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Samurai_Jerk wrote:kurogane wrote:Please refrain from ethnocentric projectionalising that reeks of Yet More White People telling Japan how to live its life.
More hipsterism from the guy who hates hipsters. Why don't you go where an ironic T-shirt and drink some super double hop blueberry IPA? .
chokonen888 wrote:So...are you saying that there are people, say French, that naturalize here, throw away their French citizenship...and than go get back the French citizenship?
chokonen888 wrote:So...are you saying that there are people, say French, that naturalize here, throw away their French citizenship...and than go get back the French citizenship?
kurogane wrote:No need for FemBeer, btw. Found a place with bottles of Bud for 550 near the Thunder Gate in Arsakoosa.
Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:So...are you saying that there are people, say French, that naturalize here, throw away their French citizenship...and than go get back the French citizenship?
Not that I have the slightest intention in that direction as I don't really have a dog in the fight here but I fail to see why it is at all difficult for a normal reasonable person if s/he should have a good reason to do it. The UK rules specifically refer to a right to recover your citizenship after you have renounced it in order to gain another citizenship.
I would be very surprised if no-one has done it.
kurogane wrote:More importantly, the Japanese would never know...
Hijinx wrote:Speaking of renouncing citizenship, did anyone happen to see where the U.S. just upped the fee for this procedure?
http://rt.com/usa/183972-fee-renounce-us-citizenship/
I wonder at what point in the future will the U.S. start calling the act defection.
kurogane wrote:It's called Tokyo Knowledge, right on the main Thunder Road drag north side 2 back (east or riverside) from Kokusai-Doori, upstairs 2nd floor. It's only been open about 6 months. Their sandwichboard sign on the street is pretty striking. Nice owner, good crowd. It's more of a neighbourhood bar type scene, not a pickup club as one drunken Spaniard found out last week. 500 for Jpn beer, 550 for the luxury brands..............like Budweiser..........
I have been surprised how dead or schlocky touristy the Kaminari area is, even after the tourists go home. Asakusa in general seems rather dead, but I prefer that to clubby clubby. Nice to hear about the Thai place.
havill wrote:Hijinx wrote:Speaking of renouncing citizenship, did anyone happen to see where the U.S. just upped the fee for this procedure?
http://rt.com/usa/183972-fee-renounce-us-citizenship/
I wonder at what point in the future will the U.S. start calling the act defection.
There's a difference between renunciation and relinquishment in U.S. law. "Relinquishment", which is what 99% of most people do including everybody who naturalizes, is still free ($0).
"Renouncing" U.S. citizenship is rare, often (but not always) used to do something that Japan, Canada, and most European countries won't even allow you to do anymore: go stateless.
Takechanpoo wrote:speak only japanese
wagyl wrote:Takechanpoo wrote:speak only japanese
whoops!
havill wrote:kurogane wrote:More importantly, the Japanese would never know...
... until they try to apply for/renew a Japanese passport, that is, then they have to ask themselves, "am I feeling lucky?"
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Where America's 46 million immigrants come from, in one map
Coligny wrote:Only one step saner the Lizard people takeover conspiramacy theeries...
The landmark Supreme Court ruling in July that found permanent residents of Japan legally ineligible for public assistance is already having an impact. Moves are afoot both at the national and local levels to try to scale back or remove welfare payments to foreign residents.
In a lawsuit filed by an 82-year-old Chinese woman from Oita Prefecture, the nation’s top court made it clear that permanent foreign residents do not qualify for public assistance because they are not Japanese nationals. Article 1 of the 1950 Public Assistance Law states the law concerns “all nationals,” which the court said referred only to Japanese citizens.
Despite the ruling, the welfare ministry has stood by its long-standing policy of offering the same level of welfare protection to foreigners as Japanese, based on a notice it issued to municipal governments in 1954.
In line with the ministry policy, the municipal governments have distributed welfare benefits — ranging from cash assistance to free health care services to housing aid — to needy foreigners with permanent or long-term residency status, including the spouses of Japanese and migrant workers from Brazil.
But the July ruling has given momentum to some forces, including those harboring anti-foreigner sentiments and advocates of cutting “waste” in government spending, to try to limit foreigners’ access to welfare.
The minor opposition party Jisedai no To (Party for Future Generations), co-founded by ultranationalist Shintaro Ishihara, plans to submit bills to the extraordinary Diet session that would give destitute foreigners a year to choose between two extremes: becoming naturalized citizens or leaving the country.
The move follows an August proposal, by a team of lawmakers in the ruling Liberal Democratic party tasked with eliminating wasteful state spending, to restrict welfare assistance to foreigners.
“The welfare outlays to foreigners run up to ¥122 billion per year,” the Aug. 4 report by the LDP team said. “We must say it is difficult to maintain the status quo.”
The team also said the government “should create guidelines (on public assistance) for foreigners who arrive in Japan, and consider deporting those who cannot maintain a living.”
Taro Kono, a member of the Lower House who heads the LDP project team, said the envisioned revision to the welfare system would not affect permanent residents, but those on mid- to long-term visas. The changes would likely materialize in the form of denied access to public aid for a certain period after one’s arrival in Japan, to prevent abuse by those coming here just to receive welfare, he said. He added that the team has yet to decide on the number of months or years before foreigners would be granted access.
According to Kono, the rationale for creating a probational period is a provision in the Immigration Control and Refugee Recognition Law that states the government would deny entry to “a person who is likely to become a burden on the Japanese government or a local public entity because of an inability to make a living.”
“People who come to Japan on mid- to long-term visas would undergo a lot of events here, and some of them might lose their ability to make a living and apply for public assistance. That’s fine. But if they apply for assistance right after they arrive in Japan, that would mean they made a false claim (about their reason for coming),” Kono told The Japan Times earlier this month.
“Likewise when they renew their visas, they are supposed to have means to support themselves or otherwise their requests for visa renewals would be rejected. But if it turns out that they cannot sustain their living in, say, six months after their visas are renewed, that would mean they were not truthful about their means when they applied for a renewed visa, and (this would constitute) grounds for denial of public assistance.”
The LDP team also proposed that all welfare recipients be prescribed generic drugs unless otherwise specified by doctors. If they want to be prescribed patented drugs, they should pay for their share of the costs, according to the team’s report.
The team’s proposal for an eligibility requirement for foreigners based on their period of stay appears to be more or less in line with practices in other advanced countries.
Most European countries do not have a nationality clause for welfare benefits, but do list a residency period as a condition for eligibility, said Shinichi Oka, a professor of social security at Meiji Gakuin University in Tokyo.
At the same time, in Europe there is little distinction among different visa statuses, Oka said, noting that whether people have permanent resident status doesn’t affect their chances of qualifying for welfare.
“I’m not aware of any major European countries that (enforce) a nationality clause for public assistance eligibility,” Oka said. “The only requirement they have is that the applicants have lived in the country for a certain period of time.”
While the U.S. and Britain in principle deny welfare benefits to illegal aliens, in France, foreigners who have entered or are staying illegally in the country are also considered as “having the right to live” and are often deemed eligible for welfare benefits, Oka said.
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The minor opposition party Jisedai no To (Party for Future Generations), co-founded by ultranationalist Shintaro Ishihara, plans to submit bills to the extraordinary Diet session that would give destitute foreigners a year to choose between two extremes: becoming naturalized citizens or leaving the country.
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