German wants to teach Engrish without a university degree :(

[TyLaw]

Hey guys :) I just signed up today and I was wondering if you could help me out.

So I am not a Native English Speaker and I don't have a University Degree. I will finish my A-Level here in Germany in 1 year from now. After that I am going to Japan with the Working Holiday Visa.

And one of my biggest dreams would be to teach little Japanese children in English and finance my stay over there that way. :)
It's something I always wanted to do in life.

I am very open minded and I speak English very well, without any kind of a strong accent. I am also a very friendly person who smiles a lot.
I actually wanted to do a TOEFL Test, to show the Japanese, that my English is close to a Native Speaker Level.

English is also my best subject in school right now!

Do you guys think, that I have a chance to find a job as an English Teacher?? I appreciate any kind of answer from you guys, just be honest with me.

I will be 24 when I visit Japan for the first time in my life.

Thanks a lot

[GomiGirl]

You will have a working holiday visa so you will find a job fairly easily - even without a degree.

You will find it nearly impossible to get somebody to sponsor a visa for you without a degree.

So use you working holiday visa to decide what you want to do in the future. Teaching English is a great way to get to Japan, find your way etc but it can be a trap that is difficult to get out of later on.

[TyLaw]

You will have a working holiday visa so you will find a job fairly easily - even without a degree.

You will find it nearly impossible to get somebody to sponsor a visa for you without a degree.

So use you working holiday visa to decide what you want to do in the future. Teaching English is a great way to get to Japan, find your way etc but it can be a trap that is difficult to get out of later on.

Thank you for your quick reply Gomi :)

Those are some great news from you. I read so many stuff about not being a native and not having a degree.. that I was already very frustrated.

But your reply really gives me hope again :) I really only want to work there with my WHV. I don't have any aspirations on getting a working visa after that.

So how do you think I should do it? And should I do a TOEFL Test, just so that the Japanese can actually see, that I am on a native level??

And do you think, that I should just walk into the schools in Japan and apply for a job Face to Face? I probably have a lot more chances other then only sending them my application?!
Because I heard that the personal appearance is very important for the Japanese. Is that true?

And where do you think are my best chances, not to lose the job against a Native?!

Thanks so much!

[IparryU]

And one of my biggest dreams would be to teach little Japanese children in English and finance my stay over there that way. :)
It's something I always wanted to do in life.

I dont know who fed you glamor stories about teaching English (or you have other things on your itenerary) but dont stay in it.

Go to Temple Uni here, try to get an extended visa, and get a "real" job...

Great for a start... many people here on this board have done the same thing i think.

Good luck my man!

[TyLaw]

I dont know who fed you glamor stories about teaching English (or you have other things on your itenerary) but dont stay in it.

Go to Temple Uni here, try to get an extended visa, and get a "real" job...

Great for a start... many people here on this board have done the same thing i think.

Good luck my man!

Thanks bud :)

I really don't know exactly why.. but when I first heard about teaching English to Japanese students, I was blown away parry. :) I never thought something like this was even possible without a real education as a teacher.

I believe it must be one of the most unique experiences in life. Even though I only played it down in my mind, I can see why people are getting stuck in this kind of job.

I would never freely teach German students at that age. It wouldn't interest me at all. But to go there, and teach a Japanese class can only be one of the most phenomenal experiences in life.

But what's that Temple Uni all about?? I am going to google it now.

Just can you guys tell me, how I should apply for a teaching job? Should I just walk into all those schools and try my luck? Or would you prefer to write them a real application. I actually would prefer the first option, because I believe my chances for not being a Native aren't that high when I only write them, instead of showing them who I am.

[nottu]

Those are some great news from you. I read so many stuff about not being a native and not having a degree.. that I was already very frustrated.

So how do you think I should do it? And should I do a TOEFL Test, just so that the Japanese can actually see, that I am on a native level??

And do you think, that I should just walk into the schools in Japan and apply for a job Face to Face? I probably have a lot more chances other then only sending them my application?!
Because I heard that the personal appearance is very important for the Japanese. Is that true?

And where do you think are my best chances, not to lose the job against a Native?!
You said your English is close to a Native Speaker Level. You sound like a Japanese student.

[TyLaw]

You said your English is close to a Native Speaker Level. You sound like a Japanese student.

Really :(

And how is this?

Thanks bud :)

I really don't know exactly why.. but when I first heard about teaching English to Japanese students, I was blown away parry. :) I never thought something like this was even possible without a real education as a teacher.

I believe it must be one of the most unique experiences in life. Even though I only played it down in my mind, I can see why people are getting stuck in this kind of job.

I would never freely teach German students at that age. It wouldn't interest me at all. But to go there, and teach a Japanese class can only be one of the most phenomenal experiences in life.

But what's that Temple Uni all about?? I am going to google it now.

Just can you guys tell me, how I should apply for a teaching job? Should I just walk into all those schools and try my luck? Or would you prefer to write them a real application. I actually would prefer the first option, because I believe my chances for not being a Native aren't that high when I only write them, instead of showing them who I am.

[FG Lurker]

You said your English is close to a Native Speaker Level. You sound like a Japanese student.
Aaaaaaand another one bites the dust!

[IparryU]

Really :(

And how is this?
you'll know why when you get here...

dont worry about being" Native, my swedish friend teaches eglish in Kanazawa, no problemo. he knows english better than the brits he teaches with he said...

[Taka-Okami]

Sorry, had a laugh at this. I can just imagine TyLaw laying it down to japs speaking in a McBane-from-the-Simpsons accent. :lol:

[wuchan]

And one of my biggest dreams would be to teach little Japanese children


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[Cyka UchuuJin]

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[TyLaw]

you'll know why when you get here...

dont worry about being" Native, my swedish friend teaches eglish in Kanazawa, no problemo. he knows english better than the brits he teaches with he said...

I'm sorry parry.. but I really don't know if you're being sarcastic or not :(

Do you guys make just fun of me here?

If not, I would really appriciate if somebody could answer me those questions.

How I should apply for a teaching job? Should I just walk into all those schools and try my luck? Or would you prefer to write them a real application??

[Osakadave]

Really :(

And how is this?

You've got some rather unnatural sounding errors and/or awkard phrasings in most of your posts that belie your claim to a near L1 speaker level of fluency.

However, it's still not too hard to get a job at a little "international" preschool/daycare on a WH visa, at least at the places I know like this one in Osaka (http://www.clover-intl.jp/preschool/preschool.html). An old girlfriend worked there and they had Israelis and French teaching English.

[TyLaw]

You've got some rather unnatural sounding errors and/or awkard phrasings in most of your posts that belie your claim to a near L1 speaker level of fluency.

However, it's still not too hard to get a job at a little "international" preschool/daycare on a WH visa, at least at the places I know like this one in Osaka (http://www.clover-intl.jp/preschool/preschool.html). An old girlfriend worked there and they had Israelis and French teaching English.

That's awesome dave :) Thank you for the link. It's just, I can't read really much of it.. :( is there a way, to see how much they pay? And where those schools are??

And thank you for your references about my English writing. I went to OZ for one year, when I was 20 years old and I feel very confident to talk about all kinds of topics now.

Do you believe I also have chances to teach the junior high school? :confused:

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I know a tad about linguistics and language learning (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...?) and have long felt that English, because of the complexities of its grammar and the enormous amount of exceptions to grammatical rules opposed to many other languages, is often best taught by non-native speakers.
OK, your syntax and lexicography are occasionally flawed, but they're nothing like the errors the Japanese will generally make, and you would probably be much easier for them to study under than a native-speaking kid from the country with no real experience of having studied English as a language.
I know SFA about the job market, some I'm useless for your needs, but hope you find something and am sure you'll be a good teacher.

[sillygirl]

https://jobs.gaijinpot.com/

A lot of them are asking for native English speakers.

[TyLaw]

I know a tad about linguistics and language learning (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing...?) and have long felt that English, because of the complexities of its grammar and the enormous amount of exceptions to grammatical rules opposed to many other languages, is often best taught by non-native speakers.
OK, your syntax and lexicography are occasionally flawed, but they're nothing like the errors the Japanese will generally make, and you would probably be much easier for them to study under than a native-speaking kid from the country with no real experience of having studied English as a language.
I know SFA about the job market, some I'm useless for your needs, but hope you find something and am sure you'll be a good teacher.

Thank you for the kind words Hairdo. :)

That is great news for me! I hope you are right^^ I am going to try everything in my Power to fulfil my dream, thats for sure :)


https://jobs.gaijinpot.com/

A lot of them are asking for native English speakers.

Yea, but do they really mean Native Speaker? Or like the writing says, Native Level?

Very confusing if you ask me :confused:

[Yokohammer]

Yea, but do they really mean Native Speaker? Or like the writing says, Native Level?
Here's an example of what some of the others are talking about.
Native speakers of English normally wouldn't say "like the writing says." They might say "like the ad says" or "as stated in the ad," or any number of other variations, but not "like the writing says."

I'm not trying to denigrate your English ability in any way, but you should probably be aware that there are quite a few "clues" that you're not a native speaker in your posts. The above is just one example. It's good to be confident, but you should be careful not to overestimate and perhaps misrepresent your abilities to potential employers.

There are certainly native speakers who don't write or (possibly) speak English as well as you do, but they're probably not the best point of reference. If you say you speak to "native level" most people will take that to mean a "high" native level.

Doesn't mean you can't get a job teaching English to kids though ... the best of luck to you.

[IparryU]

I'm sorry parry.. but I really don't know if you're being sarcastic or not :(

Do you guys make just fun of me here?

If not, I would really appriciate if somebody could answer me those questions.

How I should apply for a teaching job? Should I just walk into all those schools and try my luck? Or would you prefer to write them a real application??
that was a dead serious comment...

but if you aint prepared for sarcasim.... you on ze wrong board my man.

to apply for a job?
gaijinpot.com

gabba or any Engrish teaching school/job/gimmic will do.

[waruta]

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[TyLaw]

Here's an example of what some of the others are talking about.
Native speakers of English normally wouldn't say "like the writing says." They might say "like the ad says" or "as stated in the ad," or any number of other variations, but not "like the writing says."

I'm not trying to denigrate your English ability in any way, but you should probably be aware that there are quite a few "clues" that you're not a native speaker in your posts. The above is just one example. It's good to be confident, but you should be careful not to overestimate and perhaps misrepresent your abilities to potential employers.

There are certainly native speakers who don't write or (possibly) speak English as well as you do, but they're probably not the best point of reference. If you say you speak to "native level" most people will take that to mean a "high" native level.

Doesn't mean you can't get a job teaching English to kids though ... the best of luck to you.

Thanks for the reply Yoko.

I am always trying to improve my English every day. I still have one year ahead of me, before I visit Japan.. so I still have lot's off time for improvement. I always try to write and speak as much as possible.

Actually I am a little bit more worried about my speaking then writing.. I just don't know how I can refresh my conversation skills again?! :confused:
It's the fear that I have, that I might struggle to find the right words at the right moment doing a Job Interview for example.. :(

Maybe I should just practise almost all the situations wich could possibly occur doing a job interview?! Perhaps I should play it down with my sister over and over again :)


that was a dead serious comment...

but if you aint prepared for sarcasim.... you on ze wrong board my man.

to apply for a job?
gaijinpot.com

gabba or any Engrish teaching school/job/gimmic will do.

Sorry for question it in the first place parry :) It's kinda hard for me to figure this board out.

I am going to look through them, thanks parry!