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Mulboyne wrote:
IHT: 'No massacre in Nanking,' Japanese lawmakers say
About 100 Japanese governing party lawmakers denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication on Tuesday, contesting Chinese claims that Japanese soldiers killed hundreds of thousands of people after seizing the Chinese city in 1937. The members of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's Liberal Democratic Party said there was no evidence to prove mass killings by Japanese soldiers in the captured Nationalist capital, then known as Nanking. They accused Beijing of using the alleged incident as a "political advertisement." Nariaki Nakayama, head of the group created to study World War II historical issues and education, said documents from the Japanese government's archives indicated that about 20,000 people were killed - about one-tenth of the more commonly cited figure of 150,000 to 200,000 - in the 1937 attack...more...
Nariaki Nakayama, head of the group, said members could not let "lies and deceit be spread around the world" on the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the city's fall. He was referring to a number of coming movies about Nanjing, including one based on Iris Chang's best-selling book, The Rape of Nanking. "We cannot overlook a propaganda film that portrays the Japanese as a brutal race," Mr. Nakayama said. "We cannot allow that for the sake of Japanese honour."
kamome wrote:Why is there such a resurgence of stories regarding revisionists in the J-government? It was always known that Japanese conservatives seek to deny or impugn evidence of the atrocities that their own government committed in WWII. I suppose this is linked to the US Congress's resolution on the issue?
gboothe wrote:Incidentally, the Japanese ships with support troops and equipment in route to the south (Port Moresby) for the invasion of the Australia, were destroyed when information on the ship movements was obtained in the Philippines by Dick Sakakida (a Nisei CIC spy in the Imperial Staff in Manila) and funnelled to the US Command through the PI underground.
amdg wrote:I didn't know that. Very cool indeed!
dimwit wrote:I love their sources of information -Japanese newspapers of the time and offical documents that were not burned at the end of the war.
Using such reliable sources I can affirm to you that the Japanese won the Battle of Midway sinking two American carriers while only losing one of their own. This was followed up two years later by a major victory for the Japanese at the Battle of the Philippines Sea in which he American fleet was destroyed.
Nothing compared to all the reports of decisive Nazi victories on the eastern front. Problem was that time passed these victories moved closer and closer to the heimatgboothe wrote:I think there were about five major battles in each one where the American fleet was totally destroyed. Americans most have had a lot of fleets in those days.
gboothe wrote:You might want to google Richard M. Sakakida (now deceased). I worked with Dick way back when. Here is what they read into the congressional record about him!
amdg wrote:Wow. I don't know what to say, other than that guy had balls of steel.
Mulboyne wrote:
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gboothe wrote:You might want to google Richard M. Sakakida (now deceased). I worked with Dick way back when. Here is what they read into the congressional record about him!
TFG wrote:Well, then. If we are playing the numbers game perhaps the world should ignore the handful of Japanese nationals kidnapped by North Korea.
Takechanpoo wrote:You should distinguish between whether Japan try to deny so-called "Nankin Masscre" or not and whether Japan try to justify aggression itself against China.
"We cannot overlook a propaganda film that portrays the Japanese as a brutal race," Mr. Nakayama said. "We cannot allow that for the sake of Japanese honour."
The Japanese military considered itself bound to the "divine" Emperor and was thus convinced of the uniqueness and supremacy of the Japanese race. Inspired by this conviction, it committed indescribable atrocities first in China and then throughout Southeast Asia. Across the region, Japanese soldiers were feared as "soldiers of the devil".
This film contains the admissions of a total of fourteen former soldiers of the imperial army. They are very different in terms of their background, education and profession. Their military ranks range from that of simple soldier to officer, from military doctor to military policeman. Today, half a century after the Second World War, the Japanese society has undoubtedly changed. However, it has yet to confront its own past, let alone investigate the war crimes it committed. Already two-thirds of the population belong to the post-war generation. The memories of the war will soon disappear from Japanese minds, and that before the issue of Japanese guilt has ever been properly settled.
"The victims of war often talk about their experiences, while the perpetrators remain silent. But it is from the words of the perpetrators in particular that we can gain important insight into human behavioural patterns in times of war. It is important at the present time to discover how normal people like our own grandfathers and fathers themselves became perpetrators and war criminals, and what they really did."
Takechanpoo wrote:Ex-J-army did atrocities not only in Nanjin but also all over China.
There was not masscre or holocaust but just atrocity in Nanjin.
Nariaki Nakayama, head of the group created to study World War II historical issues and education, said documents from the Japanese government's archives indicated that about 20,000 people were killed
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