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chokonen888 wrote:Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:So what is supporting the panels if it's not the hooks?
They are sitting on top of each other.
Is the bottom panel on the ground/foundation where it can soak up water? So to replace one, you have to first remove all panels above? (Sorry, I'm just not understanding the ingeniousness of this setup)
chokonen888 wrote:Looks like a shitty repair job...those nails don't look that old AND the painted ones look like they weren't there with the original paint. That being said, I doubt the builder will help you out so you filling in all the gaps with something that might last a little longer than silly-cone is in order.
chibaka wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
That photo reminded me of something I've always wondered. What's the deal in Japan with not building steps or a step to sliding glass doors?
Samurai_Jerk wrote:chibaka wrote:
That photo reminded me of something I've always wondered. What's the deal in Japan with not building steps or a step to sliding glass doors?
Taro Toporific wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:chibaka wrote:
That photo reminded me of something I've always wondered. What's the deal in Japan with not building steps or a step to sliding glass doors?
Like so many Japanese construction fuckups (wallpaper fetish, intentionally drafty windows, etc.), it's a vestigial cultural problem: In this case, the engawa.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Engawa
Taro Toporific wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:chibaka wrote:
That photo reminded me of something I've always wondered. What's the deal in Japan with not building steps or a step to sliding glass doors?
Like so many Japanese construction fuckups (wallpaper fetish, intentionally drafty windows, etc.), it's a vestigial cultural problem: In this case, the engawa.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Engawa
Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:So what is supporting the panels if it's not the hooks?
They are sitting on top of each other.
Is the bottom panel on the ground/foundation where it can soak up water? So to replace one, you have to first remove all panels above? (Sorry, I'm just not understanding the ingeniousness of this setup)
Yes, basically. The bottom panel rests on a support secured to the dwarf wall that is part of the foundation. There is a small air gap there to allow ventilation under the house.The next slots into it and is further secured/supported by hooks. How much load the hooks bear I am not sure but it looked like not much when they were building ours.
I don't think that soaking up water is a problem as it is a good third of a metre or so above ground level. However, you are right. If you want to replace a panel you will have to remove all the panels above it first after cutting away all the silicone seals.
chibaka wrote:I'll get some this week, corners need attention too... spend half my time in Cainz Home
chokonen888 wrote:Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:So what is supporting the panels if it's not the hooks?
They are sitting on top of each other.
Is the bottom panel on the ground/foundation where it can soak up water? So to replace one, you have to first remove all panels above? (Sorry, I'm just not understanding the ingeniousness of this setup)
Yes, basically. The bottom panel rests on a support secured to the dwarf wall that is part of the foundation. There is a small air gap there to allow ventilation under the house.The next slots into it and is further secured/supported by hooks. How much load the hooks bear I am not sure but it looked like not much when they were building ours.
I don't think that soaking up water is a problem as it is a good third of a metre or so above ground level. However, you are right. If you want to replace a panel you will have to remove all the panels above it first after cutting away all the silicone seals.
Ahhhhh, now I understand.....but as Taro ranted on in the cement box thread, for all the cement they use here, they still don't do things properly. Cement soaks up water so that third of a meter stem wall you got isn't going to help., it is a problem UNLESS they put some sort of water barrier between it and those panels. (which I doubt)
Taro Toporific wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:chibaka wrote:
That photo reminded me of something I've always wondered. What's the deal in Japan with not building steps or a step to sliding glass doors?
Like so many Japanese construction fuckups (wallpaper fetish, intentionally drafty windows, etc.), it's a vestigial cultural problem: In this case, the engawa.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Engawa
Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Wage Slave wrote:chokonen888 wrote:So what is supporting the panels if it's not the hooks?
They are sitting on top of each other.
Is the bottom panel on the ground/foundation where it can soak up water? So to replace one, you have to first remove all panels above? (Sorry, I'm just not understanding the ingeniousness of this setup)
Yes, basically. The bottom panel rests on a support secured to the dwarf wall that is part of the foundation. There is a small air gap there to allow ventilation under the house.The next slots into it and is further secured/supported by hooks. How much load the hooks bear I am not sure but it looked like not much when they were building ours.
I don't think that soaking up water is a problem as it is a good third of a metre or so above ground level. However, you are right. If you want to replace a panel you will have to remove all the panels above it first after cutting away all the silicone seals.
Ahhhhh, now I understand.....but as Taro ranted on in the cement box thread, for all the cement they use here, they still don't do things properly. Cement soaks up water so that third of a meter stem wall you got isn't going to help., it is a problem UNLESS they put some sort of water barrier between it and those panels. (which I doubt)
The panels are not in direct contact with the concrete. They lie about a cm outside it if that makes sense. That's where the ventilation for under the house comes from.There is also an aluminium skirt at the top of the concrete to direct water away and to prevent it coming up.
the next question I'd be asking is "what is in direct contact with the cement?" (If you ever have the chance, you should check if they used anything)
Wage Slave wrote:the next question I'd be asking is "what is in direct contact with the cement?" (If you ever have the chance, you should check if they used anything)
I had a look at my pictures. You can't really see it properly but there are some black plastic blocks between the top of the concrete wall and the timber bottom of the frame. The siding is about to go on next and it is about a cm outside the the concrete and overlaps it by a few cms.
Wage Slave wrote:Yes damage can be done when driving nails without pilot holes into this kind of siding but these pictures show evidence of movement. If that movement is not active, eg a quake in the past, then fine. Repair and carry on but if the movement is active, then there's a problem.
Choko, I'm curious. How would you use thinset to fix siding to the frame of a house?
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