Working Visa without Degree

[Anonymous]

Hello everybody! I was wondering if you guys might be able to help me out. Has anybody ever gotten a Full Working Visa without having a degree?

I really want to stay in Japan and work, but im not sure if this is possible or not.

I would appreciate any help or responses.

Also... What is the worst that can happen to you if you use a fake degree...?

Thanks heaps

Haroo

[Taro Toporific]

"a fake degree...?"

It's been done before.

Japanese Immigration have accepted fake degrees for a Work Visa if:
1.) the employer is 100% supportive of the employee's "bona fides", and
2.) the visa candidate looks the part---that is, a clean-cut Westerner in a quality suit.

For example:
The extremely successful entrepreneur, Terry Lloyd of JapanInc.com brags about being a high-school dropout. I've watched in person a couple of English language journalists here get a Work Visa with a bogus degree AND fake college transcripts.

Think about it: Do you think all those journalists at the weekly free newspapers for gaijin have a degree? Ha. Even the major English papers here have editors without a real degree.

It's possible. It's fun.
And it's the fastest way to get screwed too!
(THINK of Japanese employer's potential for blackmail, wage cuts, slavery . . .)

Good Ruck!

Taro Toporific
--- It's toporific!

[Anonymous]

All you need is a degree of insanity

[Anonymous]

does the law say americans MUST have a BA in order to get a working visa? Is it possible to work w/out a degree.. (not faking having one..)???

[Taro Toporific]

does the law say americans MUST have a BA in order to get a working visa? Is it possible to work w/out a degree.. (not faking having one..)???

As mentioned before, you need a very "special" skill without college: French Chef, keitai programmer, "entertainer, etc.
Basically, persons coming to Japan don't have wonderful special skills, otherwise they would not be coming here :lol:

Think of it this way... If you don't have a BA or BS, you'll be always be in a "underclass" situation where your employeer will cheat you and try to underpay you. It a much worse than joining the military as enlisted rather than starting in officers school (with a BA/BS).

In the end, EVERYTHING is case-by-case in Japan.

[Kyoto Gaijin]

If you have 3 years provable work experience in a field related to art or language you can get a "culture and humanities" visa, as long as the company you're going to can employ you in that role.

[Anonymous]

Wait, so how could you rig a situation where you're a full time writer or novelist, and live on a work visa? Would you have to have some sort of sponsor, even though you're not technically employed?

Could you even get a work visa in that situation, or what?


Maybe I just answered my own question, because if you're not employed, you're not working, right? heh...

[Greener]

does the law say americans MUST have a BA in order to get a working visa? Is it possible to work w/out a degree.. (not faking having one..)???

As mentioned before, you need a very "special" skill without college: French Chef, keitai programmer, "entertainer, etc.
Basically, persons coming to Japan don't have wonderful special skills, otherwise they would not be coming here :lol:

Think of it this way... If you don't have a BA or BS, you'll be always be in a "underclass" situation where your employeer will cheat you and try to underpay you. It a much worse than joining the military as enlisted rather than starting in officers school (with a BA/BS).

In the end, EVERYTHING is case-by-case in Japan.

Don't forget, I understand that if you have taken enough courses in your field and have the certifications to prove to equate to a degree you can get a work visa as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[kamome]

Wait, so how could you rig a situation where you're a full time writer or novelist, and live on a work visa? Would you have to have some sort of sponsor, even though you're not technically employed?

Could you even get a work visa in that situation, or what?


Maybe I just answered my own question, because if you're not employed, you're not working, right? heh...

How the hell do you expect to "live" if you've got no degree and expect to just write novels? You better have a lot of savings, dude.

[cstaylor]

How the hell do you expect to "live" if you've got no degree and expect to just write novels? You better have a lot of savings, dude.Ok, sing along...."It's time to do the timewarp again..."

[kotatsuneko]

I know of a canadian bloke who worked happily for a year or so in Hokkaido, then all of a sudden his employer decided to check out some of their teachers degrees, found his was fake and got him deported very swiftly indeed..

imho do it properly or not at all, also think about i: another gaijin breaking immigration rules just makes it harder for everyone else when the yearly statistics are looked at by that mofo blinkywanker :roll:

[GridReaper]

I have a friend who is dying to quit his job here and move to Yokohama. Unfortunately, he only has a 2 year associates degree in computer science.

If he wants to get into the teaching McJob, will his current degree work for his as credentials? How about those online TEFL courses with certification?

[Taro Toporific]

I have a friend who is dying to quit his job here and move to Yokohama. Unfortunately, he only has a 2 year associates degree in computer science.

If he wants to get into the teaching McJob, will his current degree work for his as credentials? How about those online TEFL courses with certification?

Nope (unless it is a 4-year accredited institution offering a 4-yr degree online).

Just read all of "TERRIE'S JOB TIPS" (http://www.japan.com/jobs/index.php), specifically:
No 103. No Degree (http://www.japan.com/jobs/jobtips/103.php)

Terrie, is a Tokyo zillionare and highschool dropout who "made it" in Japan on a smile and Zuzushii!

[Taro Toporific]

I have a friend who is dying to quit his job here and move to Yokohama. Unfortunately, he only has a 2 year associates degree in computer science.
If he wants to get into the teaching McJob, will his current degree work for his as credentials? How about those online TEFL courses with certification?

For NOVA
He can cheat, and get a fake degree.

OR... He can teach preschool with various 2-year degrees, but he will need to be married to a Japanese to get a visa.