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GomiGirl
07-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before.

The Most Important Elements in Japanese Culture, Especially for Those Doing Business with Japan (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977025266)

The author: Kevin Bucknall, BSc(Econ), PhD is the author of 5 books; this article was extracted and adapted from a recent one, Japan: Doing Business in a Unique Culture, Boson Books, North Carolina, USA, 2006.

Drunks Occupy a Special Place in the Culture
Many Japanese seem to regard them tolerantly or with some amusement, even when they are rowdy. A sort of gstage drunkh appears in quite a few Japanese movies and despite the character being unreliable, untrustworthy, or possibly a thief, he is normally presented in a humorous and understanding manner.

It is acceptable, probably desirable and really inevitable that you become drunk while doing business in Japan. When you are invited into a Japanese group and they are drinking heavily, you are expected to do the same. Under such circumstances, not to join in enthusiastically would be to let the side down and do your reputation considerable harm. Some of the drunks you will see in the street are highly respectable businessmen on their way home after a social business session with the boys. They are not the lager louts of some Western societies or skid-row residents with a bottle in a paper bag staggering along looking for a doorway to sleep in.

There are just so many things in this article that disturb me, but I really can't put my finger on why. Perhaps it is the attempt to explain a culture and condense into a few paragraphs that always leaves me feeling a bit cheated and pigeon-holed.

amdg
07-20-2007, 04:33 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before.

The Most Important Elements in Japanese Culture, Especially for Those Doing Business with Japan (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977025266)

The author: Kevin Bucknall, BSc(Econ), PhD is the author of 5 books; this article was extracted and adapted from a recent one, Japan: Doing Business in a Unique Culture, Boson Books, North Carolina, USA, 2006.

Drunks Occupy a Special Place in the Culture
Many Japanese seem to regard them tolerantly or with some amusement, even when they are rowdy. A sort of gstage drunkh appears in quite a few Japanese movies and despite the character being unreliable, untrustworthy, or possibly a thief, he is normally presented in a humorous and understanding manner.

It is acceptable, probably desirable and really inevitable that you become drunk while doing business in Japan. When you are invited into a Japanese group and they are drinking heavily, you are expected to do the same. Under such circumstances, not to join in enthusiastically would be to let the side down and do your reputation considerable harm. Some of the drunks you will see in the street are highly respectable businessmen on their way home after a social business session with the boys. They are not the lager louts of some Western societies or skid-row residents with a bottle in a paper bag staggering along looking for a doorway to sleep in.

There are just so many things in this article that disturb me, but I really can't put my finger on why. Perhaps it is the attempt to explain a culture and condense into a few paragraphs that always leaves me feeling a bit cheated and pigeon-holed.

Maybe because, since you're female, you can't get drunk and do business in Japan, all you can do is get drunk and get raped.

Naniwan Kid
07-20-2007, 04:36 PM
I agree. Here's a size 40 brush. Let's paint the business culture of Japan MAUVE.

Mulboyne
07-20-2007, 06:13 PM
A surprising change occurred back in 1993, when it suddenly became the fashion for young unmarried women to dress in wild brief costumes that possessed more than overtones of bondage and S & M, and to attend rave clubs after work.
I remember that change. It was a Tuesday in early February around 8:00pm.

Samurai_Jerk
07-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Ah, yes, Japan. The world's only unique culture.

Taro Toporific
07-20-2007, 07:48 PM
[... Some of the drunks you will see in the street are highly respectable businessmen on their way home after a social business session with the boys. They are not the lager louts of some Western societies or skid-row residents with a bottle in a paper bag staggering along looking for a doorway to sleep in.

.... the attempt to explain a culture and condense into a few paragraphs that always leaves me feeling a bit cheated and pigeon-holed.http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/images/vbimghost/12946a091f7e054a.jpg
There's a pigeon-holing pattern running through Dr. Bucknall posts along with a lot of hops.

An Introduction to Economics in 5,000 Words
Improve Your Marks in Exams: the Meaning of Commonly Used Words
The Most Important Elements in Japanese Culture, Especially for Those Doing Business with Japan
Blah, blah, blah, BELCH....

GomiGirl
07-20-2007, 07:51 PM
Tusker beer is the local beer in Vanuatu!! (where I was last week) Tastes like camel piss. Am hoping that the photo showing him with red nose and cheeks as he has been out in the sun and not alcohol abuse.

amdg
07-20-2007, 08:40 PM
Tusker beer is the local beer in Vanuatu!! (where I was last week) Tastes like camel piss. Am hoping that the photo showing him with red nose and cheeks as he has been out in the sun and not alcohol abuse.

That ain't no sunburn. That's gin blossoms.

cliffy
07-20-2007, 08:43 PM
Tusker beer is the local beer in Vanuatu!! (where I was last week) Tastes like camel piss.
OK, I just DO NOT want to do your research on "bad beer taste alikes" But I will accept your judgments on the beer! Just an aside, do you think the beer was involved in the research for the book?

succubusqueen
07-21-2007, 12:00 AM
Some of the drunks you will see in the street are highly respectable businessmen on their way home after a social business session with the boys. They are not the lager louts of some Western societies or skid-row residents with a bottle in a paper bag staggering along looking for a doorway to sleep in.

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mmm...well I've seen a lot of passed out salary men...on sidewalks, doorways, parks...you name it!:D

Greji
07-21-2007, 12:15 AM
mmm...well I've seen a lot of passed out salary men...on sidewalks, doorways, parks...you name it!:D

You're not supposed to pass them until you've determined if their okay! Plus check if they're wearing a good wristwatch and got anything in their pockets, wallet, etc.
:cool:

Adhesive
07-21-2007, 06:47 AM
I don't know, I've read a lot of bad articles on Japan, but this one isn't so bad as to stand out. Maybe my expectations have been lowered.

succubusqueen
07-21-2007, 11:21 AM
You're not supposed to pass them until you've determined if their okay! Plus check if they're wearing a good wristwatch and got anything in their pockets, wallet, etc.
:cool:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for the advice!

Captain Japan
08-01-2007, 11:37 AM
Tusker beer is the local beer in Vanuatu!! (where I was last week) Tastes like camel piss. Am hoping that the photo showing him with red nose and cheeks as he has been out in the sun and not alcohol abuse.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I was in Vanuatu that week, too. Tusker is actually very good. That bottle in the photo is from someplace other than Vanuatu. Here's the Vanuatu Tusker label.
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2615&stc=1&d=1185935389

Kuang_Grade
08-01-2007, 01:09 PM
http://everythingelephants.com/Mixing_Beer_And_Elephants.html

Note: Do not confuse the Kenyan TUSKER beer with the tusker beer made by Vanuatu Breweries. The latter is named after a wild boar native to the south pacific, and doesn't have anything to to with elephants.

GomiGirl
08-01-2007, 01:31 PM
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I was in Vanuatu that week, too. Tusker is actually very good. That bottle in the photo is from someplace other than Vanuatu. Here's the Vanuatu Tusker label.
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2615&stc=1&d=1185935389

We were both in Vanuatu at the same time?? That is how rumours start you know.. anyway, sad that we didn't know as it would have been fun to have caught up there. Shared a Tusker or two... :D (I still think it tasted like camel piss though)

Greji
08-01-2007, 02:47 PM
That is how rumours start you know..

Since we never left the hotel, the Capt'n couldn't have seen us!

Is that a good one to start on?
:cool:

omae mona
08-02-2007, 04:18 AM
We were both in Vanuatu at the same time?? That is how rumours start you know.. anyway, sad that we didn't know as it would have been fun to have caught up there. Shared a Tusker or two... :D (I still think it tasted like camel piss though)
You got out just in time..
Magnitude 7.2 quake shakes Vanuatu, S. Pacific (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20074633/)

WASHINGTON - A 7.2-magnitude earthquake struck Wednesday in the South Pacific 30 miles southeast of Santo, Vanuatu, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

The quake was at a depth of 107.3 miles, USGS said. The epicenter was also 1,240 miles northeast of Brisbane, Australia.

"Based on all available data a destructive Pacific-wide tsunami not expected and there is no tsunami threat to Hawaii," read an advisory from the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center.

Cyka UchuuJin
10-01-2008, 08:16 AM
Tusker beer is the local beer in Vanuatu!! (where I was last week) Tastes like camel piss. Am hoping that the photo showing him with red nose and cheeks as he has been out in the sun and not alcohol abuse.

oi! dem is fightin words, GG! tusker is one of kenya's finest productions, and a damn fine beer. (don't know about that other beer, anything brewed in a place that i'd have to ask chuck for geographical clarification on would probably taste like camel piss, yes ;) )

that photo of him, he's sitting on the veranda of the norfolk hotel bar in nairobi. the norfolk is where all the colonial fuckfaces go to sit around and spout their vast superiority of african ignorance. which immediately makes me suspicious of anything the guy would have to say. :D