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Iraira wrote:... maybe the IOC's thinking is, "Like, whatever...."
DrP wrote:Say what!? Damn - I agree as well. This rule is obviously for shortening the game and not really playing out real ball. Though I'd contest where he gets the privs of calling it 'our sport' . As far as I know and recall -- baseball has been played a long time in the ol USA before it was adopted by J-Pan.
DrP wrote:Say what!? Damn - I agree as well. This rule is obviously for shortening the game and not really playing out real ball. Though I'd contest where he gets the privs of calling it 'our sport' . As far as I know and recall -- baseball has been played a long time in the ol USA before it was adopted by J-Pan.
AssKissinger wrote:I think when he says 'our' he means baseball players and fans in general not Japan.
To begin the 11th inning, representatives from each team will meet at home plate and will indicate (at the same time) to the home plate umpire where the team wishes to begin the batting order. That is, the teams have the option of beginning the 11th inning anywhere in the existing batting order that was in effect when the 10th inning ended. Note that this is not a new lineup (just potentially a different order), and it may very well be the same lineup that ended the 10th inning. The rationale for doing so is to ensure that both teams have an equal chance at having what they consider to be their best hitters and base runners in a position to score in the 11th inning.
For example, if the team decides to have the #1 hitter in the lineup hit first, then the #8 hitter will be placed at 2B and the #9 hitter will be placed at 1B. Furthermore, if the team decides to have the #3 hitter in the lineup hit first, then the #1 hitter would be at 2B and the #2 hitter would be at 1B.
Captain Japan wrote:It's not just two baserunners...
It sounds like the Onion wrote this.
Greji wrote:That's what it will probably turn out to be translated as when, or if they take any flak. But, Hoshino has at times on different programs been very vocal about the superiority of Japanese baseball. He was a real bitch on TV during the WBC tourney when Japan won!
AssKissinger wrote:I do think any MLB team would get creamed in a season of NPB.
Greji wrote:Where did this come from? The US doesn't send any of the front line MLB players to the Olympics and Wagakuni sends all of theirs and they still haven't won a gold medal.
The only tournament they have won is the intial WBC which although they played well, they had a lot of luck. The US still didn't send a frontline team. This year's team is all minor leaguers.
Based on these results and all the Nichibei series, I don't see your comparison unless you're trying to make Take feel good!
AssKissinger wrote:We had a bunch of MLB hotshots at the WBC. We use superstars from the NBA for the Dream Team, obviously. There's one way to tell who's best when it comes to sports and that's to play the games. We played, we lost, they're better. End of story. Marketing and paychecks don't make you a better athlete. Around the world from Croatia to China there are basketball leagues on par with or superior to the NBA. Even if we have the funds to recruit many top tier foreign players nothing changes. Real Madrid recruited the most famous high-profile superstars in the world. Still, they didn't just dominate everyone they played. Just the same as Europe always dismisses American soccer. No player in the world could just totally sweep up in MLS. I mean, it's like this: If you got a country where kids play certain sports from the get go all the flash in the world that another country let's loose doesn't take that from them.
That's all I was saying. Ichiro alone speaks for the talent that is around, but then look at Johjima and a lot of the recent J-star signings. Some of them are even struggling even at 3A. On the whole, I think the're quite a piece back from MLB level
AssKissinger wrote:I still say that even though those guys may not rise up to the bigs, if they play a game like The Mets vs The Carp or whatever The Carp is just as likely to come up victorious. That's what I believe. I don't know what it is. But whatever it takes is to get to the point where you make the most money it's not always the same thing that let's you win games. That's what has been proven by the WBC and the limitations of the Dream Team.
AssKissinger wrote:You know, since both teams are going to be given the same advantage... ok I'm no mathematician but... wouldn't that be more likely to just create higher scoring games not shorter ones?
Mulboyne wrote:What would more likely drag out a game is a series of scoreless innings. The new rule makes it easier for both sides to score but teams rarely score evenly in succession so one team ought to come out on top quickly in extra innings play.
AssKissinger wrote:I still say that even though those guys may not rise up to the bigs, if they play a game like The Mets vs The Carp or whatever The Carp is just as likely to come up victorious. That's what I believe. I don't know what it is. But whatever it takes is to get to the point where you make the most money it's not always the same thing that let's you win games. That's what has been proven by the WBC and the limitations of the Dream Team.
Keep in mind AK that in the WBC, the best players on every nation's team were major league players. The US team was not synonomous with an All Star MLB team. On the other hand, the Japan team was the NPB All Stars plus a few MLB players. (And the same goes for international basketball and the NBA and international hockey and the NHL, in general, not with respect to Japan).
But one thing is true in MLB, teams that rarely walk and play small ball do not fare too well against teams that make pitchers throw strikes and play for the big inning ("Pitching, defense, and 3-run homers win ball games," as Earl Weaver used to say). And, as a rule, NPB teams rarely walk and like to play small ball.
What would more likely drag out a game is a series of scoreless innings. The new rule makes it easier for both sides to score but teams rarely score evenly in succession so one team ought to come out on top quickly in extra innings play.
AssKissinger wrote:Well, they eat away at you with that shit though. Especially combined with really solid fielding. I can't really say.
Gilligan wrote:
But for me, it's hard not to see small ball as the manifestation of an ego maniacal manager (a la Ochiai or Ozzie Guillen) trying to steal the limelight away from the guys on the field trying to make the plays.
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