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matsuki wrote:Scully looks haggard!
matsuki wrote:Coligny wrote:kurogane wrote:To be fair, it is rare I have met much of a man that will date an older woman............
Nice sentiment, btw, there Wagyl. I sincerely hope that is what happened. Anyways, a shame, but we all know to keep our traps shut, he probably did too, and surely he could get 7-10 fjust or that?
Plus, we know his name
Diana Rigg
Helen Mirren
Gilian Anderson
dib
dib
dib...
Take them....take them all!!
Have you seen the new X-files? Scully looks haggard!
kurogane wrote:but we all know to keep our traps shut, he probably did too
and surely he could get 7-10 fjust or that?
Wage Slave wrote:Isn't this charge more to do with procedure? At a certain point, even here, you have to either charge someone or release them. So, in order to keep him in custody they charge him with abandoning a body because they are very sure that charge will hold up in court with the evidence they already have. And it is sufficient to keep him locked away for plenty long enough to complete the investigation. Once they have more details, they can charge him with murder or manslaughter as they see fit. And time is on their side.
The danger with going straight to a murder charge without all their ducks in a row is he might be able to get off on a technicality.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Come to think of it how can he be charged with abandoning a corpse if she was alive at the time? Also, if his goal wasn't murder, why did he think she was dead? Is the defense claiming she ODed on her own and he panicked and dumped the body for some reason?
Samurai_Jerk wrote:I guess one could argue he intended to abandon a corpse and that's the point not whether or not she was actually dead.
wagyl wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:I guess one could argue he intended to abandon a corpse and that's the point not whether or not she was actually dead.
That would give rise to issues of criminal impossibility -- it was impossible for him to abandon a corpse because there was no corpse there -- and there is enough margin to argue the legal effect of that either way in Japan. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8D ... D%E7%8A%AF Greg is in for the long haul through the justice process.
Circumstances
Two enlisted military men, Thomas and McClellan, were spending an evening drinking in bars. In one bar McClellan began dancing with a young woman who was drunk and soon collapsed in his arms on the dance floor. The defendants put the woman in McClellan's car, having agreed at the bar to take her home. Once in the car McClellan suggested they use the opportunity to rape her as she was unconscious and would not know the difference. Each defendant then proceeded to have sexual intercourse with the woman. Later, after being unable to find the location of her home, they became concerned about her condition as she had not regained consciousness, so they sought help at a service station. The service station attendant called the police, who determined she was dead. An autopsy conducted later ascertained that she died of a heart condition, "acute interstitial myocarditis". The general undisputed opinion was that her death most likely occurred at the time of her collapse. The two defendants were not aware of her death.[1]
The defendants used the "impossibility" defense, claiming that it was legally impossible to attempt to rape a woman who was dead.[2]
Decisions
The United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces held that when a defendant is attempting to commit a criminal act, it is not a defense that facts unknown to the defendant made the actual completion of the crime impossible. The defendants believed that the young woman was alive and had not consented to have sex.[3] Because the men believed they were raping a drunken, unconscious woman, they were guilty of attempted rape even though the woman was actually dead at the time sexual intercourse took place.[2]
wagyl wrote:Hey that is not so bad. I am sure that the body was still close to lukewarm.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Who knew it was illegal to fuck a passed out drunk chick in 1962?
Wage Slave wrote:Isn't this charge more to do with procedure?
kurogane wrote:It would be ironic if he didn't kill her and really did panic and dump the body, and even funnier if they could prove murder anyways.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:kurogane wrote:but we all know to keep our traps shut, he probably did too
I wonder if it's harder to break Americans since the right to remain silent is drilled into us from a young age.and surely he could get 7-10 fjust or that?
Don't be so sure. Remember the case of Hiroshi Nozaki who only got three-and-a-half years for dismembering and abandoning the body of a Filipina only to get out of jail and do it again? Of course this time it's a foreigner dumping a Japanese body.
legion wrote:
Yeah, that case comes to mind.
Also Joji Obara, who initially got away with murdering Carita Ridgway and then went on to murder Lucie Blackman.
kurogane wrote:Yes, that is what I was saying, but you have Out-Sherlocked me. I had forgotten that he had bought the homemade body bag stuff beforehand. Guilty it is, then. I would laugh even at a wrongful conviction simply for his Nancy Boy response even if he hadn't actually killed her and did just dump the body. Panic and confuusion I get. That level of callous calculation I don't. But the possession of the body wrap pretty much throws the innocence option overboard, doesn't it?
Coligny wrote:matsuki wrote:Coligny wrote:kurogane wrote:To be fair, it is rare I have met much of a man that will date an older woman............
Nice sentiment, btw, there Wagyl. I sincerely hope that is what happened. Anyways, a shame, but we all know to keep our traps shut, he probably did too, and surely he could get 7-10 fjust or that?
Plus, we know his name
Diana Rigg
Helen Mirren
Gilian Anderson
dib
dib
dib...
Take them....take them all!!
Have you seen the new X-files? Scully looks haggard!
Both characters look 1 step away from blowing up their brains on the walls.
I don't see a possible positive outcome to William's backstory...
“In a misguided belief that Akitaya was dead, Gumo, the defendant, dumped her body in the ocean while she was unconscious,” the side of the prosecution said.
Coligny wrote:kurogane wrote:To be fair, it is rare I have met much of a man that will date an older woman............
Nice sentiment, btw, there Wagyl. I sincerely hope that is what happened. Anyways, a shame, but we all know to keep our traps shut, he probably did too, and surely he could get 7-10 fjust or that?
Plus, we know his name
Diana Rigg
Helen Mirren
Gilian Anderson
dib
dib
dib...
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