So this topic has been mulled over before but never clarified.

I have heard that spouse visas are the exception and that you can keep them until expiry even after a divorce.

Anyone have concrete evidence to support this or to the contrary?

Thanks

momotobananaoishii wrote:So this topic has been mulled over before but never clarified.

I have heard that spouse visas are the exception and that you can keep them until expiry even after a divorce.

Anyone have concrete evidence to support this or to the contrary?

Thanks

This has been covered so many times, and each and every time the answer is exactly the same. The hard facts are that after divorce you DO NOT have the "official" right to keep your visa. The reality is that it is case-by-case and will depend on many factors, not the least of which is the individual officer who reviews your case if it is brought to the attention of immigration. Who would bring it to their attention? Well, if your ex wife hates your guts enough then she certainly could do this.

If you want better advice than this (which has been repeated over and over on all the threads so far) then I suggest speaking with an immigration lawyer. The lawyer will likely tell you the same thing, but you'll have the pleasure of paying for the advice.

ok but if my ex didn't say anything why would I end up at the immigration office in the first place?

And if they said my visa is over how long until you actually have to leave Japan? Case by case again I guess.

OT: standard Japanese travel visa for Canadians and many other foreigners is three months. Does that mean three per year or can you go to korea for two weeks then come back for another three months?

momotobananaoishii wrote:ok but if my ex didn't say anything why would I end up at the immigration office in the first place?

If you're worried about it talk to a lawyer.

momotobananaoishii wrote:And if they said my visa is over how long until you actually have to leave Japan? Case by case again I guess.

Case-by-case. It could be as short as a few days or as long as a 90 day tourist visa.

momotobananaoishii wrote:OT: standard Japanese travel visa for Canadians and many other foreigners is three months. Does that mean three per year or can you go to korea for two weeks then come back for another three months?

You can go to Korea for a few days and come back. However Japan may refuse you entry and send you back to Korea. Again, it is case-by-case and I was nearly denied entry into Japan this way once in 1996. I was actually taken to a small white room at KIX and questioned for about 30 minutes before they decided to let me in. In the end they only let me in as I had over US$5,000 in travelers cheques and a very good story about what I wanted to do in Japan.

FG Lurker is right, momotobananaoishii. The members here gave you some of their thoughts in this thread when you asked the same question. You are in a difficult spot but if you want greater certainty, I would take some of those views along to an immigration lawyer and see what advice you can get there.

You gotta watch out for that anonymous report-a-suspicious-gaijin MOJ website. Yer wifey or her supporters could easily make you the target of investigation. Don't antagonize - document.

Kept mine after divorcing my J hubby...

(Is this where I start ranting and comparing gaijin blokes and japanese blokes like the guys do about the girls? FFS...)

momotobananaoishii wrote:So this topic has been mulled over before but never clarified.

I have heard that spouse visas are the exception and that you can keep them until expiry even after a divorce.

Anyone have concrete evidence to support this or to the contrary?

Thanks

Dude, how dense are you? Get a fucking lawyer.

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Dude, how dense are you? Get a fucking lawyer.

Thanks for the great input mate. I don't need a lawyer dude. I don't have kids, I don't care whether or not the divorce goes through, I don't have any $$ in Japan, and the police don't fucking care about domestic disputes so why the fuck would I bother paying for advice when I don't need it yet? This is a free forum so I am free to ask as many free questions as I like to see what experiences different people have had. Are you so fucking dense to think that if I really needed a lawyer I wouldn't get one? I guess so.

Besides even if I needed a lawyer why the fuck wouldn't I ask questions on a forum where some members have been here for years and could potentially save me time which equals money at the lawyers office.

momotobananaoishii wrote:Thanks for the great input mate. I don't need a lawyer dude. I don't have kids, I don't care whether or not the divorce goes through, I don't have any $$ in Japan, and the police don't fucking care about domestic disputes so why the fuck would I bother paying for advice when I don't need it yet? This is a free forum so I am free to ask as many free questions as I like to see what experiences different people have had. Are you so fucking dense to think that if I really needed a lawyer I wouldn't get one? I guess so.

Besides even if I needed a lawyer why the fuck wouldn't I ask questions on a forum where some members have been here for years and could potentially save me time which equals money at the lawyers office.

I'm talking about an immigration lawyer you fucking moron. You don't rely on a free internet forum because we might not know what the fuck we're talking about.

sillygirl wrote:Kept mine after divorcing my J hubby...

(Is this where I start ranting and comparing gaijin blokes and japanese blokes like the guys do about the girls? FFS...)

No that's the other dog's breakfast of a post honey.

gomichild wrote:No that's the other dog's breakfast of a post honey.

Really? I get so confused.

Is there anyway we can stop the Bigdaikon type postings and stick to other rubbish?

Disclaimer: I am not some fat assed gaijin girl who couldn't pull in Japan - had no problems with either J or gaijin fellas....

sillygirl wrote:Really? I get so confused.

Is there anyway we can stop the Bigdaikon type postings and stick to other rubbish?

Disclaimer: I am not some fat assed gaijin girl who couldn't pull in Japan - had no problems with either J or gaijin fellas....

You had me at fat assed.

[quote="Samurai_Jerk"]You had me at fat assed. ]

Chuh! Slut...

OK, I'll restate what I posted about this somewhere else.

After the divvy, I went to Immigration loaded with proof that I have a job (not affliated with Eikaiwa...more on that later), and the dude at Immi told me to come back w/i a month of the actual VISA expiring (2 years from then)and I'd have to change back to a something or other VISA.
A friend of mine who worked for the dead rabbit got divorced, went to Immigration, and had to go back about 10-15 times before they would let him switch his VISA to continue his job for another 4 months until the company tanked.

Probably, when I go back to switch my VISA, I'll get the waterboarding treatment, but that was/is my story. It's arbitrary, but having your life in order (at least on paper) helps. A few tears about the heartbreak that you have just experienced and how you are striving to overcome it and be better after it might jerk a few tears loose also. Bring a good violinist with you:violin: but don't come off like a whiney be-yotch.

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I'm talking about an immigration lawyer you fucking moron. You don't rely on a free internet forum because we might not know what the fuck we're talking about.

Absolutely correct. The immigration issues can be complicated and if momo gets it wrong, his ass could be deported or thrown in jail. Momo, you can have an initial consultation with a real lawyer on the issue without paying for that time if you don't pursue the matter with him/her. Often, the consultation will give you enough information to know if you have a real legal issue that has to be addressed by a lawyer or if it is something you can manage on your own.

Momo, you are right that the information that is available on this forum is valuable because the members here are a rare collection of experienced Japan hands, but none of us has any kind of loyalty to you or feels an obligation to consider your issues with the type of rigor you should want from a dedicated professional. Take the time to look up a lawyer in Osaka and have that initial consultation. It should be someone who knows Japanese and Canadian immigration law. The Roppongi Bar Association, the Canadian Embassy and the ACCJ (or its Canadian equivalent) should all have lawyer referral lists. There probably is also an Osaka Bar Association for Japanese lawyers that has a lawyer referral list somewhere or at least an English consultation service. Check it out.

To the OP,
Relax.Yes, you can keep your spouse visa after your divorced until it expires so save your money on lawyer fee's. I've been though this and it can wear on the mind, so here is your information straight from Japanese immigrations mouth.

I hope that this helps and please pass it along:

Q18: If I get divorced with a Japanese citizen during my period of stay under a Spouse/Child of Japanese national visa will immigration revoke my status of residence?

A: Since the status of residence Spouse/Child of Japanese national is listed on Annexed table II of Japanese immigration control act,your status of residence WILL NOT be revoked even if you reside in Japan with such residence status and get divorced with your Japanese spouse during your period of stay.

It's found under the section:Residence procedeures for foreign nationals in the Q&A section.

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/index.html

If the link doesn't work, then type it in by hand.

SamuraiJerkoff... you're not getting it through your thick skull.

I don't consult because I don't really care. I am very curious but when it comes down to it I really don't care.

If I did, do you think I'd really on info from dickwads like you?

There are people here with enough concrete evidence (such as the post above), to give me a good idea of things. If and when I need an absolute opinion I'd then pay for a lawyer.

If I was in such a bind do you think I'd be sweaten bullets sittin at my computer waiting for an email from people at FK'd G instead of talking to my lawyer?

I haven't even been on here for a good while meanwhile you fucking live on this forum.

Get a life loser.

kamome wrote:Absolutely correct. The immigration issues can be complicated and if momo gets it wrong, his ass could be deported ...

and we certainly wouldn't want to see that happen to such a congenial bloke.

FG Lurker wrote:If you're worried about it talk to a lawyer.


Case-by-case. It could be as short as a few days or as long as a 90 day tourist visa.


You can go to Korea for a few days and come back. However Japan may refuse you entry and send you back to Korea. Again, it is case-by-case and I was nearly denied entry into Japan this way once in 1996. I was actually taken to a small white room at KIX and questioned for about 30 minutes before they decided to let me in. In the end they only let me in as I had over US$5,000 in travelers cheques and a very good story about what I wanted to do in Japan.

I have had an employee who was doing the Korea and back thing, BUT, when the Japanese immagration at the airport decided he was not allowed to come into country, they would NOT send him to Korea, but back to his home country. He was from Sweden (Swedish passport) so back to Sweden he had to go.