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Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:28 pm

Japan court says requiring same surname in marriage is legal

Japan's Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that requiring married couples to have the same surname is constitutional, dealing a blow to a longtime effort for gender equality in choosing names.

The law does not say which partner must give up his or her name in marriage. In practice it has almost always been the woman who took the husband's name. Some women say that is unfair and they feel as though their identity is lost.

In traditional marriage, one person, usually the woman, enters the household of the partner and is registered as a member of that household. Men are seen as more powerful in Japanese traditional culture. But as women increasingly have careers, some argue that changing surnames is confusing.


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In a separate case, the Supreme Court ruled that prohibiting women from remarrying for six months is unconstitutional.

The thinking behind that requirement was to prevent a woman who was possibly pregnant by one man from marrying a different person.

The court said that was outdated because of advances in science, such as DNA testing, that provide proof of the biological parent, Tomoshi Sakka, a lawyer for that case, told reporters outside the courtroom.

"The policy degraded women, and this is a step toward gender equality," he said.

The court found that a ban on remarrying exceeding 100 days was excessive. Sakka said he was optimistic that the change would be extended to less than 100 days in parliamentary discussions.
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:35 pm

Ooook. That was so weird it was cool.

From the FG thread: DPJ To OK Separate Surnames For Married Couples
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Japanese Top Court Upholds Law Requiring Spouses to Share Surname
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby matsuki » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:53 pm

How does that apply to kokusaikekkon?
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:11 pm

this point was already discussed among j-intellctuals a long time ago.
kimche version separate surname is not a effect from feminism but one from extreme female discrimination(complete-oppositely! :mrgreen: ) deriving from their traditional family system in which woman is not regarded as a member of the husband family and woman is nothing more than a "birth machine" to give her husband family a son.
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:11 pm

Matsuki,
It doesn't.

Is it just me or is obsessively comparing Korean society to Japanese like me comparing Canada to, well, ........Romania or Burundi? I find that funnier than how fucked up his logic is about the right to choose your own surname in a developed country.
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby Russell » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:12 pm

matsuki wrote:How does that apply to kokusaikekkon?

For kokusaikekkon the woman has more freedoms. My wife took a double name consisting of my family name followed by her family name, as to the Dutch tradition.

Under Japanese law the children will be given the family name of the woman, so my kids have a double name. Sometimes confusing, since some Dutch now assume that my 13 yo daughter is already married, and my son is female and married too...
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Postby matsuki » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:40 pm

I don't really find it as degrading to women, hell, if there are no sons, often time the husband takes the wife's family name....but the jiji/baba "if they don't all have the same family name, how will we know they're family?!" mindset that has gone as far as to be legislated. LOL reminds me of the horror the locals experience when a furriner tells them they don&t know their own blood type :roll: "but but but how will the doctors know what type of blood to give you?!" :-D To which their foundations may be shaken with "what if you're not conscious?? They do the same thing....check your blood, not take your word for it."
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:58 pm

matsuki wrote:I don't really find it as degrading to women, hell, if there are no sons, often time the husband takes the wife's family name....


Well, it's 96-4% women over men, so that does suggest an asymmetry not being addressed. Like you said though, the problem is that it is legally enforced. Most would still choose to share a name because most believe that's important, which is nice, but the ones that would rather not shouldn't have to, and shouldn't have to resort to clever back door fixes like the Registered Legal Alias trick they use to keep their maiden names for work. Once a woman is out of furry boots and cosplay wearing age she has an identity that includes her own name. As you noted, lots of people need to be told to FO and mind their own fuckin busybodiness, and this is a perfect and very worthy opportunity. The ones that really get me are the Troglowhite FGs that vehemently insist their wives change their name to Glockenspielenmeister, or even Arudou. Or give their born and raised in Japan children goofy Western Heritage Names because it was their hillbilly granpappy's baptismal name, or some such crap. That's just cruel narcissism.

BTW, I don't know my blood type either. It started out innocently enough, but now it's a mission. Just Say No!!!!!!!! :biggrin2:
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby yanpa » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:44 am

I just say "red".
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Postby Russell » Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:51 am

yanpa wrote:I just say "red".

That makes you not so rare...
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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby Coligny » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:34 am

yanpa wrote:I just say "red".


Mine is "Nutella" according to my vet...

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Re: Back in the house b*tch! (J-Wify wants it that way)

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:04 am

Coligny wrote:
yanpa wrote:I just say "red".


Mine is "Nutella" according to my vet...

I've been a really bad kitteh...


I usually say olive oil or butter.
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