The END is near!

[Russell]

Naw, you gotta try pretty hard to get banned from FG.

Remember Tokyo Joe?

[FG Lurker]

Remember Tokyo Joe?

He was banned for spamming his useless video blogs, almost certainly after receiving several warnings. It's not easy to get banned from FG which is one of the things that makes it such a great site.

[Russell]

He was banned for spamming his useless video blogs, almost certainly after receiving several warnings. It's not easy to get banned from FG which is one of the things that makes it such a great site.

Everyone's recollection may differ, but Tokyo Joe distinguished himself by being fornicating boring and repetitive.

But I agree with you about the merits of it being hard to get banned from FG.

Even with pretty offensive postings one will have a life here, but my point was that boring and predictable are in a different league...

[rooboy]

Tokyo Joe rocks!:cool: Whoever he is, he fucking makes people believe he's serious but he's just a bloke whose a clever parodist.

And what posters have been banned recently or are famous cases? Fg's easygoing and thats why it rocks but I reckon posters who send other posters pms when they've been told to bugger off and stop contacting them, should be banned. Used to post on gaijinpot some time ago and the fuckwits who keep trolling and sending pms were usually banned if the posters who received their garbage pms complained to the mods.

Hasn't happened to me here, anybody had the experience of trolling pms?

[FG Lurker]

Hasn't happened to me here, anybody had the experience of trolling pms?

If you put someone on your FG ignore list they are unable to PM you. New accounts also do not get PM privileges until they have been mod-approved.

[Coligny]

Tokyo Joe rocks!:cool: Whoever he is, he fucking makes people believe he's serious but he's just a bloke whose a clever parodist.

[dimwit]

If you put someone on your FG ignore list they are unable to PM you. New accounts also do not get PM privileges until they have been mod-approved.

FG hasn't been accepting new members for a number of months now due to the recent spam attack.

As for why Tokyo Joe was banned only the mods can say tell you for sure, but my feeling was that the infamous three were so constantly posting that FG was becoming unreadable and consequently, a number of regular members had stopped posting.

[gaijinpunch]

Do any of you economy buffs have stats on spending in cuntries with high sales tax/VAT compared to Japan? I think the main gripe, to paint it vanilla, is that a raise in tax will curb spending, which is going to ass fuck an economy in recession (never mind 20 year recession).

I've always had this image of Japanese as being mega-frugal (when it comes to luxuries) due to low wages and high cost of living. I have no stats though.

[dimwit]

Do any of you economy buffs have stats on spending in cuntries with high sales tax/VAT compared to Japan? I think the main gripe, to paint it vanilla, is that a raise in tax will curb spending, which is going to ass fuck an economy in recession (never mind 20 year recession).

I've always had this image of Japanese as being mega-frugal (when it comes to luxuries) due to low wages and high cost of living. I have no stats though.

The last time they increased the consumption tax back, in 1996 during the Hashimoto administration, there was a short term boom in large ticket items such as applicances before the tax increase came into effect, followed by a slump that lasted 1-2 years. The political fallout however was much worse. It caused the Hashimoto to lose the subsequent election, forced his resignation and was a major contributing factor to the downfall of the LDP

[cstaylor]

Also, IIRC, those sales taxes aren't just retailer->consumer; they exist along the entire sales chain. Since Japan's method of wholesale-to-retail distribution resembles a welfare state, the consumer will probably see a 20% increase in the price of goods, or we can expect a lot of mom and pop stores to close as their profits get squeezed even more.

[rooboy]

I'm not fucking serious.

Tokyo Joe's about as clever as McTojo...fair crack of the whip, have to say Tokyo Joe is more clever than McTojo and that sucks deep fried dog's balls cause Tokyo Joe scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

He rocks as much as a 90 yr old ObaJukujo pinned under McTojo's weight would......if he was getting sex in real life instead of w/ the blowup doll.

[FG Lurker]

[quote="cstaylor"]Also, IIRC, those sales taxes aren't just retailer->consumer]
It doesn't work that way.

When a company buys something they pay the 5% tax on what they buy. They then sell that to someone else (be that another company or a consumer) and they collect the 5% tax. They pay only the difference between the two amounts.

So, let's say ABC KK buys something for 10000yen, so they pay 10500yen including tax. They then sell that same item for 12000yen plus tax, 12600 total. They pay the tax office 100yen, the difference between the 600yen they collected and the 500yen they already paid. It's a type of VAT (Value Added Tax), you only pay tax on the amount of value you added to the product at your point along the supply chain.

Edit: The consumer is of course the one that gets really screwed as they pay the whole whack (5%) and get nothing back. Consumption taxes are also quite unfair for the poor as it is a tax that gets applied to pretty much their entire income, almost all of which is spent on necessities.

[cstaylor]

It doesn't work that way.

When a company buys something they pay the 5% tax on what they buy. They then sell that to someone else (be that another company or a consumer) and they collect the 5% tax. They pay only the difference between the two amounts.

You mean they prepay the 5%. Unless you're in a high-volume market, there's a gap between when you buy and when you sell. The wholesalers have a compressed time from VAT paid to VAT collected, but not at the distributor or reseller level.

30/60 days net paid means you have to carry that additional 5% until you collect on your accounts. What about returned unsold merchandise? You're basically floating the government a 5% loan until you settle things.

(I'm not a tax accountant, so maybe the sales taxes are only reported yearly?)

Edit: The consumer is of course the one that gets really screwed as they pay the whole whack (5%) and get nothing back. Consumption taxes are also quite unfair for the poor as it is a tax that gets applied to pretty much their entire income, almost all of which is spent on necessities.

Yes, that's why Noda is MINO (Minshuto in Name Only). A complete tool for the ministries.

[FG Lurker]

[cstaylor]

[FG Lurker]

[cstaylor]

Which brings us back to Hashimoto... You may not like him (and I don't like all aspects of him) but he is definitely different to the establishment.

That sounds strangely familiar. At the risk of Godwining this thread, I wonder if the same thought went through Hindenburg's head?

[FG Lurker]

That sounds strangely familiar. At the risk of Godwining this thread, I wonder if the same thought went through Hindenburg's head?

I have no idea at all what you are trying to say...

[cstaylor]

I have no idea at all what you are trying to say...

"Better the Nazis than the Communists..." a different plan doesn't mean it's better.

[BigInJapan]

I have no idea at all what you are trying to say...

"Better the Nazis than the Communists..." a different plan doesn't mean it's better. Today 04:13 PM

That sounds strangely familiar. At the risk of Godwining this thread, I wonder if the same thought went through Hindenburg's head?

I've obviously spent too much time on reddit.com as I knew what it means without having to look it up. Godwinning means that sooner or later, a thread will invariably mention Hitler or Nazis.

[Russell]

I've obviously spent too much time on reddit.com as I knew what it means without having to look it up. Godwinning means that sooner or later, a thread will invariably mention Hitler or Nazis.

Then most threads on FG do not obey Godwin's law.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Then most threads on FG do not obey Godwin's law.

Fucking Nazis...

[Iraira]

Then most threads on FG do not obey Godwin's law.

Most threads on FG obey Greji's Law....

[Russell]

Most threads on FG obey Greji's Law....

Let me guess what that law is.

Greji's law: "As a FG thread grows longer, the probability of goats being mentioned approaches one."

There is a tradition on FG that, once this occurs, the thread takes on a new life, and whoever mentioned the goats has automatically won, whatever argument was in progress. Greiji's law thus practically guarantees the lack of an upper bound on the length of the threads on FG.

Correct me if this definition is wrong.

[IparryU]

Let me guess what that law is.

Greji's law: "As a FG thread grows longer, the probability of goats being mentioned approaches one."

There is a tradition on FG that, once this occurs, the thread takes on a new life, and whoever mentioned the goats has automatically won, whatever argument was in progress. Greiji's law thus practically guarantees the lack of an upper bound on the length of the threads on FG.

Correct me if this definition is wrong.

[FG Lurker]

"Better the Nazis than the Communists..." a different plan doesn't mean it's better.

Because everyone not agreeable must be a nazi or a communist...

[cstaylor]

[quote="FG Lurker"]Because everyone not agreeable must be a nazi or a communist... ]
Pre-WW2 capitalists in England and Germany preferred the Nazis to the Communists coming to power in Weimar Germany. Those few outside the mainstream like Churchill were ridiculed for speaking out against Hitler.

But we're getting off track, since the Hashists don't have a chance on the national stage. He should just do to Osaka what Ishihara has done to Tokyo: siphon off public funds for his own personal gain.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

Let me guess what that law is.

Greji's law: "As a FG thread grows longer, the probability of goats being mentioned approaches one."

There is a tradition on FG that, once this occurs, the thread takes on a new life, and whoever mentioned the goats has automatically won, whatever argument was in progress. Greiji's law thus practically guarantees the lack of an upper bound on the length of the threads on FG.

Correct me if this definition is wrong.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Russell again.

[Iraira]

Could we invoke a sub-clause of Greji's Law to terminate discussion of a tiresome thread, such as when some troll continuously spews garbage past the point of being entertainment, i.e., "All you Tokyolios are going to die from radiation poisoning...blah blah blah"?

[FG Lurker]

But we're getting off track, since the Hashists

don't have a chance on the national stage.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. I'm not sure if it would be a good thing or not but considering the LDP is still out of favor and the DPJ has proved to be little more than the LDP in different clothes people will be looking for something different. The DPJ managed to get themselves elected, anything is possible.

He should just do to Osaka what Ishihara has done to Tokyo: siphon off public funds for his own personal gain.

Don't project Tokyo's fuckups onto Osaka, we have enough problems of our own already.