo store and buy the phone. The whole process can take up to 2 months!
As an aside, I have to say that the activist group may have it wrong about the permanent residence thing. As far as I know, any gaijin can attain permanent residence status after residing in Japan for 5 years. But attaining Japanese citizenship is much harder and does require finding a spouse plus living in Japan a number of years and probably some other requirements. Either way, you won't get DoCoMo without providing all that documentation. What a pain in the ass.
sorrydaijin
04-25-2002, 02:13 AM
wow... I just hate NTT in general for being an evil corporate monopoly that tries to suck us all dry. To think that my behaviour was actually justified!!!
Harvey
04-25-2002, 07:44 AM
Wow I didn't know that... I really wanted a imode phone as well (going over in June).
What are some good alternatives? Any suggestions? I would like one that can do email if possible... hrm.
Harvey
04-25-2002, 07:47 AM
It's debito! I have heard of this guy! he's amazing!
http://www.debito.org/
ultragaijin
04-25-2002, 07:51 AM
Like I said, AU and J-Phone are great alternatives. Walk into any big electronics store with a credit card and you'll have a working phone with email, internet and whatever features you want in about an hour. No hassle. Every new phone in Japan has had email/net functions for years - unlike the US.
kamome
04-25-2002, 03:58 PM
Basically, it boils down to whether you're willing to wait to get an i-mode phone (or 3G Foma phone), or if you would rather get a different phone right away. Ultragaijin is right that J-Phone and AU are great alternatives (and cheap too). But DoCoMo is ahead of its competitors (Japanese or ootherwise) in terms of services provided and technology. As a long-term resident gaijin, I decided to go for a DoCoMo to take advantage of their cool features, but now I think I could have gone for a J-Phone and been equally happy.
cstaylor
04-30-2002, 11:51 PM
:lol:
ultragaijin
05-01-2002, 02:58 AM
Had my wife use her name to escape the Gaijin tax.
Let us know when you get out of prison.
cstaylor
05-01-2002, 10:22 AM
... I'll probably be on a one-way trip back to the U.S., courtesy of the wonderful Japanese immigration office. 8O
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