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nikoneko wrote:Uff so are they going to start adding fake smoke flavoring and rubbing alcohol to Bourbon now like Suntory does to their cheap whiskies here? Not a fan of Suntory stuff at all even in the higher end really.
IparryU wrote:Ever since I won a bottle of 18 year... McAllen has been my fav Japanese whiskey. Yamazaki is also very good.
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Mike Oxlong wrote:IparryU wrote:Ever since I won a bottle of 18 year... McAllen has been my fav Japanese whiskey. Yamazaki is also very good.
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Are you talking about The Macallan? Scotch whisky, most definitely not from Japan.
American Oyaji wrote:Yamazaki is GOOD whiskey. Some of the best I've had and I've had a lot. The 12 year is great.
18 year Glenlivet...is frankly sinfully good.
As far as bourbon goes, Maker's Mark is ok, but I prefer Knob Creek. Both of which are owned by Jim Beam.
Frankly, I think owning a US distillery will let Suntory sell Yamazaki more broadly stateside. Not sure why but the Ohio Liquor Control Board removed it from sale in Ohio a couple years ago along with some other "foreign" brands. After that I noticed that Yamazaki prices went up and it was harder to get anywhere. I think some protectionism was going on
I think they'll leave Jim Beam alone and let it die if people decide not to drink it and promote their Japanese lines stateside.
Kanchou wrote:American Oyaji wrote:Yamazaki is GOOD whiskey. Some of the best I've had and I've had a lot. The 12 year is great.
18 year Glenlivet...is frankly sinfully good.
As far as bourbon goes, Maker's Mark is ok, but I prefer Knob Creek. Both of which are owned by Jim Beam.
Frankly, I think owning a US distillery will let Suntory sell Yamazaki more broadly stateside. Not sure why but the Ohio Liquor Control Board removed it from sale in Ohio a couple years ago along with some other "foreign" brands. After that I noticed that Yamazaki prices went up and it was harder to get anywhere. I think some protectionism was going on
I think they'll leave Jim Beam alone and let it die if people decide not to drink it and promote their Japanese lines stateside.
I want to try Knob Creek but ¥4000 is a lot of money.
chokonen888 wrote:You guys are getting excited over drinking something called Knob Creek....
Big Boy wrote:Yamazaki and Yoichi after payday. Akadama before.
chokonen888 wrote:You guys are getting excited over drinking something called Knob Creek....
American Oyaji wrote:I don't know what I'm looking at but I'm cracking up!!
Lol!!
wagyl wrote:(They even seem to believe that Budweiser is an international premium brand... )
wagyl wrote:I really don't think they are buying the brand just to then mess with the recipe or smother the product. Look at it this way: there has been an injection of Japanese cash into the US economy when the US shareholders were bought out, and no quantitative easing was required for that to happen!
As an example, half of the Australian beer market (the half that isn't South African owned) is owned by Kirin. They are not killing off brands or altering products, nor are they aggressively promoting their own products (They even seem to believe that Budweiser is an international premium brand... ). It is just a change of shareholders.
J.A.F.O wrote:American Oyaji wrote:I don't know what I'm looking at but I'm cracking up!!
Lol!!
Reminds me of this one
yanpa wrote:wagyl wrote:(They even seem to believe that Budweiser is an international premium brand... )
One of the tragedies of modern civilisation is the global prominence of Budweiser and its European counterpart, Heineken (although both are infinitely preferable to a concoction called "Pabst Blue Ribbon").
Kanchou wrote:For a beer you can buy for less than a dollar PBR isn't that bad.
Kanchou wrote:For a beer you can buy for less than a dollar PBR isn't that bad.
Mike Oxlong wrote:Aren't beer prices relatively cheap in Germany? If you live there you get to decent drink beer made from natural ingredients for not much more than Americans pay for PBR, don't you?
yanpa wrote:Mike Oxlong wrote:Aren't beer prices relatively cheap in Germany? If you live there you get to decent drink beer made from natural ingredients for not much more than Americans pay for PBR, don't you?
Yup. 50 yen will get you half-a-litre of something drinkable in a bottle.
Ironically the high-class Yamaya near my place of work (also selling champagne at upwards of 300,000 a bottle) has a display of a German beer called Oettinger marketed as "premium export beer", which caused me to snigger the first time I saw it because in Germany it's the bottom of the range stuff you get from Aldi or Lidl. Still beats the pants off Heiniken and co.
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