Samurai_Jerk wrote:I find Aso's comments outrageous. Everyone knows the buraku aren't people.
i just read the article. not sure which is sadder - the comment made or the fact that no one was at all surprised by it.
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Samurai_Jerk wrote:I find Aso's comments outrageous. Everyone knows the buraku aren't people.
james wrote:i just read the article. not sure which is sadder - the comment made or the fact that no one was at all surprised by it.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:How about the fact that they felt there was no need to make an issue out of it because they never figured the public would find out. That's Japanese shame culture at work, baby. It ain't wrong if no body loses face.
I wonder how the average Japanese person really feels about the burakumin.
james wrote:agreed completely. i have hope that the whole concept of the buraku caste will die off when these fossils currently at the helm of the nihon-maru finally kick off.
TennoChinko wrote:If you do a bit of research on the subject, you'll discover there is a significant & influential part of the burakumin community leadership - the Buraku Liberation League in particular - who have gone out of their way to keep the identity of burakumin and burakumin neighborhoods out in the open. That ensures they retain all the government subsidies and affirmative action programs within municipal civil service. Somewhat counter-intuitive and short-sighted in principal but Hell... follow the money.
TennoChinko wrote:I really don't think the "I'm Eta-Hinin! I'll say it loudly & proudly" approach would work as it might in the US and I don't think it would really help those Japanese trying to succeed in mainstream society.
GomiGirl wrote:What always surprises me about this issue is that it is not a racial discrimination. It is a social one and a perceived one based on the jobs that a certain community were involved in many moons ago - jobs that were considered "unclean". It seems that some people will find any excuse to keep another person down.
Gilligan wrote:Sadly discrimination based on social issues is a practice that is hardly limited. It spans most of recorded history and has been noted in most (if not all) regions of the world.
Gilligan wrote:It is even sadder that it persists to such an extent in a country that is meant to be representative of a modern society.
Yokohammer wrote:Sounds like you're saying that burakumin descendants should be ashamed of and hide their past.
Correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but if that's what you are saying I can't agree. At all.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:How about the fact that they felt there was no need to make an issue out of it because they never figured the public would find out. That's Japanese shame culture at work, baby. It ain't wrong if no body loses face.
I wonder how the average Japanese person really feels about the burakumin.
TennoChinko wrote:Neither. If we agree that the concept of caste ought be irrelevant and die a natural death, then it makes no sense to encourage burakumin down the 'say it loudly & proudly' path.
Jadic wrote:Natural selection is harsh. The strong/intelligent/lucky accomplish great feats and get to go down in history as the good guys. The weak get destroyed/enslaved/forgotten and thats just the reality of it. If buraku were the ones who conquered the other tribe families back in the day theyd be calling those in power now buraku and thinking lowly of them. Why dont we start welfare programs for all the crops with genetic imperfections. We can breed all the corn that gets mites cause ti cant do it itself. Then we'll take all the conifers that cant survive winter and put them inside for that part of the year. Fuck Im glad people with these mentalities never amount to anything. Why the hell do you need to defend someone else? Why are 99 percent of people who cry racism not even a member of the race this supposed "racism" is happening to? Fuck its nature we live we strive for greatness and we die. Im broke and living in a fucking shithole. Why dont you all send me some cash? Im getting shit for this or that and no ones defending me. Why? Cause its given Im a fucking man (not to be sexist its just the only word I could use for this sentence to express what Im saying) who others feel should be able to fend for myself. I cant even get started on how fucking annoying all these anti racism people are. Its a hard world Ive had guns knives and fists used against me several times. Maybe if some of you soft "the world isnt fair" fuckers went through some of that shit yourselves you wouldnt be so naive.
While the term has been applied to the claim that Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection can be used to understand the social endurance of a nation or country, social Darwinism commonly refers to ideas that predate Darwin's publication of On the Origin of Species. Others whose ideas are given the label include the 18th century clergyman Thomas Malthus, and Darwin's cousin Francis Galton who founded eugenics towards the end of the 19th century.
Gilligan wrote:Like I said, you're an idiot.
Let's be real, if natural selection applied to humans, we wouldn't be having this discussion because you would never have been born.
hundefar wrote:Social Darwinism is based on the fallacious view that natural equals good, or in other words, what is, ought to be. It is what educated people call sloppy thinking. Darwin himself was not a social darwinist, though he was a friend of Herbert Spencer, who was the most important social darwinist thinker.
Even the most hardcore darwinists, such as Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett and Steven Pinker rejects this kind of thinking today..why? BECAUSE ANY IDIOT CAN SEE THAT IT DOESN'T FOLLOW THAT JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENS IN NATURE IT IS GOOD. Sorry for the caps, but I hate stupidity. .
Jadic wrote:Maybe it doesnt make it good to our social perception of morality..... unless you subscribe to some kinda religion or social prejudice, there really is no good. Its a word to describe "it creates a pleasant chemical reaction in the brain of the majority." Yay I can believe in equality and feel good. Or I can believe in what is evident and see life sucks and unless you fight viscously for a place at the top youll never get their.
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