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Adopt, Never Buy, A Pet

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:22 am

Actress/sexpert Aya Sugimoto founds organization for animal welfare
Former J-pop star, erotic novelist and television sex guru Aya Sugimoto is already well-known in the Japanese animal welfare community for her strong anti-fur stance, but this year she has taken aim at the abominable state of Japan’s pet industry by founding her own animal welfare organization, Eva.

Last week, she sat down with members of the media to talk about why 170,000 cats and dogs are inhumanely gassed every year in Japan and what we can do about it.

Although Japan loves its pets — currently, the number of cats and dogs outnumber children in Japan’s homes — over 200,000 animals end up at animal control each year. Of these, about 170,000 are put down. And lest you think they are humanely euthanized, think again. To save money, animals are crowded into an air-tight box 20 or 30 at a time and gassed with carbon dioxide, effectively strangulating them over several minutes. Sugimoto describes them as “writhing in agony” during the process.

Of course, this is not just a problem with how most Department of Public Health offices deal with the problem of stray and abandoned animals. It’s also an issue of why so many animals end up there in the first place. Sugimoto lays the blame clearly at the feet of an unscrupulous pet industry and an uninformed citizenry.

Demand has led to an increase in so-called puppy mills, where dogs and cats of popular breeds are produced as quickly as possible, without thought to the health or welfare of the animals. The babies are then sold at auction to pet shops, often before they are eight weeks old, long before experts recommend removing them from their mother and siblings. This has been shown to cause behavioral problems later in life. Pet shops then display the kittens and puppies in little window showcases. Until recently, they were even allowed to do this 24 hours a day. Animals that are not sold while they are still young often end up abandoned or turned over to the pound, which of course means they will probably end up in the aforementioned gas chambers.

Sugimoto also says the industry helps to create irresponsible pet owners by allowing anyone who can pay to take an animal home, without having any idea about how to properly train or care for it. They may not even know how big their puppy is going to get, for example. This leads to owners abandoning their pets down the road when they can’t control them or they no longer fit their lifestyle.

These kind of pet owners are not rare, she says, but rather, “they are normal, average, healthy citizens.” There is simply not much awareness about animal welfare or what happens to stray and abandoned animals.

Sugimoto suggested that the answer to the problem lay in educating this public and bringing about changes in Japan’s animal welfare system. From the point of view of the law, she said, animals are things, not living beings. Moreover, the police and other government officials charged with carrying out the law as it exists generally do not know what it actually says. There are no public institutions tasked specifically with the problem of animal abuse, leaving diverse and scattered private organizations to pick up the slack.

With her organization, Sugimoto hopes to work towards “a mature and healthy society where animals and people can live together happily.”

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Postby Coligny » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:01 pm

While I toats agree with her, having 2 rescue and a nursed kitty at home...

CO/CO2 death are as painless as they go. That's the danger with co/co2... You don't die... you fall asleep to death...

Recovering from oxygen depletion/CO poisoning meanwhile is one bad experience... take your worst hangover times ten for up to a few days...

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Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:11 pm

Coligny wrote:While I toats agree with her, having 2 rescue and a nursed kitty at home...

CO/CO2 death are as painless as they go. That's the danger with co/co2... You don't die... you fall asleep to death...


Done improperly, as it usually is, one sees escape behaviors, hears vocalizations, and gets spasmodic convulsions near the end. It's really...not nice. :cry2:
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Postby Coligny » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:49 pm

Not nice to kill strays no matter the method anyway...
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Postby Grumpy Gramps » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:40 pm

Three dogs and One Cat here, all adopted. I think, the pets in Japan are all in all a lot better cared for now than in earlier years. In my neck of the woods there are just a very few chain-dogs left, when they were everywhere back in the 1980ies.

Lots more to learn they have, though, until the puppy-mills get out of business. And the "cute-fetish" of the Japanese is not helping either (pink poodles: AFAIK the color pink in not natural in dogs and can only be "designed" by inbreeding).
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:46 pm

I'm kinda cute, and rather pink... :oops:
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:02 pm

Grumpy Gramps wrote:Three dogs and One Cat here, all adopted. I think, the pets in Japan are all in all a lot better cared for now than in earlier years. In my neck of the woods there are just a very few chain-dogs left, when they were everywhere back in the 1980ies.

Lots more to learn they have, though, until the puppy-mills get out of business. And the "cute-fetish" of the Japanese is not helping either (pink poodles: AFAIK the color pink in not natural in dogs and can only be "designed" by inbreeding).


Even when I first got here in the late 90s I saw a lot of those poor dogs on half-meter chains lying on hot concrete and panting away in front of people's houses in the summer. That practice seems to have died off with the dinosaurs that owned them.
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Re: Adopt, Never Buy, A Pet

Postby Coligny » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:30 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Grumpy Gramps wrote:Three dogs and One Cat here, all adopted. I think, the pets in Japan are all in all a lot better cared for now than in earlier years. In my neck of the woods there are just a very few chain-dogs left, when they were everywhere back in the 1980ies.

Lots more to learn they have, though, until the puppy-mills get out of business. And the "cute-fetish" of the Japanese is not helping either (pink poodles: AFAIK the color pink in not natural in dogs and can only be "designed" by inbreeding).


Even when I first got here in the late 90s I saw a lot of those poor dogs on half-meter chains lying on hot concrete and panting away in front of people's houses in the summer. That practice seems to have died off with the dinosaurs that owned them.


Got one of those inbred here... Right behind the central train station... Living in the last wooden shack of the hood...

Meanwhile here, starting to stockpile on grey carpetting to build the next cat fort... Need to switch from cardboard to plywood if I want it to last more than a week...after that... i don't know... Fiberglass or concrete... But since they took the habit of taking down the walls by headbutting them, better stick with somewhat forgiving materials...
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Postby Russell » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:57 pm

Coligny wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Grumpy Gramps wrote:Three dogs and One Cat here, all adopted. I think, the pets in Japan are all in all a lot better cared for now than in earlier years. In my neck of the woods there are just a very few chain-dogs left, when they were everywhere back in the 1980ies.

Lots more to learn they have, though, until the puppy-mills get out of business. And the "cute-fetish" of the Japanese is not helping either (pink poodles: AFAIK the color pink in not natural in dogs and can only be "designed" by inbreeding).


Even when I first got here in the late 90s I saw a lot of those poor dogs on half-meter chains lying on hot concrete and panting away in front of people's houses in the summer. That practice seems to have died off with the dinosaurs that owned them.


Got one of those inbred here... Right behind the central train station... Living in the last wooden shack of the hood...

Meanwhile here, starting to stockpile on grey carpetting to build the next cat fort... Need to switch from cardboard to plywood if I want it to last more than a week...after that... i don't know... Fiberglass or concrete... But since they took the habit of taking down the walls by headbutting them, better stick with somewhat forgiving materials...

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Re: Adopt, Never Buy, A Pet

Postby Coligny » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:15 pm

Russell wrote:You do realize that upgrading building materials will force your wife to buy you some more advanced power tools, do you?!?


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Wonder if they have this one in red...

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Re: Adopt, Never Buy, A Pet

Postby matsuki » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:33 pm

Does anyone have any recommendations for shelters in Tokyo? I need a running/camping bitch that takes orders and won't talk back.
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Postby kurogane » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:46 pm

I beri beri dislike the connection between fur and RSPCA activism, but good on her for promoting adoption. I have friends in both Japan and Vangroover too poor to afford a second car or nice home that each spent about $5000 CAD on fag dogs (they look like a Pekinese fucked a Bull Terrier) when there are widdle puppies languishing in shelters.

OTOH, it can easily cost >>>>$500 to actually get a dog out of a shelter in Canada, so they're not exactly promoting it with the right business model. And yes, I know why it costs that much, but imposing a tax on top of preaching moral duty rarely works out that well for anybody but the ecstatic sanctimone.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:05 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Does anyone have any recommendations for shelters in Tokyo? I need a running/camping bitch that takes orders and won't talk back.


So basically you need a trained german shepperd, for free...

Wonder if the Russian kept the Soviet fixation with the combo german shepperd/watchtowers for their military base. Maybe Счка can get you a deal from a toyboyfriend of some kind...
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:09 pm

kurogane wrote:I beri beri dislike the connection between fur and RSPCA activism, but good on her for promoting adoption.


I'd tell her to "get fucked" with all that peta shit but...well...

kurogane wrote:OTOH, it can easily cost >>>>$500 to actually get a dog out of a shelter in Canada, so they're not exactly promoting it with the right business model. And yes, I know why it costs that much, but imposing a tax on top of preaching moral duty rarely works out that well for anybody but the ecstatic sanctimone.


That's fucked, it's pretty much the opposite here, no? Pet stores built into the "home centers" and on street corners in kabuki-cho offering kawaii for suuu man en whereas most people I've asked have never even heard of the shelters...only animal control :roll: A lil PR wouldn't hurt...

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chokonen888 wrote:Does anyone have any recommendations for shelters in Tokyo? I need a running/camping bitch that takes orders and won't talk back.


So basically you need a trained german shepperd, for free...

Wonder if the Russian kept the Soviet fixation with the combo german shepperd/watchtowers for their military base. Maybe Счка can get you a deal from a toyboyfriend of some kind...


...or maybe Take can get me a deal on a "comfort woman?" He seems to know alot about them. :twisted:
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:30 pm

From the 3 cats we have here. None was bought.

-Douin was found as a starving kitten in my street. Calling for help. Easy catch with food. Had to teach him how to cat, even falling on his paw was apparently a foreign concept. Climbing ladders, going down ladders -should have started with going down to avoid issues- his favorit hobby being to fart while watching TV for hours...

-Kelche was nursed in the bunker with 2 of her sibbling waiting to be big enough for adoption. I got the task from the local vet. (The phone call started with "I found you a turtleshell but..."). No nursing duty this year yet unfortunately... (Love turtleshells they are completely insane, usually twice smarter than me but unlike bengal they need more than 2 hours of sleep per day... Bengals can kill you from exhaustion quite quickly)

-Bantegeat (yes, not easy name) was found on top of a bridge over the central station railtrack running through traffic (kitten too). Nerv wrecking catch with near death close call from the bumper of a dump truck (for me that is). Took one hour of shower/bath to get her flea free... Little princess ever since...
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:19 pm

Girl I know bought a cat a few months ago....spayed it and threw away all the ancestry documentation on how "pure" the lil turd is. I asked her why not get one from a shelter if you don't care about that shit or plan to breed her?

"What's a shelter?"

To the pet shop's credit, the price did include vaccinations, tests, and "kitty starter kit" ....but it went from being a cute and wild kitteh to a bitchy, skittish cat I almost kicked out the window. Fucker decided she doesn't like me after that (was total accident...attacked my foot on the sofa and just a reflex reaction sent the lil turd flying into the window) and literally attacks me as I walk by now...not to mention it's one of those cats that constantly growls if you get near it while it's eating. Forgivable if it was feral but for how much she spent on it, it's a pretty vicious creature.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:46 pm

chokonen888 wrote:but it went from being a cute and wild kitteh to a bitchy, skittish cat I almost kicked out the window. Fucker decided she doesn't like me after that (was total accident...attacked my foot on the sofa and just a reflex reaction sent the lil turd flying into the window) and literally attacks me as I walk by now...not to mention it's one of those cats that constantly growls if you get near it while it's eating. Forgivable if it was feral but for how much she spent on it, it's a pretty vicious creature.


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Postby kurogane » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:52 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
kurogane wrote:I beri beri dislike the connection between fur and RSPCA activism, but good on her for promoting adoption.


I'd tell her to "get fucked" with all that peta shit but...well...


Yeah, nothing wrong with fur. People make a living from it and while I don't really think it belongs in high fashion you can’t beat a lot of furs and skins for warmth, durability, etc., esp. up north and such. Apparently a proper wolf ruff on a parka hood is to die for, but there's a bit of a shortage of them still, and I'm a city boy anyways.

That lack of knowledge about the shelters and such sounds about par for the course; people used to look at me like I was nuts when I used to go to the local community centres to play badminton or ping pong, the library for books, or the elementary schools for bake sales. Until the bubble burst and everybody went skint they were almost embarassed to use the available facilities on offer. A well done PR campaign would probably do wonders to let people know it's there, it's cheap, and they're cute and ready for a home. It seems to me you can't swing one cat without hitting 5 other strays but the pound must have some great dogs.

Is there any PR campaign for fixin' all them feckers? What is really needed is a widespread scissor campaign, though I doubt many old people will go for that. Love of nature being what it is :rolleyes:
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:29 pm

Coligny wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:but it went from being a cute and wild kitteh to a bitchy, skittish cat I almost kicked out the window. Fucker decided she doesn't like me after that (was total accident...attacked my foot on the sofa and just a reflex reaction sent the lil turd flying into the window) and literally attacks me as I walk by now...not to mention it's one of those cats that constantly growls if you get near it while it's eating. Forgivable if it was feral but for how much she spent on it, it's a pretty vicious creature.


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-Chokonen (aka Little Spastic Narwhal)
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I was tempted to see if it lands feet first from the 4th floor but last time I was there, I woke up to it curled up next to me, purring. Too cute....of course an hour later it's back to growling and taking swipes at me as I walk by.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:17 pm

I got a hint for you...

Feline psychology is a thing. There is no behaviour without cause. And therefore always a solution.

Tried to feed her or eat together ? The growling might hint at rivalry, the feline feel threatened ?did you interupt her meal too ?

Turn the limb hunt toward a shared playing time through regular cat toys ? Always try the huge feather at the end of a long soft stick. If she is too active for the feather go with little weighted feathery stuff on strings. Bait bait, pull quick...
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:44 pm

Coligny wrote:I got a hint for you...

Feline psychology is a thing. There is no behaviour without cause. And therefore always a solution.

Tried to feed her or eat together ? The growling might hint at rivalry, the feline feel threatened ?did you interupt her meal too ?

Turn the limb hunt toward a shared playing time through regular cat toys ? Always try the huge feather at the end of a long soft stick. If she is too active for the feather go with little weighted feathery stuff on strings. Bait bait, pull quick...

Good advice. You'll be promoted from scratching-post to whipping boy. :lol:

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Postby Coligny » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:02 pm

Bow before the one true Prophet

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Galaxy

The guy is to feline psychology what Francoise Dolto had been for early childhood psychology.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:11 pm

Coligny wrote:I got a hint for you...

Feline psychology is a thing. There is no behaviour without cause. And therefore always a solution.

Tried to feed her or eat together ? The growling might hint at rivalry, the feline feel threatened ?did you interupt her meal too ?

Turn the limb hunt toward a shared playing time through regular cat toys ? Always try the huge feather at the end of a long soft stick. If she is too active for the feather go with little weighted feathery stuff on strings. Bait bait, pull quick...


Fuck that shit, choko. Punt that cunt right off the veranda.
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:11 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Coligny wrote:I got a hint for you...

Feline psychology is a thing. There is no behaviour without cause. And therefore always a solution.

Tried to feed her or eat together ? The growling might hint at rivalry, the feline feel threatened ?did you interupt her meal too ?

Turn the limb hunt toward a shared playing time through regular cat toys ? Always try the huge feather at the end of a long soft stick. If she is too active for the feather go with little weighted feathery stuff on strings. Bait bait, pull quick...


Fuck that shit, choko. Punt that cunt right off the veranda.


Believe me...it's tempting :twisted:

...but more interested in seeing if the cat psych actually works. Not too confident since the fucker seems to hate me more and more.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:25 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Coligny wrote:I got a hint for you...

Feline psychology is a thing. There is no behaviour without cause. And therefore always a solution.

Tried to feed her or eat together ? The growling might hint at rivalry, the feline feel threatened ?did you interupt her meal too ?

Turn the limb hunt toward a shared playing time through regular cat toys ? Always try the huge feather at the end of a long soft stick. If she is too active for the feather go with little weighted feathery stuff on strings. Bait bait, pull quick...


Fuck that shit, choko. Punt that cunt right off the veranda.


Believe me...it's tempting :twisted:

...but more interested in seeing if the cat psych actually works. Not too confident since the fucker seems to hate me more and more.

Just go along. Become Buttercup's bottom bitch, yeah! :mrgreen:
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Re: Router recommendation

Postby Coligny » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:27 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Coligny wrote:I got a hint for you...

Feline psychology is a thing. There is no behaviour without cause. And therefore always a solution.

Tried to feed her or eat together ? The growling might hint at rivalry, the feline feel threatened ?did you interupt her meal too ?

Turn the limb hunt toward a shared playing time through regular cat toys ? Always try the huge feather at the end of a long soft stick. If she is too active for the feather go with little weighted feathery stuff on strings. Bait bait, pull quick...


Fuck that shit, choko. Punt that cunt right off the veranda.




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-Chokonen (aka Little Spastic Narwhal)
-SJ
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