Epileptic Driver kills 7

by **dimwit** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:21 pm

16 in Kyoto mowed down by minivan
Driver plows into busy crosswalk in Gion district
Kyodo, Staff report
KYOTO — Three men and five women were killed and at least nine people were injured Thursday after a minivan crashed into pedestrians on a street in Kyoto's historic Gion district, police and firefighters said.

First responders: Paramedics help people injured by a rampaging minivan at a busy intersection in the historic Gion district in Higashiyama Ward, Kyoto, on Thursday. KYODO

The police confirmed the driver was among the eight fatalities. He was identified as Shingo Fujisaki, 30, from Nishikyo Ward, Kyoto....

Police are treating the accident as a case of negligent driving resulting in death and injury. They plan to autopsy the driver to determine his cause of death and mental condition at the time. Kyodo News learned from Fujisaki's family that he had a history of epilepsy. Police said they will carefully look into any link between his condition and the accident.

From Japan Times

Okay I have a bit of a question. This is the second multiple negligant death commited a person with epilepsy driving a vehicle in the past year. Does Japan not have any rules about this? In both cases the drivers knew they had epilepsy. My brother's girlfriend suffered a grand mal while driving a car (it has her first seizure) and while they didn't charge her, they did take away her licence.

by **Yokohammer** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:37 pm

dimwit wrote:Okay I have a bit of a question. This is the second multiple negligant death commited a person with epilepsy driving a vehicle in the past year. Does Japan not have any rules about this? In both cases the drivers knew they had epilepsy. My brother's girlfriend suffered a grand mal while driving a car (it has her first seizure) and while they didn't charge her, they did take away her licence.

Yes, you're specifically asked if you have any condition that results in a loss of consciousness when you initially get your driver's license and at every renewal. That even includes drowsiness that causes you to fall asleep during normal waking hours.* The problem is that most people who have such conditions simply lie and answer "no" because they want their license.

I'm wondering how long it'll be before they start requiring certification from a doctor just to get a driver's license.

* I'm quite sure of this because I just renewed last Friday.

by **wagyl** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:44 pm

Yokohammer wrote:I'm quite sure of this because I just renewed last Friday.

Happy birthday! (give or take a month or so)
Great service in this country: the licensing centres are open on Good Friday!:hehe:

by **Yokohammer** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:00 pm

wagyl wrote:Happy birthday! (give or take a month or so)
Great service in this country: the licensing centres are open on Good Friday!

Thank you. An Aries I am.
Not only does Good Friday not mean sh*t, but the license centers are open on some Sundays too, depending on where you're at!
I'll take convenience over reverence any day.

by **IparryU** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:01 pm

I have an old friend who was epileptic and cannot get a licence... some rule about not having one for x amount of time...

but ya, i hope that the insurance company cover's this... or peoples gonna have a hard time burying people...

RIP

by **Big Booger** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:00 pm

Is his family on the hook for this shit if his insurance won't cover it?

by **matsuki** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:01 pm

Big Booger wrote:Is his family on the hook for this shit if his insurance won't cover it?

Doubt it...the whole family accountability myth here never seems to hold up when put to the test.

by **Big Booger** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:27 pm

I am glad to hear that. I dated an epileptic once and was so scared when she used to give me blow jobs... Seriously I was nervous every time.

by **Yokohammer** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:42 pm

This is such a horrific accident ... so many dead ... but I can't even imagine how the responsibilities are going to be assigned in this case. If it was indeed an epileptic fit, and the driver is dead, can the family be held responsible? I can't imagine so, but of course TIJ. Absolutely no idea where this one is going.

by **Mike Oxlong** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:53 pm

The onus should be on clinics and hospitals to report diagnoses of epilepsy to the government, which should then rescind drivers licenses. Self reporting does not work.

by **Coligny** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:15 pm

The family knew but let him have a car and drive... make'em walk the plank...

by **Kanchou** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:36 pm

I heard on the radio they were charging *someone* with a crime, possibly his work place?

It might have even been second degree murder.

by **Russell** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:31 pm

At least they did not make him a pilot...

by **Greji** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:05 am

Big Booger wrote:I am glad to hear that. I dated an epileptic once and was so scared when she used to give me blow jobs... Seriously I was nervous every time.

Boog, ain't you supposed to insert something in their mouth to keep them from biting off their tongue? Kind a like CPR for the spasm. But then again, she could have snapped off the ole swizzle stick. Must of been quite the little adventure!
:cool:

by **Coligny** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:08 am

Russell wrote:At least they did not make him a pilot...

YOU REALLY NEED TO GIVE THEM IDEAS ???

SERIOUSLY ?

by **Coligny** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:08 am

Greji wrote:Boog, ain't you supposed to insert something in their mouth to keep them from biting off their tongue? Kind a like CPR for the spasm. But then again, she could have snapped off the ole swizzle stick. Must of been quite the little adventure!

Yes... wood... not wood...

errrr...

never mind...

by **Greji** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:08 am

Doubles-opps

by **Russell** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:19 am

Greji wrote:Boog, ain't you supposed to insert something in their mouth to keep them from biting off their tongue? Kind a like CPR for the spasm. But then again, she could have snapped off the ole swizzle stick. Must of been quite the little adventure!

He should be fine as long as he does not shine his flashlight into her eyes. :cool:

by **Big Booger** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:26 am

It was an adventure Greji. Needless to say it was a short lasting relationship despite her cuteness.

I wonder how many epileptics have licenses in Japan?

by **Catoneinutica** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:55 am

[INDENT]Men who had chased after the vehicle shouted at Fujisaki, "What are you doing?" But Fujisaki, wearing a suit in the driver's seat, looked absentminded and was apparently unable to speak.[/INDENT]

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T120413005370.htm

Whew. Confirmation that he was Japanese.

by **Mike Oxlong** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:12 am

Good thing there aren't any rules to prevent flashing lights of all kinds in roadside advertising.

by **Catoneinutica** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:34 am

Mike Oxlong wrote:Good thing there aren't any rules to prevent flashing lights of all kinds in roadside advertising.

Glad someone brought this up. I'm not epileptic - though I do tend to space out a lot - and wouldn't drive if I were, but Japan seems to be constantly assaulting you with visual pollution that all but dares you to have a seizure: those stupid-ass light sirens on police cars, et al, that are always on for no reason, omnipresent winkly-twinkly roadside lighting, and recently those obnoxious strobe-light-style LED bicycle lights.

-catone
-yes, Japan is one big Pokemon episode

by **Coligny** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:21 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:Glad someone brought this up. I'm not epileptic - though I do tend to space out a lot - and wouldn't drive if I were, but Japan seems to be constantly assaulting you with visual pollution that all but dares you to have a seizure: those stupid-ass light sirens on police cars, et al, that are always on for no reason, omnipresent winkly-twinkly roadside lighting, and recently those obnoxious strobe-light-style LED bicycle lights.

-catone
-yes, Japan is one big Pokemon episode

and the blinking patterns dood... it's all a conspiracy...

by **Coligny** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:22 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:Good thing there aren't any rules to prevent flashing lights of all kinds in roadside advertising.

Actually... Have to check the proper wording... but the road and traffic law forbid to put light or display that could be missinterpreted as traffic signs... or something...

by **Kanchou** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:46 pm

Nothing is more annoying than those fucking fake police car lights on the Kousoku.

That just seems irresponsible.

It's bad enough there's all those flashing lights.

They need to make them pulse slowly instead of flashing. That way they'll be just as visible but less distracting.

by **dimwit** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:34 am

Just came back from Kyoto. I passed the accident site along Shijo Dori and, as police usually do here when they want to pretend to be effective, they had pairs of policemen guarding both sides of the narrow sidestreets, presumeably on the lookout for anymore rogue epileptic drivers. They were very effective in creating pedestrian and traffic congestion, a condition which in general, increases the likelihood of accidents.

by **matsuki** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:38 am

dimwit wrote:Just came back from Kyoto. I passed the accident site along Shijo Dori and, as police usually do here when they want to pretend to be effective, they had pairs of policemen guarding both sides of the narrow sidestreets, presumeably on the lookout for anymore rogue epileptic drivers. They were very effective in creating pedestrian and traffic congestion, a condition which in general, increases the likelihood of accidents.

LOL, "high alert" :rolleyes:

by **Screwed-down Hairdo** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:16 am

Don't forget the tape measures...
There are two signs of increased vigilance by Japanese authorities:
1) Get out a tape measure and measure a distance, preferably to a roadside curb; and,
2) Put on white, Mickey Mouse gloves, point your right index finger and visually scan 180 degrees while confirming with said pointed index finger.

by **dimwit** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:20 am

[quote="Screwed-down Hairdo"]Don't forget the tape measures...
There are two signs of increased vigilance by Japanese authorities:
1) Get out a tape measure and measure a distance, preferably to a roadside curb]

Jesus you have ESP, They were other cops around there and they WERE tape measuring things in a random manner.

by **Catoneinutica** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:19 pm

Coligny wrote:and the blinking patterns dood... it's all a conspiracy...

Fukaduk, C-Man, go back and read my post:

"...those stupid-ass light sirens on police cars, et al, that are always on for no reason..."

"Et al" means those olde-farte-tonari-gumi nitwits in their kei-cars]dans le gout de Starsky et Hutch[/I].

The only conspiracy I theorize about is the Penumbra of Mystery that surrounds your Lotharingian brain.

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