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47 Year Old American Killed In Nishi Azabu

Postby Mulboyne » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:27 pm

On Friday the 29th February, a 47 Year old American man was drunk and acting violently in a club in Nishi Azabu, Tokyo. A 29 year old Japanese man from Setagaya ward attacked him and he later died of head injuries while on his way to hospital. This Japanese news report goes on to say that the relatively well-to-do area of Nishi Azabu may seem an unlikely place for such an incident but quotes a local resident who claims that conflicts between foreigners and Japanese are almost an everyday occurrence. He then goes on to claim that foreigners often spill over from Roppongi and walk around arrogantly, come on to Japanese girls in the clubs and cause trouble for their boyfriends. They also cross the road against a red light and will kick any car that sounds a horn at them. He says that the area doesn't feel like Japan anymore and local people are now scared to go out. The article concludes that these no-good foreigners give a bad reputation to everyone. So, just to sum up, the article details in two lines how a middle-aged drunken American has been attacked and killed by a young Japanese guy in one of the wealthiest parts of Tokyo and then spends 11 more lines quoting some local loon saying how it is the fault of foreigners and why it's a dangerous place for Japanese people.

A more factual article from the Nikkei names the American as Tucker Richard Scott (although it's not clear whether that's the right order) and his assailant as Atsushi Watanabe. Watanabe apparently works as a DJ in the club where he attacked Scott. He held him by his throat while hitting him and the report suggests that Scott may have died from strangulation. Watanabe is reported to have said "I went too far". This Sankei report says the incident took place around 10:40pm.
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Postby Captain Japan » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:46 pm

Ni-channel has a little thread going here.
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Postby bolt_krank » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:39 pm

Had a look at N-chan.
After skipping the meaningless stuff - it looks like there's a lot of frustrated little otakus out there.
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Postby halfnip » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:29 pm

What a shame... It makes me wonder where all the security was. They are all over you BEFORE getting inside, then once you're in---there's no security whatsoever.

These idiots rambling on 2Ch are pathetic. Someone walking down the street being loud and or drunk and it's OK for him to get killed because "he was asking for it". Kinda different when it's rape then? She was asking for it then? :shakeh:

Nishi-Azabu used to be a lot more laid back 5 years ago, until they started cleaning up Roppongi, eventually pushing it all down to places like Muse and Alife...
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Postby pbm » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:13 pm

knowing how the japanese operate in the clubs. this guy was most likely held down by several others, while the wimp dj pussy took his shots.
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Postby Midwinter » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:17 pm

Disgusting. Haven't seen this on the TV news yet either, what's up with that? Had it been the other way around, no doubt the whole country would have heard about it by now.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:13 pm

Using this as an excuse for gaijin bashing is fucked up, but maybe the guy did deserve to get beat to death.
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Postby Midwinter » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:28 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Using this as an excuse for gaijin bashing is fucked up, but maybe the guy did deserve to get beat to death.


I'd say no one deserves getting beaten to death, but considering who I'm replying to, I can see where it might be a good thing.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:33 pm

Midwinter wrote:I'd say no one deserves getting beaten to death, but considering who I'm replying to, I can see where it might be a good thing.


Starting with you, you whale fucking faggot.


I don't mean that he literally deserved to get beat to death, but for all we know he spit in the guy's face and back-handed his girlfriend. Maybe one doesn't really deserve to die for that, but if it results in a fatal ass beating it's understandable.
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Postby Jack » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:43 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Starting with you, you whale fucking faggot.


I don't mean that he literally deserved to get beat to death, but for all we know he spit in the guy's face and back-handed his girlfriend. Maybe one doesn't really deserve to die for that, but if it results in a fatal ass beating it's understandable.


You can also say that the J-guy probably did not mean to kill him either. He probably wanted to whack him good, for sure, but not to kill him. We don't know all the facts yet. The gaijing probably had it coming but the Japanese dude may not have intended on killing him.
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Postby Typhoon » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:03 am

pbm wrote:knowing how the japanese operate in the clubs. this guy was most likely held down by several others, while the wimp dj pussy took his shots.


Certainly a possibility. Many against one seems to be a common thread through many asian cultures starting wth school bullying.
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Postby Greji » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:05 am

Jack wrote:You can also say that the J-guy probably did not mean to kill him either. He probably wanted to whack him good, for sure, but not to kill him. We don't know all the facts yet. The gaijing probably had it coming but the Japanese dude may not have intended on killing him.


Yup, but the problem is that saying that he had it coming, is like being almost pregnant. There ain't no such category. You either are, or you are not. So it would appear that since the FG is dead, whether he was eligible for an ass kicking or not, the J-dude is heading up the river for daily proctology lessons.
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Postby Typhoon » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:09 am

Greji wrote:Yup, but the problem is that it's like being almost pregnant. There ain't no such category. You either are, or you are not. So it would appear that since the FG is dead, whether he was eligible for an ass kicking or not, the J-dude is heading up the river for daily proctology lessons.
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Unless he shows "sincere regret" in front of the judges complete with the requisite sobbing.

They'll commute it to a slap on the wrist and a promise not to do it again.
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Postby Greji » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:17 am

Typhoon wrote:Unless he shows "sincere regret" in front of the judges complete with the requisite sobbing.

They'll commute it to a slap on the wrist and a promise not to do it again.


You're right. I didn't think about that. The victim was an FG, it's not like it was something serious, like shoplifting, or failure to pay the NHK man. The perp will probably walk on a misdemeanor.
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Postby halfnip » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:35 am

Greji wrote:You're right. I didn't think about that. The victim was an FG, it's not like it was something serious, like shoplifting, or failure to pay the NHK man. The perp will probably walk on a misdemeanor.
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OR sitting in the pub without your FG card... :D
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Postby Neo-Rio » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:22 am

Most of the problems in the clubs are started by these weedy frustrated Japanese guys who think that they can affront gaijin and get away with it because they're Japanese. The minute we touch them in any way, they typically tend to squeal and threaten to rat on the cops. Had they tried acting like this in our home countries, they'd have seven shades of shite knocked out of them - but here in Japan they assume that they have every right to give us crap - because they know the law will fall on their side in any incident.

I've seen more fights between Japanese guys here than foreigners. I've been accosted twice by Japanese guys who thought I was "hitting on their girlfriend". In one case in Nishi-Azabu, apparently having a normal conversation was enough for one jealous boyfriend yell at me angrily, and pull his girlfriends hair and slap her around for talking to me in the first place. Both of them were kicked out eventually to sort out their differences - but just goes to show the small dick syndrome.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:04 pm

Neo-Rio wrote:Most of the problems in the clubs are started by these weedy frustrated Japanese guys who think that they can affront gaijin and get away with it because they're Japanese. The minute we touch them in any way, they typically tend to squeal and threaten to rat on the cops. Had they tried acting like this in our home countries, they'd have seven shades of shite knocked out of them - but here in Japan they assume that they have every right to give us crap - because they know the law will fall on their side in any incident.

I've seen more fights between Japanese guys here than foreigners. I've been accosted twice by Japanese guys who thought I was "hitting on their girlfriend". In one case in Nishi-Azabu, apparently having a normal conversation was enough for one jealous boyfriend yell at me angrily, and pull his girlfriends hair and slap her around for talking to me in the first place. Both of them were kicked out eventually to sort out their differences - but just goes to show the small dick syndrome.

Hey angry dude,
before blaming J-dudes, you "good" gaijin dudes yourselves (if you are one) should exterminate "evil" gaijin dudes who behave rudely to Japanese.
Have you ever done that thing? Whuh?
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:09 pm

And I heard that you Euro-American dudes also behave arrogantly in Thailand or the other asian countries. Probably this killed gaijin dude is one of those dudes who do rude things in short small people countries, which they never can do in their home countries. losers
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Postby Charles » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:40 pm

Greji wrote:You're right. I didn't think about that. The victim was an FG, it's not like it was something serious...

Yes, there's an old police acronym for this sort of victimless crime, "NHI," No Humans Involved.
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Postby Neo-Rio » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:08 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Hey angry dude,
before blaming J-dudes, you "good" gaijin dudes yourselves (if you are one) should exterminate "evil" gaijin dudes who behave rudely to Japanese.
Have you ever done that thing? Whuh?


You could look at that video and think "hey those guys are being idiots" OR you could see that there are some (rather clueless) gaijins trying to communicate with people from another culture.

It all depends on your perspective. I mean, you'd have to have pretty bad seishin to find evil in everything.

The fact is, most gaijin who come to Japan AREN'T xenophobic (otherwise they would go back home) and a lot of Japanese people IN Japan ARE.
I think you will find that the reverse is true for foreign Japanese visitors to other countries.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:05 pm

That a 47-year-old would end up like this seems a little surprising. You'd think at that superannuated stage in life (I'm almost there meself), a guy would be too tired to get into testosterone-fueled fights at clubs. Anyway, poor guy. Alas, he'll soon be forgotten, like that American who was beaten to death in Kawasaki a couple of years ago. That Hattori kid who was shot in Louisiana 16-or-so years ago? We all remember him - J folks seem to be the supreme mantle-of-victimhood wearers. Sure the perp in this case is complaining that the 47-year-old guy's adam's apple bruised his knuckles.
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Postby Livehouse12345 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:30 pm

Scott was a guy who liked a drink, sometimes maybe a few too many but I always found him to be one of the kindest and most generous people I know. He always had time for a chat. He was a self made man with a very successful business, I can't believe that he is no longer with us! It just goes to show that you never know what's going to happen when youve had a few too many. Rest in Peace Tucker..... You will be missed!
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Postby Greji » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:34 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Hey angry dude,
before blaming J-dudes, you "good" gaijin dudes yourselves (if you are one) should exterminate "evil" gaijin dudes who behave rudely to Japanese.
Have you ever done that thing? Whuh?


How did I know you couldn't stay away from this one Take? At any rate, so the guy was drunk. Is that the new code of the flower children? If he's drunk and rude, kill him?

Is "exterminate the evil gaijins" the new flower fad? What happens if they get a strict judge who doesn't buy this shit and decides to let this guy drop through a hole in the floor with only a rope around his neck to keep him from bruising his widdle body on the floor?

Choking a person to death is not an easy, nor a fast thing to do and thusly, claiming to accidentally kill a person this way is extremely hard to defend. Your J-idol better pray they find some other physical evidence to support his claim, or he is going to be doing that one string puppet dance.
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Postby ttjereth » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:56 pm

Greji wrote: Your J-idol better pray they find some other physical evidence to support his claim, or he is going to be doing that one string puppet dance.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:23 pm

Livehouse12345 wrote:Scott was a guy who liked a drink, sometimes maybe a few too many but I always found him to be one of the kindest and most generous people I know. He always had time for a chat. He was a self made man with a very successful business, I can't believe that he is no longer with us! It just goes to show that you never know what's going to happen when youve had a few too many. Rest in Peace Tucker..... You will be missed!


Thanks for that note. Some of the news reports described him as "unemployed" but it seems from what you say that they just hadn't figured out what he did for a living.
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Postby Captain Japan » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:13 pm

I am having a tough time finding any further information in English or Japanese (and I am not considering ni-channel to be worthwhile). I am guessing that is what lead Livehouse here. Livehouse, it would seem you knew him well. I am glad you took a bit of time to post given the circumstances.

Given that a death was involved I am a bit puzzled that this hasn't appeared in English anywhere.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:03 pm

Another thank you to Livehouse for the info. Very, very sad news indeed.
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Postby Livehouse12345 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:30 pm

Yeah this site is the only news that I could find in English, having read a couple of small Japanese news items it seems that us foreigners are always in the wrong, I can imagine the situation having known Scott well and maybe he was being out of order and maybe he did cause some trouble or said the wrong thing after a few too many whiskys but, there is a big difference between trying to calm someone down, throw them out or rough them up a little and causing enough damage to kill them! The Few small news items that I have read in the Japanese media have said that the "DJ was trying to calm him down and stop him being agressive"!!? Having been in the club business for some time and having handled many drunken people I can't understand how someone trying to calm down the situation or throw someone out could inflict enough damage to kill without loosing it and knowingly trying to seriously hurt that person. We have all lost it at some point but I think it's fair to say everyone knows when someones had enough! I presume the DJ and staff of the club were sober? If so that makes the situation even more unbelievable! As has been said before if an American guy had killed a drunk Japanese man that was playing up it would be front page news and the lead story on news at 7
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Postby kusai Jijii » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:41 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:weak dudes who are loser in their home country come to Japan to seek weaker-than-them dudes.


Couldn't help yourself, could you fuck wad? I mean the guy is fucking dead. And you aint even Japanese. Was it worth the laugh?

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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:50 pm

Hey two goats,
I just talked about general view of gaijin dudes, not about this 47 year old oyaji.
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