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chokonen888 wrote:Holy softcream shaped shit...that's pretty fucking bad.
chokonen888 wrote:but from what I've heard from both men and women here, the image of those 97% J-men is "dirtly old loser men who can't get a Japanese wife so they take a Philippina or Chinese bride from a snack or hostess club." (Which I guess would be embarrassing for the MOFA to illustrate??) I guess it's not reasonable to think any of those 97% J-dudes just simply met their wife when travelling/working abroad?
wagyl wrote:chokonen888 wrote:but from what I've heard from both men and women here, the image of those 97% J-men is "dirtly old loser men who can't get a Japanese wife so they take a Philippina or Chinese bride from a snack or hostess club." (Which I guess would be embarrassing for the MOFA to illustrate??) I guess it's not reasonable to think any of those 97% J-dudes just simply met their wife when travelling/working abroad?
To be fair, of all the Japanese male/South East or East Asian female other than devilish hidden sankokujin couples I am aware of, almost all are "she used to work at a Snack I went to" or mail order. I do remember one where they met when both were studying English overseas. Not to say that the other scenario is impossible, but I think it might be rare.
chokonen888 wrote:I mean, almost the entire booklet is focused on "the 3%" white male/Japanese female marriages. The one part that isn't is a J-d00d with a French wife? WTF? Kinda crazy that they'd ignore the other 97% scenario but from what I've heard from both men and women here, the image of those 97% J-men is "dirtly old loser men who can't get a Japanese wife so they take a Philippina or Chinese bride from a snack or hostess club." (Which I guess would be embarrassing for the MOFA to illustrate??) I guess it's not reasonable to think any of those 97% J-dudes just simply met their wife when travelling/working abroad?
havill wrote:Perhaps the reason they're not focusing on the statistical majority makeup of international marriages in Japan is because the majority of those people have nationalities whose country has not signed on to the Hague C on child abduction.
Talking to these people about their options with Hague is a little moot if they don't have that legal option.
chokonen888 wrote: What is with all the reinforcement of "Us vs. Hakujin" complex lately?
havill wrote:chokonen888 wrote:I mean, almost the entire booklet is focused on "the 3%" white male/Japanese female marriages. The one part that isn't is a J-d00d with a French wife? WTF? Kinda crazy that they'd ignore the other 97% scenario but from what I've heard from both men and women here, the image of those 97% J-men is "dirtly old loser men who can't get a Japanese wife so they take a Philippina or Chinese bride from a snack or hostess club." (Which I guess would be embarrassing for the MOFA to illustrate??) I guess it's not reasonable to think any of those 97% J-dudes just simply met their wife when travelling/working abroad?
Perhaps the reason they're not focusing on the statistical majority makeup of international marriages in Japan is because the majority of those people have nationalities whose country has not signed on to the Hague C on child abduction.
Talking to these people about their options with Hague is a little moot if they don't have that legal option.
kurogane wrote:chokonen888 wrote: What is with all the reinforcement of "Us vs. Hakujin" complex lately?
Yeah, I had a great visit, but even allowing for the 2 Years Out & Rusty effect, the level of defensive offense really struck me. I couldn't believe the number of times I was asked pointedly abusive questions in a seemingly friendly tone (or is that maybe a Tokyo thing?). They are really back on the You Call Us Yellow Monkey horsey. I do disagree with Wage Slave's reply to this quote of yours. It's not so much that there's no progress as that there's serious and obviously strategic regression. That crap is way worse than anything that passed as offensive BS under Koizumi, etc.
That pamphlet would bring down an absolute shiitestorm in any other first world country. Freaky assed paranoid shiite, that. Boo.
wagyl wrote:Fucking racist illustration!
chokonen888 wrote:wagyl wrote:Fucking racist illustration!
How so?
chokonen888 wrote:Hong Kong and Macau signed back in the late 90's
havill wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Hong Kong and Macau signed back in the late 90's
TL;DR: very few Hong Kong and Macau citizens, male or female, marry Japanese compared to those from mainland China & Taiwan.
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As per "One country, two systems"*, the Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare counts the stats for Hong Kong and Macau separately.
wagyl wrote:Wagyl is nuts.
wagyl wrote:Still nobody offers an explanation as to why one illustration is shout to the hills racist, and the other is "how can that be racist." It is a serious (and stone cold sober) question. What are the differences between them? Where is the line drawn? My challenge to you is, find the flaw, if one exists, in my two mirroring descriptions as to why the illustrations are racist.
I'm hoping that the answer is not "because the target looks like me."
wagyl wrote:"fear of being surrounded by people who don't look like you."
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