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Russell wrote:Is it registered somewhere who borrowed those books?
J.A.F.O wrote:[After thought] ya know nowadays if I said that I would probably be charged with some kinda antisemitic hate crime...
Yokohammer wrote:Anti-semitism in Japan? That seems a little far fetched too.
Yokohammer wrote:Choko ... oh c'mon. A photo from the 1930's?
When did you last see or hear of any kind of anti-semite movement in Japan?
You occasionally hear rehashes of the "Jews control the world economy" theories, but I have not personally come across any racism that explicitly targets Jews (just foreigners in general, although it's mostly aimed at other Asians).
chokonen888 wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Choko ... oh c'mon. A photo from the 1930's?
When did you last see or hear of any kind of anti-semite movement in Japan?
You occasionally hear rehashes of the "Jews control the world economy" theories, but I have not personally come across any racism that explicitly targets Jews (just foreigners in general, although it's mostly aimed at other Asians).
Not saying it's anything widespread but are you really saying it's hard to believe a group of Japanese could be guilty of this type of war crime denial and have a racial superiority complex? Of course it could just be some idiot FG or single Japanese here with a chip on their shoulder...just saying I wouldn't discount any theory.
Russell wrote:My theory is that it's a right-wing J-nut who got pissed off at Germany's comments about the sex slave issue...
Yokohammer wrote:Russell wrote:My theory is that it's a right-wing J-nut who got pissed off at Germany's comments about the sex slave issue...
That doesn't make sense.
If someone is pissed off with Germany they wouldn't deface Anne Frank work.
Russell wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Russell wrote:My theory is that it's a right-wing J-nut who got pissed off at Germany's comments about the sex slave issue...
That doesn't make sense.
If someone is pissed off with Germany they wouldn't deface Anne Frank work.
The remark by Germany's officials was something like "Germany has dealt better with the holocaust than Japan has with the sex slave issue". This may have focused the attention to holocaust victims just to get back at Germany.
Does it sound irrational? Sure it does.
But we are talking right-wing J-nuts here...
Yokohammer wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Choko ... oh c'mon. A photo from the 1930's?
When did you last see or hear of any kind of anti-semite movement in Japan?
You occasionally hear rehashes of the "Jews control the world economy" theories, but I have not personally come across any racism that explicitly targets Jews (just foreigners in general, although it's mostly aimed at other Asians).
Not saying it's anything widespread but are you really saying it's hard to believe a group of Japanese could be guilty of this type of war crime denial and have a racial superiority complex? Of course it could just be some idiot FG or single Japanese here with a chip on their shoulder...just saying I wouldn't discount any theory.
You're shifting the goalposts.
I said nothing about war crime denial or racial superiority complexes. I did mention racism against foreigners in general.
I said I think that anti-semitism as a motive is unlikely.
And I asked whether you had heard or seen any examples of anti-semitism in Japan, specifically.
kurogane wrote:I have always been befuzzled by the huge undercurrent in all walks of life of mostly very casual anti-semitism in Japan, especially amongst stupid Japanese with intellectual or cosmopolitan pretensions. I have had innumerable people try to impress me with their knowledge of Our Attitudes towards The Jews. I always defend them, or at least discredit the crackpot theories and have had a few very disappointed drunks and a couple of very angry ones on my hands for it. The popularity of Elders of Zion conspiracy theories, the contempt and disgust most Japanese always feel for any victim, esp. a vocal one, and the old Cheap stereotype are all readily on display in virtually every place and situation I have ever been in Japan.
I find it befuzzling simply because, like YokoH seems to think, the whole issue is so utterly irrelevant to anything Japanese. Casual it might be, but invisible or nonexistent it is not.
At 280 books, it's probably a cell of very dedicated and indescribably sad nimrods looking to fly their flag.
Yokohammer wrote: I'm actually quite disappointed to hear this.
kurogane wrote: ... Also, I can't remember if it was you I said it to before, but I admire and envy that sort of well insulated bubble you have constructed for yourself. I was never quite able to find the right insulation, and if I had I think I might have been more eager to stay. I really did have a sugary sweet situation jobwise, but the rest of it just never seemed quite worth it and I come from a pretty beeyotchin' place that is easy to come home to. ...
kurogane wrote:
Also, I can't remember if it was you I said it to before, but I admire and envy that sort of well insulated bubble you have constructed for yourself. I was never quite able to find the right insulation, and if I had I think I might have been more eager to stay. I really did have a sugary sweet situation jobwise, but the rest of it just never seemed quite worth it and I come from a pretty beeyotchin' place that is easy to come home to.
Protect that bubble, boy. And be Righteous Among Nations when you can.
kurogane wrote:Yeah, I left several years ago, did a half and half thing for a few years, but lately I seem to go there for 3 months at a time, largely due to The Visa Thing, which I don't have one of. I was there for about half of 25 years, starting as a repeat WHV'er in 1987, before moving onto academic work.
To be clear, I do like it there, esp. Okinawa and Kyoto, and I do like Them. Enough so, or so I say, that I see no need to explain away every freak and foible with apologetic cultural explanations, which I find condescending and demeaning to them as a civilised people in their own right. I prefer acerbically affectionate observations, though They sure don't. They are the most Alien of First Worlders compared to our eurocentric places, which is pretty cool, especially from an anthropological perspective.
And I really, really like TonkAtsu (the pig, not the noodles)
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Hammer, there's a pretty strong strain of anti-Semitism in the Japanese media. Remember Marco Polo, the magazine shut down for running Holocaust denial articles? Or the frequent lectures on racial tolerance that the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Rabbi Abraham Cooper gives the likes of Shukan Post or the Nikkei for running anti-Semitic material? Japanese mainstream media is not averse to printing batshit crazy stuff about Jewish conspiracy material of the like that makes even Benjamin Fulford appear lucid. Let's not forget Japan's contribution to the Lod Airport Massacre, albeit more than 40 years ago now. But, probably due to energy concerns, Japan's Middle East diplomacy has generally focused on closer ties with the non-democratic, sexist, archaic theocracies or dictatorships than it has with the free and democratically elected governments of Israel.
Therefore....it would not come as a total surprise to learn the perpetrator is a Japanese anti-Semite.
Though not on the scale of French or Dutch who rounded up Jews for slaughter to make them look more attractive in the eyes of their German masters, there was an continues to be an element of Japanese society that can be fiercely anti-Semitic. Listen to some of the talk in financial circles. Or the entertainment world. Mind you, Japan can also boast of trying to resettle threatened people in China and saintly types like Chiune Sugihara showing support for Jews in defiance of their alliance with the Germans, which the likes of collaborationist France or the Netherlands showed no sign of doing.
kurogane wrote:Now, assuming Choko and I are speaking about similar things....I have sort of looked at it as a pathetic attempt to display knowledge of foreigners or Foreign Country, combined with that peculiar Japanese affection for shitsimple conspiracy theoories that victimise an easy target. They are a rather cruel people at heart, after all, even though very many of them are also adult enough to control that proclivity.
Coligny wrote:And our countryside bum is back on duty...
Coligny wrote:We didn't round up the Jews to please the Germans, we rounded up the jews because we hated the jews by ourselves.
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Hammer, there's a pretty strong strain of anti-Semitism in the Japanese media. Remember Marco Polo, the magazine shut down for running Holocaust denial articles? Or the frequent lectures on racial tolerance that the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Rabbi Abraham Cooper gives the likes of Shukan Post or the Nikkei for running anti-Semitic material? Japanese mainstream media is not averse to printing batshit crazy stuff about Jewish conspiracy material of the like that makes even Benjamin Fulford appear lucid. Let's not forget Japan's contribution to the Lod Airport Massacre, albeit more than 40 years ago now. But, probably due to energy concerns, Japan's Middle East diplomacy has generally focused on closer ties with the non-democratic, sexist, archaic theocracies or dictatorships than it has with the free and democratically elected governments of Israel.
Therefore....it would not come as a total surprise to learn the perpetrator is a Japanese anti-Semite.
Though not on the scale of French or Dutch who rounded up Jews for slaughter to make them look more attractive in the eyes of their German masters, there was an continues to be an element of Japanese society that can be fiercely anti-Semitic. Listen to some of the talk in financial circles. Or the entertainment world. Mind you, Japan can also boast of trying to resettle threatened people in China and saintly types like Chiune Sugihara showing support for Jews in defiance of their alliance with the Germans, which the likes of collaborationist France or the Netherlands showed no sign of doing.
Took me a second to realize you were referring to me and not yourself then because I'm so unaccustomed to having to wade through your bullshit to decipher the meaning and you caught me out by writing clearly.
Gathering by the number of times the French have readily accepted the German faust
Unfortunately the overwhelming trend among the foreign community seems to be to focus only on what's wrong and nitpick incessantly.
Coligny wrote:You have stats or should I dumpster dive them out of your ass by myself ?
Coligny wrote:But it's cute when penal colonies escapees show their envy toward colonial empires with a glorious history by highlighting one of their few hiccups. Even if it start looking a bit like an obsession...
Coligny wrote:At least you got a catchy tagline "Welcome to australia, where everything wants to kill you"
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