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Salty wrote:You did not initially ask if the parties differed in their stance toward whaling - but rather if the parties had different policies. Please don`t add lying to your tool chest.
wagyl wrote:matsuki wrote:Ok Wags, in your words, what is wrong with the J-gov?
In my view, the biggest issue, and what causes the changes of leadership, are the constantly reforming and realigning factions within whichever party or coalition happens to be in power at any one time. Dietmembers seem to be perfectly happy to realign themselves behind a different faction leader at each reshuffle, which seems to happen at each minor crisis. The major motivator is not what their constituents want or even what their constituents voted them in to do, but instead whatever is expedient for their political career. That last factor is common to the political animal everywhere, though. I think. The faction system is not a force of good for democracy, in my view. Possibly because of the limitations on campaigning I mentioned above (My name! My name! Yoroshiku onegai itashimasu!) and also for cultural reasons, there is less tendency to call politicians to account about whether they are actually keeping the bargains they made to get elected.
I know that it goes against democracy to deny a particular class an entitlement to become dietmembers, but the tendency for political dynasties here does tempt me to wish that they would stop relatives of members becoming members themselves. Then again, a few people in the US probably have a similar wish in relation to their own political system.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Matsuki, General Butt Naked is from Liberia.
wagyl wrote:Salty wrote:You did not initially ask if the parties differed in their stance toward whaling - but rather if the parties had different policies. Please don`t add lying to your tool chest.
Oh I do beg your pardon for totally wasting your time.
I have failed in my education and social skills.
In a thread all about whaling, in response to a post saying that one party is using whaling as a tool to -- let's be generous in the interpretation of that post -- obtain more votes than other parties, I ask whether the other parties have different policies.
It is completely ludicrous for anyone to think that that question might be about their stance towards whaling.
Especially when after your first reply, I counter that you have not addressed the issue of whaling in that reply.
To which you replied that it is all about whaling.
Completely ludicrous.
Oh, about the drinking meme. It seems I might have touched a sore nerve there. Well, I am not the one who has on more than one occasion tried to excuse a dodgy post with "it was after sake." You can understand that if you are going to decide not to stand by your posts on that ground, that also has an impact on how much notice I am going to take of any of your other posts, and how much effort I am going to put into replying.
I stand by my post record. If you look at this or any other thread, you will see that although I do give as good as I get in abuse, I am not ever the first to throw the stone. I start from a polite stance. If things are escalated by the other party, however, I am fully willing to meet them on that new field.
But not to worry, Salty. I have now seen that buy means obtain, and that a topic about whales is really about vote imbalance. I'm still not clear on whether support for whaling is vote buying in your mind or not, and you know what, that doesn't really matter. I do know that your presentation of your debate has not meshed with anything I have a reference to -- that may be down to logic issues you have belatedly acknowledged -- so it is all a mystery and will probably remain that way. I can live with that.
Thank God this episode is over. I can now get back to that whalesong mp3.
Japan will resume by the end of March so-called research whaling in the Antarctic Ocean after having suspended it since March last year, the Fisheries Agency said Friday.
The International Court of Justice in The Hague judged in March 2014 that Japan’s whaling program in the Antarctic Ocean violated an international commercial whaling moratorium which came into force in 1986.
The agency concluded the plan submitted to the International Whaling Commission for resuming whaling in the Antarctic Ocean by cutting annual minke whale catches by two-thirds to 333 is scientifically adequate and no change is needed.
An IWC panel did not reach a consensus on Japan’s whaling plan in the Antarctic Ocean at its meeting earlier in the year.
Japan had carried out what it calls scientific whaling in the Antarctic Ocean since 1987.
Minke whale - the most researched species in the history of the world, since the beginning of time - bar none.
Takechanpoo wrote:why is not it allowed to eat if it has high intelligence? or why is it allowed to eat if it just has low intelligence?
regardless of whether it has high intelligence or not, the fact remains that every living things have the same value as a piece of the whole ecosystem. ....
dolphins—mammals that, incidentally, were declared “non-human persons” by India in February 2014. As India’s Ministry of Environment and Forests explained at the time:
"Whereas cetaceans [dolphins, whales, porpoises] in general are highly intelligent and sensitive, and various scientists who have researched dolphin behavior have suggested that the unusually high intelligence as compared to other animals means that dolphins should be seen as ‘non-human persons’ and as such should have their own specific rights …"
matsuki wrote:
The issue could be banning used school girl panty vending machines but when you come out saying you will abide by the International court's decision.....and then you only alter the level of the banned behavior "in consideration" of the courts decision, your other international plights probable won't get much sympathy and any decisions in your favor aren't as likely to be as respected when you're looked at as a country that has ignored decisions against it.
Russell wrote:matsuki wrote:
The issue could be banning used school girl panty vending machines but when you come out saying you will abide by the International court's decision.....and then you only alter the level of the banned behavior "in consideration" of the courts decision, your other international plights probable won't get much sympathy and any decisions in your favor aren't as likely to be as respected when you're looked at as a country that has ignored decisions against it.
In other words, China will use this as an excuse in its island disputes with Japan?
"We did our best to try to meet the criteria established by the International Court of Justice and we have decided to implement our research plan, because we are confident that we completed the scientific homework as well as ... meeting the ICJ judgment requirement," Morishita told a news conference.
Morishita added that the emotive issue may just be another one of many irreconcilable differences international society has to live with.
"The solution is that we have to agree to disagree," he said.
"However, this does not mean that we will take all whales - exactly because we'd like to have sustainable whaling, we'd like to have a healthy whale population."
Samurai_Jerk wrote:World must agree to disagree on hunting whales, Japan official says
Russell wrote:Now, if those environmentalists are really smart they paint the text "研究" on the sides of their ships, and claim that their actions are just a psychological experiment to test the Japanese population for sensitivity to hypocrisy.
wagyl wrote:Russell wrote:Now, if those environmentalists are really smart they paint the text "研究" on the sides of their ships, and claim that their actions are just a psychological experiment to test the Japanese population for sensitivity to hypocrisy.
Russell I am sick and tired of your constantly ridiculous suggestions. Everybody knows that you can only truly study those sort of parameters by killing the test subjects.
Takechanpoo wrote:i once deeply researched about Tsutomu Miyazaki. even went to watch the remained site of his ex-home.
its over 90% he was falsely accused.
still the true culprit is alive somewhere......
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