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chibaka wrote:I heard from a friend last week that her father got stung, not with the "it's me" fraud, but someone calling to "sell investments". These investments apparently offered great returns, and naturally, it was the last day of the offer so must act fast. Bye bye millions of yen.
(I think 10.....)
He also got caught by someone claiming to be buying unwanted clothes for charity. He agreed and offered some old tat, only to be told/encouraged that his offering wasn't enough. By the end of the conversation (on his doorstep) he had handed over clothes, jewelry, watches etc, received a very small payment, and off went the con man.
In his defense he's 84, but hell, this is happening way too often, is no-one aware of this?
Salty wrote:Apparently she will not be out the full 5.5m, as there is an insurance program for fraud victims that will return as much as 30% of her loss.
chibaka wrote:this is happening way too often, is no-one aware of this?
Takechanpoo wrote:if you have dotardy almost-dimentia parents, brothers or relatives, just cancel the contract of landline phone.
and they can not do the fraud. plain and simple
jiji and baba still use landline phone.
By the end of the conversation (on his doorstep) he had handed over clothes, jewelry, watches etc, received a very small payment, and off went the con man.
Takechanpoo wrote:if you have dotardy almost-dimentia parents, brothers or relatives, just cancel the contract of landline phone.
and they can not do the fraud. plain and simple
jiji and baba still use landline phone.
matsuki wrote:Not Japan but my father has fallen victim twice in the past year to cold calling scams claiming to be charities...they take down your credit card info for "payment." Both times, my mother was able to cancel the card before anything happened but it's a huge hassle and stress to deal with.
Coligny wrote:matsuki wrote:Not Japan but my father has fallen victim twice in the past year to cold calling scams claiming to be charities...they take down your credit card info for "payment." Both times, my mother was able to cancel the card before anything happened but it's a huge hassle and stress to deal with.
Does she also tie his shoes for him in the morning ?
matsuki wrote:My guess is he was boozin at the time of the calls but either way, I think his brain cell count is down since he retired so it's only a matter of time before he needs someone to tie his shoes. Meanwhile, he's managing their rather significant investments....
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Wage Slave wrote:matsuki wrote:My guess is he was boozin at the time of the calls but either way, I think his brain cell count is down since he retired so it's only a matter of time before he needs someone to tie his shoes. Meanwhile, he's managing their rather significant investments....
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Warning signs left, right and centre. You guys have some important and difficult decisions to make. It is always much easier to get power of attorney while the person still has some residual capacity. Leave it till they are gone completely and it's much much harder in my experience. Don't delay would be my strong advice.
Takechanpoo wrote:in the case of mobile phone, they cant know the owners attributes.
they use old telephone directories to find their targets. especially ones registered by a womans name they DO like.
i dont think cancelling landline phone perfectly prevents from ore ore fraud, but you will can get certain effect.
dimwit wrote:You know, if people used a "Power of Attorney" with some of their senile oldies, it would reduce a large number of scams.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:dimwit wrote:You know, if people used a "Power of Attorney" with some of their senile oldies, it would reduce a large number of scams.
That's not necessarily an easy thing to do. Legally it can be tough when people are borderline. However, emotionally it can be even harder for people because their parents will often fight it tooth and nail and it can really damage relationships. When they're young everyone says they want their family to step in when the time comes but once they're actually at that point they can't accept reality.
dimwit wrote:........... we just told them to fuck off or we would go to the police. After that they stopped calling.
Coligny wrote:You guys are assuming the kids are not a threat on their own...
Chief villains on both counts are the baby boomers, attempting to extract what they deem to be their fair share of inheritance from elderly parents whose property prices have ballooned. The latest report from the KPMG fraud barometer – published a few weeks ago - revealed the value of relative upon relative fraud has jumped 300 per cent in a year from £2.1 million in the first six months of 2015 up from £544,000 in the same period in 2014. More than three quarters of culprits identified are over 45 and the vast majority of victims are their elderly parents.
Wage Slave wrote:Absolutely not. There's a real and growing problem with that too.Chief villains on both counts are the baby boomers, attempting to extract what they deem to be their fair share of inheritance from elderly parents whose property prices have ballooned. The latest report from the KPMG fraud barometer – published a few weeks ago - revealed the value of relative upon relative fraud has jumped 300 per cent in a year from £2.1 million in the first six months of 2015 up from £544,000 in the same period in 2014. More than three quarters of culprits identified are over 45 and the vast majority of victims are their elderly parents.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/11830091/The-Great-Baby-Boomer-Inheritance-Grab.html
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