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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:39 am

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Postby bolt_krank » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:38 am

Somehow I don't think an Arab Prince would be working in Japan just to get some child allowance money....
I can see the point he's trying to make, but the way he phrases it makes him seem quite unintelligent.
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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:40 am

Mulboyne wrote:The Sankei concurs that foreign polygamy could become a drain on Japan's finances

I can't determine whether this is bs or a major concern for the government. Neither would surprise me.

bolt krank wrote: but the way he phrases it makes him seem quite unintelligent.

Don't you mean it reveals that he is quite unintelligent?
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Postby nottu » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:18 am

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Postby BO-SENSEI » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:47 am

nottu wrote:?????????
You got to lay off the vodka.

1.) I drink rum.
2.) No way, it keeps me complacent.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:42 pm

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Tamura's Arab prince comment is at the 7:06 mark. If you are really interested, there are 4 earlier videos in the series showing his complaints in full. I can't help thinking he looks like he should be running a hostess bar somewhere.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:07 pm

Mulboyne wrote:[YT]xXkXw8NVyfI[/YT]

Tamura's Arab prince comment is at the 7:06 mark. If you are really interested, there are 4 earlier videos in the series showing his complaints in full. I can't help thinking he looks like he should be running a hostess bar somewhere.


Tamura didn't need to create a ridiculous strawman - there's a very real negative example to be found in Londonistan: every Tariq and Farooq marries a cousin in Dhaka or Islamabad and brings her back to Blighty, where they proceed to have large numbers of genetic-anomaly-afflicted offspring. A real Appalachia-on-the-Thames:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm
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Postby nottu » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:34 pm

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Postby Catoneinutica » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:09 pm

nottu wrote:and California


Inbreeding is rampant among certain groups in California? The number of people receiving public assistance is over 30% in some counties, that's true. And while London has morphed, hideously, into Londonistan only over the last decade or two, LA is and always has been The Capital of the Third World. :cheers:
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Postby Mulboyne » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:31 am

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TV show horrified that Nepalese man qualifies for child allowance for his 4 kids.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:34 pm

What is it about this cuntry that they get so up in arms about what is a trivial sum when compared with the enormous amount of debt it is racking up to maintain its bloated and irrelevant bureaucracy and industry?
Why does this cuntry always go for the easy targets instead of dealing with the real issues?
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Postby Ganma » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:49 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:What is it about this cuntry that they get so up in arms about what is a trivial sum when compared with the enormous amount of debt it is racking up to maintain its bloated and irrelevant bureaucracy and industry?
Why does this cuntry always go for the easy targets instead of dealing with the real issues?

TV ratings are dropping. TV budgets are gone. Sensationalism is all that's left
. The same with the newspapers.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:40 am

Someone on 2ch reported that a ward office in Kawasaki was overrun with foreigners, mainly from Asia, who were all applying for the new allowance when it came into effect at the beginning of the month. The poster painted a picture of people with boxes of supporting documents, so numerous that they had to be herded into a separate room. The idea that nearly 600 applications were approved that day in Kawasaki quickly made the rounds.

Cooler heads have since prevailed. A check with the ward office has revealed that there was no flood of inquiries or a huge number of new approvals. A staffer pointed out that most children are already registered with the ward to qualify for existing benefits so there would be no need for foreign residents to turn up en masse.

While most seem to realize now that the original report was unfounded scaremongering, critics of the new system say it's too early to properly judge whether Japan stands to see a net loss of tax revenue overseas because unscrupulous deals involving illegal adoption have yet to come to light.

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Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:19 am

Anybody who has even once dealt with a ward office in Japan would know that 2ch report was pure bs...they'd be lucky to process six people on any given day for any given routine matter.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:30 pm

Mainichi: Gov't gets tough on allowances for foreigners who claim to have children in home countries
The Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry has tightened conditions for paying child-care allowances to foreigners who reside in Japan and claim to have children in their home countries, ministry officials said. The move is aimed at preventing foreign residents from illicitly receiving expensive allowances by falsely adopting children in their home countries or using other tricks to deceive Japanese authorities. The ministry has notified local governments across the country of its decision. Before providing child-care allowances, local governments are required by the ministry to confirm that such recipients meet their children in their home countries at least twice a year by checking their passports, and make sure that they send money to their children at least once every four months.

The ministry took the measure out of fear that a large number of foreigners would falsely adopt children in their home countries for the sole purpose of illegally receiving child-care allowances in Japan. The number of foreign residents' children who receive child allowances while living in their home countries remains unclear, according to the ministry. Some local governments have expressed concern that the measure would increase their workload.
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Postby Ketou » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:27 pm

Of course it will increase their workload, but all they need to do is hire more staff. They can sit with the other computer-less drones in the brand new multibillion yen complex they have to shuffle paper in.
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Postby Ganma » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:31 pm

Mulboyne wrote:The ministry took the measure out of fear that a large number of foreigners would falsely adopt children in their home countries for the sole purpose of illegally receiving child-care allowances in Japan.

Talk about unfounded paranoia. Where are these large numbers of foreigners living in Japan? Last time I checked it was less than 1% of the population. :rolleyes:
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:02 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Mainichi: Gov't gets tough on allowances for foreigners who claim to have children in home countries

What if the kids come to Japan twice a year to visit the parent (might be cheaper than using JAL)...then what, you don't qualify?
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Postby FG Lurker » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:09 pm

This whole idea is really fucked up (surprise surprise).

I can see two types of people who will apply for these sorts of subsidies:

1) The majority who really have kids back home and qualify for the subsidy.

2) The minority who want to scam the system.

These changes seriously fuck over the majority of people because nearly no one can get the time off (or afford the cost!) to fly home twice a year.

However for the minority who want to scam the system these changes don't matter. They will simply "adopt" a few more kids to increase the payments they get to cover the cost of flying home twice a year.

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Postby nottu » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:52 pm

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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:58 am

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Postby Yokohammer » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:14 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Yesterday I received a fear-mongering pamphlet in my mailbox...

Was it properly printed, or just a photocopied thing?
Were there names and phone numbers to contact, or was it anonymous?

I've seen a couple of these things in the past (one a "we must drive all black people from our neighborhood because they're criminals and are corrupting our children" rant, complete with a really offensive sambo-style caricature), but they were cheapo photocopy jobs obviously done by someone with a chip on his or her shoulder.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:00 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Was it properly printed, or just a photocopied thing?
Were there names and phone numbers to contact, or was it anonymous?

I've seen a couple of these things in the past (one a "we must drive all black people from our neighborhood because they're criminals and are corrupting our children" rant, complete with a really offensive sambo-style caricature), but they were cheapo photocopy jobs obviously done by someone with a chip on his or her shoulder.


No contact numbers, but a professional-enough looking pamphlet.
In all seriousness, there are some legitimate gripes about this payout in terms of what foreigners get. But a pamphlet like this being handed out is another sign to me of the increasing strength of nationalism and anti-foreigner sentiment I've noticed popping up over the past few years (and -- to the chagrin of BO-SENSEI, I'm sure -- my belief is that it is spearheaded by the young as opposed to the fogies who are the same old corrupt bogies that run most countries).
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Postby Number11 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:35 pm

The same sort of things are likely even more prevalent in other countries. Hell, they even have people hosting TV shows nightly with more vicious attacks and fear mongering against heathen foreign invaders. Not that it is good or a thing to aspire to, but fear mongering is a career path now for some people.
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Postby Ganma » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:47 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote: I'm sure -- my belief is that it is spearheaded by the young as opposed to the fogies who are the same old corrupt bogies that run most countries).


No doubt spearheaded by Hikikomori's sitting in their room with nothing better to do ... because they're too afraid to go outside in case they bump into a foreigner.

Personally, I've never come across hateful youth and don't consider them a serious threat. Discrimination backed by those in power here - right wing politicians, bureaucrats, the NPA - is far more dangerous. It's the old fogies in power who get the ball rolling, putting ideas into young peoples heads - scapegoating to divert attention from their own incompetence.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:13 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:...a pamphlet like this being handed out is another sign to me of the increasing strength of nationalism and anti-foreigner sentiment I've noticed popping up over the past few years...

I always found the "rising nationalism" claims in the overseas press - which can be roughly dated back to Koizumi's first Yasukuni visits - to be overplayed. However, since the LDP lost power, a number of conservative voices appear to be off the leash. As Number 11 says, fear-mongering is not a new tactic in the world but conservatives voices in Japan do seem to be enjoying the political capital they can get from inventing bogeymen. When some of these guys were in government, they couldn't make these claims so freely because they were restrained by the need to come up with workable economic policies, introduce social legislation and maintain diplomatic relations.
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Postby Yokohammer » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:54 pm

Mulboyne wrote:I always found the "rising nationalism" claims in the overseas press - which can be roughly dated back to Koizumi's first Yasukuni visits - to be overplayed. However, since the LDP lost power, a number of conservative voices appear to be off the leash. As Number 11 says, fear-mongering is not a new tactic in the world but conservatives voives in Japan do seem to be enjoying the political capital they can get from inventing bogeymen. When some of these guys were in government, they couldn't make these claims so freely because they were restrained by the need to come up with workable economic policies, introduce social legislation and maintain diplomatic relations.

I actually think there is a rising current of nationalism going on, but I don't think it's a population-wide trend. As you imply, the hard-liners are gaining a voice and drawing a crowd. After a long period of sitting on the sidelines, Japan is beginning to to regain its national pride and confidence. Part of it is probably also a reaction to other asian nations dancing in what was once Japan's spotlight. Regaining confidence is fine as long as it's kept in perspective, but this type of resurgence usually starts with an overreaction that swings way too far to the right. I think that's what we're seeing, and that we're going to see more of it for a while. It's probably just part of the "adjustment" process. At the same time I'm pretty sure we'll see some ugly incidents, but those will function as wake-up calls that will serve to push things back toward a more reasonable groove.

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Postby Ganma » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:55 pm

Yokohammer wrote:I actually think there is a rising current of nationalism going on, but I don't think it's a population-wide trend. As you imply, the hard-liners are gaining a voice and drawing a crowd. After a long period of sitting on the sidelines, Japan is beginning to to regain its national pride and confidence. Part of it is probably also a reaction to other asian nations dancing in what was once Japan's spotlight. Regaining confidence is fine as long as it's kept in perspective, but this type of resurgence usually starts with an overreaction that swings way too far to the right. I think that's what we're seeing, and that we're going to see more of it for a while. It's probably just part of the "adjustment" process. At the same time I'm pretty sure we'll see some ugly incidents, but those will function as wake-up calls that will serve to push things back toward a more reasonable groove.

Just my personal analysis, but that's my theory and I'm stickin' to it!
(Until I change my mind again.)

Let's just hope we're not seeing a Japanese version of Weimar Republic syndrome.
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