WTF!? '24-Hour Tokyo Subway Planned'

[Taro Toporific]

Behind the fucked Nikkei paywall...

April 16, 2013
03:47 - 24-Hour Tokyo Subway Planned Under Abenomics Initiative
PW: http://t.co/vBgrRZNzj2

Damn, whatz next? Underground utility lines, housing insulation, bike lanes... ???

Missed The Last Train by jeroen020, on Flickr

[GomiGirl]

Personally I think that would be awesome. 24 hour city and all that.

On an economic level, surely a network of night-buses (aka London style) would be cheaper and easier to implement in the immediate term. But then perhaps the point of Abenomics is just to see how much money can be printed and spent.

The Taxi, Manga cafe, Business Hotel industries are not going to like this.

[wagyl]

There are still plenty of people who live outside the area serviced by the Metro.

This may be old news to everyone else but I didn't realise it until I researched it just then: I was thinking "How can they compel a private company to provide that standard of service?" It turns out that Tokyo Metro is 53.42% owned by the Ministry of Finance, 46.58% owned by Tokyo Metropolitan Government.　The old "Eidan" name should have given me a clue though.

Might this also be linked to ideas about making Haneda 24 hour as well?
I stole that little bit of speculation from the start of what is turning out to be an interesting article going into the history of Tokyo rail transport. http://www.nikkeibp.co.jp/style/biz/inose/070821_4th/ (Japanese) Highlights include comments that the Yamanote line only started ring service after the 1923 earthquake. Prior to the development of the area to rehouse those displaced in the tragedy, the western half had just been a bypass route through fields.

[gaijinpunch]

Makes too much sense. Will never happen.

If they did want to make it work, there's one way to do it: As taxi drivers die (or even retire), just quit renewing their licenses under someone else's name. Too many as it is. If they could ditch 300-500 a year, it could work in a few years. Taxi's still make dough... the city doesn't look like a fuck tard for not offering 24 hour commuting.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Great. No more chicks using shuden as an excuse to escape before I can ply them with enough alcohol to sleep with me.

There are still plenty of people who live outside the area serviced by the Metro.

This may be old news to everyone else but I didn't realise it until I researched it just then: I was thinking "How can they compel a private company to provide that standard of service?" It turns out that Tokyo Metro is 53.42% owned by the Ministry of Finance, 46.58% owned by Tokyo Metropolitan Government.　The old "Eidan" name should have given me a clue though.

It seems they're talking about making the Toei Line 24 hours not the Metro. Toei is 100% owned by the Tokyo Metro Government.

[gaijinpunch]

I wonder what old fart is about to not get a shit load of kick backs from his high school buddy.

[wagyl]

Toei is 100% owned by the Tokyo Metro Government.

and 100% useless, in that most of the time it doesn't go places you want to go, and when it does, it costs more than the alternatives.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Toei is 100% owned by the Tokyo Metro Government.

and 100% useless, in that most of the time it doesn't go places you want to go.

That really depends on where you live, work, and play. I use Toei daily and hardly ever use Metro.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Toei is 100% owned by the Tokyo Metro Government.

and 100% useless, in that most of the time it doesn't go places you want to go, and when it does, it costs more than the alternatives.

The Oedo Line is pretty good, essentially a kind of Yamanote Line albeit so close to the center of the earth I keep seeing "AS ->" signs everywhere and expect to see Jules Verne pop up and exclaim "foux de fa fa, I am the king of the divan...." or some other rambling in that Galling language of his.

[Taro Toporific]

It seems they're talking about making the Toei Line 24 hours not the Metro. Toei is 100% owned by the Tokyo Metro Government.

Now there are a bunch of Japanese news reports about it.

News i - TBS.jpg

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http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/7595822/

...the plan to begin operating 24 hours a day on routes connecting Shibuya and Roppongi. The starting time is "about Christmas."

[Samurai_Jerk]

It seems they're talking about making the Toei Line 24 hours not the Metro. Toei is 100% owned by the Tokyo Metro Government.

Now there are a bunch of Japanese news reports about it.

News i - TBS.jpg

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http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/7595822/

...the plan to begin operating 24 hours a day on routes connecting Shibuya and Roppongi. The starting time is "about Christmas."

So they want to combine he Toei and Metro systems and have the trains run 24 hours? Fuckin' schweet. I'll believe it when I see it though.

[Taro Toporific]

They want to combine the Toei and Metro systems and have the trains run 24 hours? Fuckin' schweet. I'll believe it when I see it though.

NKH 7pm News tonight directly linked this proposal for the 24-hour operation of the city subway lines and buses with Tokyo's Olympic bid. So ka.

Tokyo's 24-hour service on Toei subway and bus lines beginning around Christmas
RocketNews24.com | 2013/04/16 (Japanese edition)
..."Stop it! The death from overwork will be increased."...
...Some people are glad, some people are anxious.
In addition, there are many people who are worried that they no longer will be able to get away from forced work and drinking with the excuse, "it's the last train." With 24-hour operation of the city subway lines and buses, how our lives would be changed. Great expectations.

Inose eyes 24-hour bus service
The Japan Times | 2013/04/16
Tokyo Gov. Naoki Inose expressed his hope Monday in New York to start a 24-hour bus service between Shibuya and Roppongi ( ) by the end of this year, a Tokyo Metropolitan Government official said.
Inose was referring to a proposal by private-sector members of the central government’s Industrial Competitiveness Council for designating special regulatory reform zones.
The proposal also recommends that the metropolitan government promote 24-hour service on lines operated by Toei Subway.
But Inose indicated that 24-hour subway services would be difficult to accomplish in the immediate future, the official said.
The council has also proposed that the metropolitan government approve medical practices for holders of foreign medical licenses and provide foreign-language emergency medical services in Tokyo.
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[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Ssssssss.....(before you adjust the volume, allow me to inform you that this is the sound of air being sucked through teeth <although it could be noiseless flatulence, too.>)

[Coligny]

The council has also proposed that the metropolitan government approve medical practices for holders of foreign medical licenses and provide foreign-language emergency medical services in Tokyo.
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real doctors !?

in my japan !?

unpossibul...

[Samurai_Jerk]

The more info that comes out about this 24 hour subway thing the less likely it seems to happen. Wow, a test run of a 24-hour bus between Shibuya and Roppongi. That sounds like it'll be a big help

I wish they would at least run the trains all night on Fridays and Saturdays.

[wagyl]

The more info that comes out about this 24 hour subway thing the less likely it seems to happen.

I agree.

Wow, a test run of a 24-hour bus between Shibuya and Roppongi. That sounds like it'll be a big help

Roppongi to Shibuya is walking distance. Even a drunk Kusanagi can almost do it and almost keep his clothes on. Not to mention what you are meant to do when you arrive at Shibuya at 2:30 a.m.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Wow, a test run of a 24-hour bus between Shibuya and Roppongi. That sounds like it'll be a big help

Roppongi to Shibuya is walking distance. Even a drunk Kusanagi can almost do it and almost keep his clothes on. Not to mention what you are meant to do when you arrive at Shibuya at 2:30 a.m.

On the plus side, that'll probably be a pretty fucking fun bus ride at two in the morning.

[yanpa]

Roppongi to Shibuya is walking distance. Even a drunk Kusanagi can almost do it and almost keep his clothes on. Not to mention what you are meant to do when you arrive at Shibuya at 2:30 a.m.

Take a well-deserved rest at one of the many establishments on Dogenzaka?

[Samurai_Jerk]

Roppongi to Shibuya is walking distance. Even a drunk Kusanagi can almost do it and almost keep his clothes on. Not to mention what you are meant to do when you arrive at Shibuya at 2:30 a.m.

Take a well-deserved rest at one of the many establishments on Dogenzaka?

A fashionable rest for your health?

[IparryU]

Wow, a test run of a 24-hour bus between Shibuya and Roppongi. That sounds like it'll be a big help

Roppongi to Shibuya is walking distance. Even a drunk Kusanagi can almost do it and almost keep his clothes on. Not to mention what you are meant to do when you arrive at Shibuya at 2:30 a.m.

On the plus side, that'll probably be a pretty fucking fun bus ride at two in the morning.

+1

[Samurai_Jerk]

Wow, a test run of a 24-hour bus between Shibuya and Roppongi. That sounds like it'll be a big help

Roppongi to Shibuya is walking distance. Even a drunk Kusanagi can almost do it and almost keep his clothes on. Not to mention what you are meant to do when you arrive at Shibuya at 2:30 a.m.

On the plus side, that'll probably be a pretty fucking fun bus ride at two in the morning.

+1

My prediction is they'll get shitloads of drunk gaijin using the route and decide that 24-hour buses are too dangerous and the plan will be scrapped.

[wagyl]

Roppongi to Shibuya is walking distance. Even a drunk Kusanagi can almost do it and almost keep his clothes on. Not to mention what you are meant to do when you arrive at Shibuya at 2:30 a.m.

Take a well-deserved rest at one of the many establishments on Dogenzaka?

A fashionable rest for your health?

That thought did cross my mind, but I also think that your lady friend (or your bloke mate, or your trannie companion, or your goat... we are an inclusive community here at FG) will want to see that you are taxi material, not a walker nor a busser.

On the plus side, that'll probably be a pretty fucking fun bus ride at two in the morning.

+1

My prediction is they'll get shitloads of drunk gaijin using the route and decide that 24-hour buses are too dangerous and the plan will be scrapped.

My prediction is that for the full nights service on the full two months of the trial, they will get a grand total of three drunk gaijin using the route and decide that 24-hour buses do not deserve funding and the plan will be scrapped.

[Big Booger]

I don't know, I think maybe the 24 hour thing is good... apart from all the homeless that might hop on the loop line and ride and ride and ride while snoozing on the comfortable bench seats!

[J.A.F.O]

Reminds me of the Clive Barker book

[Coligny]

I sort of loved that movie... a bit letdown by the underepresentation of the creatures...

[Coligny]

I don't know, I think maybe the 24 hour thing is good... apart from all the homeless that might hop on the loop line and ride and ride and ride while snoozing on the comfortable bench seats!

Hobos are people too... In Saigon the central bus station is used as makeshift homeless shelter at night. It's a bit weird at first and not really usefull since temperatur never drop below 20 at night all year round...

[J.A.F.O]

Cool I am half way through the book right now. Glad you have a positive review of the movie, I'll watch it when I'm done.

[Taro Toporific]

{Fucked-in-the-head} Majority oppose 24 hour buses and trains
whatjapanthinks.com | by Ken Y-N | April 23, 2013
...one major negative issue is that currently the last train home is often the only excuse employees have for leaving work (labour protection laws are poorly enforced, and the pressure from societal norms means a lot of unpaid overtime is worked) or indeed obligatory after-work drinkies, so removing the final escape route could make the average employees lot much worse.
So, with that in mind, Yahoo! conducted an open news poll asking is 24 hour city buses and underground necessary? At the time of writing, seven days into an ten-day poll, 41,587 people have voted. 22% say both are needed, 5% say buses only, and 17% underground only. However, these three are outweighed by the noes to both, with 58% saying that both forms of round-the-clock public transport are not necessary.
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[matsuki]

{Fucked-in-the-head} Majority oppose 24 hour buses and trains
whatjapanthinks.com | by Ken Y-N | April 23, 2013
...one major negative issue is that currently the last train home is often the only excuse employees have for leaving work (labour protection laws are poorly enforced, and the pressure from societal norms means a lot of unpaid overtime is worked) or indeed obligatory after-work drinkies, so removing the final escape route could make the average employees lot much worse.
So, with that in mind, Yahoo! conducted an open news poll asking is 24 hour city buses and underground necessary? At the time of writing, seven days into an ten-day poll, 41,587 people have voted. 22% say both are needed, 5% say buses only, and 17% underground only. However, these three are outweighed by the noes to both, with 58% saying that both forms of round-the-clock public transport are not necessary.
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Enforce labor protections laws that are already in place?

[Samurai_Jerk]

{Fucked-in-the-head} Majority oppose 24 hour buses and trains
whatjapanthinks.com | by Ken Y-N | April 23, 2013
...one major negative issue is that currently the last train home is often the only excuse employees have for leaving work (labour protection laws are poorly enforced, and the pressure from societal norms means a lot of unpaid overtime is worked) or indeed obligatory after-work drinkies, so removing the final escape route could make the average employees lot much worse.
So, with that in mind, Yahoo! conducted an open news poll asking is 24 hour city buses and underground necessary? At the time of writing, seven days into an ten-day poll, 41,587 people have voted. 22% say both are needed, 5% say buses only, and 17% underground only. However, these three are outweighed by the noes to both, with 58% saying that both forms of round-the-clock public transport are not necessary.
More...

Enforce labor protections laws that are already in place?