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wagyl wrote:Time to trot out the favourite "A shocking tale, if true" disclaimer.
The tale of the experiences of a Comfort Woman, in cartoon format.
My personal feeling is that if all those events took place, it was certainly an eventful period.
More than 8,700 university professors, lawyers, teachers, journalists and others are suing the Asahi Shimbun, seeking both a formal apology and reparations for the newspaper’s stories on “comfort women.”
The group of plaintiffs, led by Sophia University professor emeritus Shoichi Watanabe, is demanding 10,000 yen in apparently symbolic compensation each, describing themselves as “Japanese citizens whose honor and credibility were damaged by the false reports made by the Asahi Shimbun”, according to court documents.
They argue that Asahi reports on the so-called “comfort women” system “have imposed indescribable humiliation not only on former soldiers but also on honorable Japanese citizens… who are labelled as descendents of gang rapists.”
chokonen888 wrote:We Japanese....oh what's the use, they look bad enough already. Honor and credibility...pwahahahahahaha!
chokonen888 wrote:Well, if it's anything like corporate Japan "honor and credibility," it simply means one must do/say ANYTHING in order to protect the company image.
The other day there was this huge thing on the news, showing Jewish concentration camp survivors revisiting the camps and all this talk about how horrible the Nazis were. Jewish jijis crying and sharing some of their stories. Absolutely zero on any of the several atrocities Japan committed. Going to be very interesting if Abe gets his way and in a few years the first Japanese military are caught doing some bizarre assery in the line of duty. I wonder what the reactions will be then...
Samurai_Jerk wrote:My guess is the reaction will be much like our government's reaction to Guantanamo, extra judicial execution of US citizens, and CIA torture.
chokonen888 wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:My guess is the reaction will be much like our government's reaction to Guantanamo, extra judicial execution of US citizens, and CIA torture.
Probably...the whole "it didn't happen if we ignore it mentality is strong." Of course that's nothing like all the arrests and condemnation of US soldiers doing similar assery....
Yokohammer wrote:Another bizarre twist in the comfort women saga ...
More than 8,700 people sue Asahi Shimbun over 'comfort women' storiesMore than 8,700 university professors, lawyers, teachers, journalists and others are suing the Asahi Shimbun, seeking both a formal apology and reparations for the newspaper’s stories on “comfort women.”
The group of plaintiffs, led by Sophia University professor emeritus Shoichi Watanabe, is demanding 10,000 yen in apparently symbolic compensation each, describing themselves as “Japanese citizens whose honor and credibility were damaged by the false reports made by the Asahi Shimbun”, according to court documents.
They argue that Asahi reports on the so-called “comfort women” system “have imposed indescribable humiliation not only on former soldiers but also on honorable Japanese citizens… who are labelled as descendents of gang rapists.”
Russell wrote:And the funny things is that those 8700 idiots are the ones who most damage the honor and credibility of Japan...
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Russell wrote:And the funny things is that those 8700 idiots are the ones who most damage the honor and credibility of Japan...
We should get together a group of Japanese to sue them for that.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Russell wrote:And the funny things is that those 8700 idiots are the ones who most damage the honor and credibility of Japan...
We should get together a group of Japanese to sue them for that.
A push by Japan to correct perceived bias in accounts of the country’s wartime past is creating a row that risks muddling the positive message in a mammoth public relations campaign to win friends abroad.
The PR campaign, which has a budget of over half a billion dollars, comes as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe aims to adopt a less apologetic stance on Japan’s actions before and during World War Two and ease the fetters imposed on defense policy by Japan’s post-war, pacifist constitution.
History is hardly the sole focus of the PR program. Many of the funds will be used for soft-power initiatives to cultivate “pro-Japan” foreigners, such as supporting Japan studies at universities and setting up “Japan House” centers to promote the “Japan Brand”.
But the government is also targeting wartime accounts by overseas textbook publishers and others that it sees as incorrect and damaging to Japan’s image.
One such effort has already sparked a backlash.
Nineteen historians from U.S. universities have written a letter of protest against a recent request by the Japanese government to publisher McGraw Hill Education to revise its account of “comfort women”, the term used in Japan for those forced to work in Japanese military brothels.
The request was rejected.
“We stand with the many historians in Japan and elsewhere who have worked to bring to light the facts about this and other atrocities of World War II. We practice and produce history to learn from the past,” says the letter, a copy of which was seen by Reuters and which will be carried in the March edition of the American Historical Association’s newsletter.
“We therefore oppose the efforts of states or special interests to pressure publishers or historians to alter the results of their research for political purposes,” it added.
Abe himself has signalled support for the more aggressive PR push. “Being modest does not receive recognition in the international community, and we must argue points when necessary,” he recently told a parliamentary panel.
The effort comes at a touchy time as Asia marks the 70th anniversary of World War Two’s end with bitter memories not yet laid to rest, especially in China and North and South Korea.
After a decade of shrinking spending on public diplomacy, Japan’s foreign ministry won a total 70 billion yen for strategic communications in an extra budget for 2014/15 and the initial budget for the next year from April - up from just 20 billion yen in the initial 2014/15 budget.
Many politicians and officials worry Japan has been outmaneuvered by the aggressive public diplomacy of regional rivals China and South Korea.
“Many countries are investing hugely in this field and we feel we were not investing enough,” said a Japanese foreign ministry official.
Conservatives have welcomed the bigger budget but want priority placed on correcting perceived errors about history.
“When we see lots of misunderstanding or prejudice against Japan’s history, we’d like to at least set the record straight,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a journalist and head of the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, a conservative think tank.
“We have already lost (the information war). Now we have to recover,” she told Reuters in an interview.
Aware of the danger of a backlash, diplomats seem to have mitigated pressure to make the “Japan House” centers - to be set up first in London, Los Angeles and Sao Paulo in late 2016 - beachheads to market an official view of history. Instead, the facilities could provide what one bureaucrat called a “platform for balanced discussion” on controversial topics, for example, by sponsoring seminars.
Conservative politicians however want bolder steps.
“We are half-satisfied. By mobilizing all means, we must strengthen Japan’s information strategy ... so that in a real sense, we can have (others) properly understand what is good about Japan,” said ruling Liberal Democratic Party lawmaker Yoshiaki Harada, who heads a party committee on improving Japan’s communication strategy.
Experts said government efforts to seek changes in historical accounts would be counter-productive, since it would keep the issue of Japan’s wartime past in public focus.
“Dragging people into a long discussion about history ... seems like they are going to brand Japan with that atrocity in terms of its image,” said Dartmouth College professor Jennifer Lind. “It’s a losing battle.”
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A push by Japan to correct perceived bias in accounts of the country’s wartime past is creating a row that risks muddling the positive message in a mammoth public relations campaign to win friends abroad.
The PR campaign, which has a budget of over half a billion dollars, comes as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe aims to adopt a less apologetic stance on Japan’s actions before and during World War Two and ease the fetters imposed on defense policy by Japan’s post-war, pacifist constitution.
History is hardly the sole focus of the PR program. Many of the funds will be used for soft-power initiatives to cultivate “pro-Japan” foreigners, such as supporting Japan studies at universities and setting up “Japan House” centers to promote the “Japan Brand”.
But the government is also targeting wartime accounts by overseas textbook publishers and others that it sees as incorrect and damaging to Japan’s image.
One such effort has already sparked a backlash.
Nineteen historians from U.S. universities have written a letter of protest against a recent request by the Japanese government to publisher McGraw Hill Education to revise its account of “comfort women”, the term used in Japan for those forced to work in Japanese military brothels.
The request was rejected.
“We stand with the many historians in Japan and elsewhere who have worked to bring to light the facts about this and other atrocities of World War II. We practice and produce history to learn from the past,” says the letter, a copy of which was seen by Reuters and which will be carried in the March edition of the American Historical Association’s newsletter.
“We therefore oppose the efforts of states or special interests to pressure publishers or historians to alter the results of their research for political purposes,” it added.
Abe himself has signalled support for the more aggressive PR push. “Being modest does not receive recognition in the international community, and we must argue points when necessary,” he recently told a parliamentary panel.
The effort comes at a touchy time as Asia marks the 70th anniversary of World War Two’s end with bitter memories not yet laid to rest, especially in China and North and South Korea.
After a decade of shrinking spending on public diplomacy, Japan’s foreign ministry won a total 70 billion yen for strategic communications in an extra budget for 2014/15 and the initial budget for the next year from April - up from just 20 billion yen in the initial 2014/15 budget.
Many politicians and officials worry Japan has been outmaneuvered by the aggressive public diplomacy of regional rivals China and South Korea.
“Many countries are investing hugely in this field and we feel we were not investing enough,” said a Japanese foreign ministry official.
Conservatives have welcomed the bigger budget but want priority placed on correcting perceived errors about history.
“When we see lots of misunderstanding or prejudice against Japan’s history, we’d like to at least set the record straight,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a journalist and head of the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, a conservative think tank.
“We have already lost (the information war). Now we have to recover,” she told Reuters in an interview.
Aware of the danger of a backlash, diplomats seem to have mitigated pressure to make the “Japan House” centers - to be set up first in London, Los Angeles and Sao Paulo in late 2016 - beachheads to market an official view of history. Instead, the facilities could provide what one bureaucrat called a “platform for balanced discussion” on controversial topics, for example, by sponsoring seminars.
Conservative politicians however want bolder steps.
“We are half-satisfied. By mobilizing all means, we must strengthen Japan’s information strategy ... so that in a real sense, we can have (others) properly understand what is good about Japan,” said ruling Liberal Democratic Party lawmaker Yoshiaki Harada, who heads a party committee on improving Japan’s communication strategy.
Experts said government efforts to seek changes in historical accounts would be counter-productive, since it would keep the issue of Japan’s wartime past in public focus.
“Dragging people into a long discussion about history ... seems like they are going to brand Japan with that atrocity in terms of its image,” said Dartmouth College professor Jennifer Lind. “It’s a losing battle.”
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“When we see lots of misunderstanding or prejudice against Japan’s history, we’d like to at least set the record straight,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a journalist and head of the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, a conservative think tank.
“We have already lost (the information war). Now we have to recover,” she told Reuters in an interview.
chokonen888 wrote:“When we see lots of misunderstanding or prejudice against Japan’s history, we’d like to at least set the record straight,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a journalist and head of the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, a conservative think tank.
“We have already lost (the information war). Now we have to recover,” she told Reuters in an interview.
Lost the information war? Those pesky things like verifiable facts, free information, and evidence getting in the way of Japanese attempts to rewrite history?
Salty wrote:chokonen888 wrote:“When we see lots of misunderstanding or prejudice against Japan’s history, we’d like to at least set the record straight,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a journalist and head of the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, a conservative think tank.
“We have already lost (the information war). Now we have to recover,” she told Reuters in an interview.
Lost the information war? Those pesky things like verifiable facts, free information, and evidence getting in the way of Japanese attempts to rewrite history?
Maybe they have invented a time machine, and are going back to un-do the atrocities....
chokonen888 wrote:Salty wrote:chokonen888 wrote:“When we see lots of misunderstanding or prejudice against Japan’s history, we’d like to at least set the record straight,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a journalist and head of the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, a conservative think tank.
“We have already lost (the information war). Now we have to recover,” she told Reuters in an interview.
Lost the information war? Those pesky things like verifiable facts, free information, and evidence getting in the way of Japanese attempts to rewrite history?
Maybe they have invented a time machine, and are going back to un-do the atrocities....
I think I saw that movie...can't remember the name but it was Korean and was portraying Japan-controlled Korea
Russell wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Salty wrote:chokonen888 wrote:“When we see lots of misunderstanding or prejudice against Japan’s history, we’d like to at least set the record straight,” said Yoshiko Sakurai, a journalist and head of the Japan Institute for National Fundamentals, a conservative think tank.
“We have already lost (the information war). Now we have to recover,” she told Reuters in an interview.
Lost the information war? Those pesky things like verifiable facts, free information, and evidence getting in the way of Japanese attempts to rewrite history?
Maybe they have invented a time machine, and are going back to un-do the atrocities....
I think I saw that movie...can't remember the name but it was Korean and was portraying Japan-controlled Korea
I do remember that movie in which this US Navy ship was transported back in time through a thunderstorm just to the time right before the attack on Pearl Harbor. Forgot how it ended...
Salty wrote:so.... where does that leave Japan`s comic books… err, history books?
Some common assumptions about history textbooks used in Japan turn out to be ill-founded. Far from inculcating patriotism, as many overseas observers assume, Japanese high school textbooks tend to dryly present a chronology of historical facts, with little interpretive narrative added. This is the finding of the Divided Memories and Reconciliation project by the author and his colleague Professor Gi-Wook Shin, involving an in-depth comparison of history textbooks used in China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the United States.
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Takechanpoo wrote:Salty wrote:so.... where does that leave Japan`s comic books… err, history books?
you fagtard actually read it? answer by yes or no. you "neat" and "liberal" gaijin dudes always judge J-history things only by superficial impressions. dont talk or pretend like knowing everything about J-history things any more without direct verifications. fuking hypocrites
according to Asia Pacific reserch center in Stanford University,
Japan's history textbook is most fair among japan, usa, china, korea and taiwans one.Some common assumptions about history textbooks used in Japan turn out to be ill-founded. Far from inculcating patriotism, as many overseas observers assume, Japanese high school textbooks tend to dryly present a chronology of historical facts, with little interpretive narrative added. This is the finding of the Divided Memories and Reconciliation project by the author and his colleague Professor Gi-Wook Shin, involving an in-depth comparison of history textbooks used in China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the United States.
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http://www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/a00703/
22. In contrast, Germany has paid DM88 billion in compensation and reparations to Jewish Holocaust victims and will spend another DM20 billion by 2005. Japan has virtually paid nothing and continues to maintain an innocence that contrasts with Germany’s profound self-examination. See, “The Other Holocaust: Nanjing Massacre, Unite 731 & Unite 100,”
http://www.interlog.com/ %7Eyuan/Japan.html, 19 February 1996.
Takechanpoo wrote:Salty wrote:so.... where does that leave Japan`s comic books… err, history books?
you fagtard actually read it? answer by yes or no. you "neat" and "liberal" gaijin dudes always judge J-history things only by superficial impressions. dont talk or pretend like knowing everything about J-history things any more without direct verifications. fuking hypocrites
according to Asia Pacific reserch center in Stanford University,
Japan's history textbook is most fair among japan, usa, china, korea and taiwans one.Some common assumptions about history textbooks used in Japan turn out to be ill-founded. Far from inculcating patriotism, as many overseas observers assume, Japanese high school textbooks tend to dryly present a chronology of historical facts, with little interpretive narrative added. This is the finding of the Divided Memories and Reconciliation project by the author and his colleague Professor Gi-Wook Shin, involving an in-depth comparison of history textbooks used in China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the United States.
...........
http://www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/a00703/
Salty wrote:
No.
But it isn`t what they say, or even how they say it - but rather what is left unsaid. BTW, this is also true for US history books.
But to ask a question here - do you truly believe that Japanese school history books properly cover the Japan war atrocities - Nanking, 731, beheadings, long pig, slavery, treatment of Okinawan and other civilians, etc.?
Thus giving Japanese kids a clear understanding of their history and why Asian countries have claims...
Takechanpoo wrote:its ONLY China and Korea. recently its called 特定アジア(specific Asia) or 特ア.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Takechanpoo wrote:its ONLY China and Korea. recently its called 特定アジア(specific Asia) or 特ア.
Filipinos hate you too.
Salty wrote:it isn`t what they say, or even how they say it - but rather what is left unsaid.
But to ask a question here - do you truly believe that Japanese school history books properly cover the Japan war atrocities - Nanking, 731, beheadings, long pig, slavery, treatment of Okinawan and other civilians, etc.? Thus giving Japanese kids a clear understanding of their history and why Asian countries have claims...
Japanese history textbooks do not provide students with a detailed accounting of Japanese colonial rule, particularly in Korea.
One clear lacuna is the almost complete absence of accounts of Japanese colonial rule in Korea.
chokonen888 wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:Takechanpoo wrote:its ONLY China and Korea. recently its called 特定アジア(specific Asia) or 特ア.
Filipinos hate you too.
Don't forget Australia or New Guinea either...
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