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J-Pop will eat itself and a defence of Yoko Ono

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J-Pop will eat itself and a defence of Yoko Ono

Postby Mulboyne » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:13 pm

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Postby Charles » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:40 pm

I won't defend Ono as a musician, but as an artist, she has my respect. Ono was one of the most prominent Arte Povera/Fluxus members, and brought the movement to Japan. One of my favorite "paintings" of all time is Ono's "Painting To Hammer A Nail"

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Ono put up a piece of wood with a hammer hanging from a chain, and on the ground was a large bucket of nails. Viewers were invited to hammer nails into the wood in any way they desired. This picture is the original version, but the first time I saw it, it was more recent version, a piece of plywood 4x8 feet inset into a blackboard cart on wheels. It blew me away. I vigorously hammered a couple of nails into it at random locations.

This may not seem like anything revolutionary, but in the 1960s, conceptual art was completely new and shocking, and performance art was in its infancy. Ono shaped a radical shift in opinion about art amongst both critics and artists worldwide, yet her influence is rarely acknowledged today.
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Postby Andocrates » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:41 pm

She is an artist, the fact is we are still talking about her proves that. If her artistry was only about how bad she was that's still art.

Maybe you respond she's "coasting on John Lennon's coat-tails." Does anyone here know the name of George Harrison's wife?

She is an interesting lady.
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Yoko Ono doesn't suck.

Postby djgizmoe » Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:03 pm

Andocrates wrote:She is an artist, the fact is we are still talking about her proves that. If her artistry was only about how bad she was that's still art.
Maybe you respond she's "coasting on John Lennon's coat-tails." Does anyone here know the name of George Harrison's wife?
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Agreed. And I must admit I like a some of her music as well (certainly prefiguring a lot of the avante-garde to come (see Laurie Anderson, Diamanda Galas)), especially the stuff she did with Sean in the mid-90's...

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Re: Yoko Ono doesn't suck.

Postby maraboutslim » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:29 pm

djgizmoe wrote:And I must admit I like a some of her music as well (certainly prefiguring a lot of the avante-garde to come (see Laurie Anderson, Diamanda Galas)), especially the stuff she did with Sean in the mid-90's..



the way your sentence reads it seems like you are saying that the stuff she did in the 90s prefigured anderson and galas and that's clearly not the case since i've been listening to those two since the 80s. maybe just a sentence structure problem...did you mean to say that you like some of her music, especially the stuff from the mid-90s, and that you also like some of her much-earlier music that possibly prefigured stuff like laurie anderson and dimanda galas?
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Re: Yoko Ono doesn't suck.

Postby djgizmoe » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:38 pm

maraboutslim wrote:
djgizmoe wrote:And I must admit I like a some of her music as well (certainly prefiguring a lot of the avante-garde to come (see Laurie Anderson, Diamanda Galas)), especially the stuff she did with Sean in the mid-90's..


the way your sentence reads it seems like you are saying that the stuff she did in the 90s prefigured anderson and galas and that's clearly not the case since i've been listening to those two since the 80s. maybe just a sentence structure problem...did you mean to say that you like some of her music, especially the stuff from the mid-90s, and that you also like some of her much-earlier music that possibly prefigured stuff like laurie anderson and dimanda galas?


Yes, grammar police. I should have been more clear (though you seem to have gotten the point). Her early 70's stuff prefigured the avante-garde of the late 70's and 80's, though I prefer the stuff she did with Ima (her band that included Sean Lennon) in the 90's, especially the Rising Remixes.

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Postby AssKissinger » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:19 pm

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Yoko wrote:Directing her words to "people who have lost loved ones without cause," to "the soldiers of all countries and of all centuries," to civilians who were injured or killed and to "people who have been abused or tortured," Ono wrote "Know that your loss is our loss ... Know that the burden is ours," and asked "Forgive us."
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Anyone know where I can get tickets?

Postby Iraira » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:17 am

LONDON, England (AP) -- Abstract paintings, an installation made of trash and a video of dancing Palestinians were among the works vying Monday for the Turner Prize, Britain's highest-profile -- and most controversial -- arts award.

The £25,000 ($49,000) prize was to be presented by Yoko Ono during a ceremony at London's Tate Britain gallery.

This year's eclectic shortlist is typical of a prize that has in the past honored "Brit Art" upstarts such as transvestite potter Grayson Perry, dung-daubing painter Chris Ofili and shark pickler Damien Hirst.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/12/04/turner.prize.ap/index.html
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