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kamome wrote:I think that three "tests" are not enough to make a blanket statement about how courteous a city is. It's a survey based purely on anecdotal evidence (which is why it's such good fodder for discussion).
GomiGirl wrote: but then blowing ones nose in Japan is also bad mannered.
gboothe wrote:Nah, no problem. Just ask for an oshibori and honk out a big one (you might, however, wish to consider this technique for a mise for which you are not planing a return visit)!
GomiGirl wrote:The opening door thing is very much a western standard. My cousin has just arrived and he is delighting me by always opening doors etc. I had forgotten how nice it was as it is just not a Japanese cultural curtesy.
AssKissinger wrote:Japanese are rude as fuck to people they don't know. Who cares if someone's having a heart attck inside the ambulance? I gotta make it through the intersection! I lived in Brookyln in the early '90's and I think New Yorkers are ruder when they try to be but in Tokyo they don't have to try. Japanese have to try to be polite. Everything is a conscious effort instead of just being genuinely friendly.
Gilligan wrote:It's one thing to compare the politeness of residents of cities within a given culture because they all share cultural norms of politeness. But as GomiGirl and I have stated it's a little silly to compare across cultures. Things that are rude in one culture -- not holding a door open, stepping on someone's foot without apologizing, blowing one's nose in public, pouring one's one beer -- wouldn't even register on the politeness scale in another. It's the difference between what anthropologists would refer to as an emic and an etic perspective of a culture. An emic description is a description of a culture from the perspective of a member of that culture and an etic description is a description of that culture from a non-member.
Jack wrote:Bottom line is Japanese people are polite and kind
Jack wrote:Your explanation is fine and dandy but you are missing the point.
kamome wrote:Gilligan: I live in NY and people will always give me directions without a problem (and I ask frequently because I'm still fairly new to the city). Don't know why you had a different experience.
P.S. I may live in NY, but I hate the Yankees. Go Red Sox!
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