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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby matsuki » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:00 pm

wagyl wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:Looking around somewhere like Hard Off has me shaking my head every time.

Only in Japan does that not raise a snigger.


...because everyone has their hard...off?

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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:12 pm

Coligny wrote:The wastebaskets with brick powersupplies is a godsend. I even found the exact japanese equivalent of a modem powersupply that i brought from france... Damn if i could remember the brand name... It was on of those big playa used for rtc access at local isps...

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Yep. The junk section can be a happy hunting ground for things like that, leads and remotes. Also got a great scanner for peanuts and a very good amplifier that just needed new power supply capacitors. If I ever need some decent utility speakers then that's the place to get them too. Also you can pick up computers for less than the cost of a new case. Pick a good one and you might well get a perfectly good HDD, cooler and power supply as well.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Russell » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:34 pm

Coligny wrote:
legion wrote:
Coligny wrote:
legion wrote:
Coligny wrote:How many fridges could you discard that way ?

Dumptruck 4 life...


if you pay, as many as you like


Not here...
You need to pay AND buy another appliance...


you don't have to buy another appliance, you just have to take it to the shop that sold it, if the shop is unknown or gone you can fill out a form



I'd be happy to move to the version of japan where you live. But in the big T, no purchase no old appliance retrieval. If you purchase you can give back up to 3 appliances for a fee depnding on their size/category.

Been there, done that...

In my city I just go to the post office to buy a ticket to recycle my appliance. This gives me the right to dispose of it at a designated recycle agent. Isn't that the system all over Japan?
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Coligny » Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:02 am

Can buy pickup ticket at the combini for bulky items pickup. Need to call for pickup appointment. 3 items per address per month max. Not for electric appliances.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Salty » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:23 am

K`s Denki, as well as the other large chain electronics/appliance stores will recycle appliances without a purchase – if you deliver to them. Since I do have a truck, I have never tested trying to get them to do a pick-up service, not associated with a purchase.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby legion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:34 pm

Yeah, I got rid of an old TV at our local kaden shop

Cost about as much as the TV did .........................

but I guess the alternative was dropping it on a baby dolphin's head in the COVE
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby inflames » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:58 pm

Could have simply just dumped it in the trash at a neighboring apartment complex.

Or, if in the countryside, just dropped it in an abandoned building.

Nitwits at the ward office told me I would have to pay 400 yen each and wait 3 weeks to get rid of two old, broken chairs (cheap Ikea - the backs on them broke). I simply just broke them up into smallish pieces (the biggest was the seat) and threw them out - they had no trouble taking them the next day, no payment required.

I remember years ago - throwing out anything useful (and even some crap) resulted in it being taken in the middle of the night.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Oct 29, 2015 3:55 pm

inflames wrote:Could have simply just dumped it in the trash at a neighboring apartment complex.

Or, if in the countryside, just dropped it in an abandoned building.

Nitwits at the ward office told me I would have to pay 400 yen each and wait 3 weeks to get rid of two old, broken chairs (cheap Ikea - the backs on them broke). I simply just broke them up into smallish pieces (the biggest was the seat) and threw them out - they had no trouble taking them the next day, no payment required.

I remember years ago - throwing out anything useful (and even some crap) resulted in it being taken in the middle of the night.


That's what I did with some cheap furniture back in the day. I didn't mind paying for the removal but I didn't have time to wait since I was leaving the country. Besides it was fun to destroy. I also ripped my futon up and stuffed it into some trash bags. That's not as easy to do with electrical appliances though. Especially when you live in an apartment.

Coligny, since you live in a compound with a big parking lot how about taking a sledge hammer to those things and putting the pieces out with the regular trash?
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:08 pm

The guideline around here is nothing longer than a metre if it's burnable rubbish, As long as it is they will happily take it away. Wood is easy enough to cut up.

For metal and "hard" plastic and glass they are less clear. They say as long as it is fairly easy to load on a truck they will take it away. So far I haven't had any problems getting rid of stuff like light fittings,some of which were quite big, bathroom sink, mirrors etc.

TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby wagyl » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:30 pm

True story: I know someone who took a chain saw to a washing machine to create pieces that would fit in the regulation rubbish bags.

They do things differently in the country.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby kurogane » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:47 pm

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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Russell » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:00 pm

Wage Slave wrote:The guideline around here is nothing longer than a metre if it's burnable rubbish, As long as it is they will happily take it away. Wood is easy enough to cut up.

For metal and "hard" plastic and glass they are less clear. They say as long as it is fairly easy to load on a truck they will take it away. So far I haven't had any problems getting rid of stuff like light fittings,some of which were quite big, bathroom sink, mirrors etc.

TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.

Why don't you ask at the post office?
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Salty » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:48 pm

Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:The guideline around here is nothing longer than a metre if it's burnable rubbish, As long as it is they will happily take it away. Wood is easy enough to cut up.

For metal and "hard" plastic and glass they are less clear. They say as long as it is fairly easy to load on a truck they will take it away. So far I haven't had any problems getting rid of stuff like light fittings,some of which were quite big, bathroom sink, mirrors etc.

TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.

Why don't you ask at the post office?


Erm - ask at the Ward Office...
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Russell » Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:53 pm

Salty wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:The guideline around here is nothing longer than a metre if it's burnable rubbish, As long as it is they will happily take it away. Wood is easy enough to cut up.

For metal and "hard" plastic and glass they are less clear. They say as long as it is fairly easy to load on a truck they will take it away. So far I haven't had any problems getting rid of stuff like light fittings,some of which were quite big, bathroom sink, mirrors etc.

TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.

Why don't you ask at the post office?


Erm - ask at the Ward Office...

That's the prime source of information, but in my city they then refer me to the post office, where I can buy a ticket to dispose of my stuff. I figured that may work in other cities too...
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby yanpa » Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:59 pm

There's an idea - chakubarai label with fake sender and recipient addresses...
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Russell » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:01 pm

yanpa wrote:There's an idea - chakubarai label with fake sender and recipient addresses...

In this way, TEPCO could get rid of a lot of their shit...
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby dimwit » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:36 pm

Abandoned houses are a great way to get rid of sodai gomi. Another possiblity is to leave crap on the street outside the residence of a known hoarder. It would be like Christmas Day for them.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Russell » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:42 pm

dimwit wrote:Abandoned houses are a great way to get rid of sodai gomi. Another possiblity is to leave crap on the street outside the residence of a known hoarder. It would be like Christmas Day for them.

I start to like this thread...
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby legion » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:03 pm

Wage Slave wrote:TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.


Disposing of electrical appliances properly is the not sexy side of environmentalism. We love to preach about TEPCO's failings but really hate to part with our own money to dispose of a box of toxic chemicals.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:41 pm

legion wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.


Disposing of electrical appliances properly is the not sexy side of environmentalism. We love to preach about TEPCO's failings but really hate to part with our own money to dispose of a box of toxic chemicals.


They don't charge that much so I don't think it's the money for a lot of people. It's the fact that they make it such a pain in the ass.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Russell » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:18 pm

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legion wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.


Disposing of electrical appliances properly is the not sexy side of environmentalism. We love to preach about TEPCO's failings but really hate to part with our own money to dispose of a box of toxic chemicals.


They don't charge that much so I don't think it's the money for a lot of people. It's the fact that they make it such a pain in the ass.

Did I tell you that I just go to the post office, tell them the tube size of the TV, and the brand and type, and pay around 3000 Yen. The rest is just a 5 minutes drive to the recycling place. Not really a pain in the ass.

But yeah, I rather would give my telly to someone who collects them...
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Postby yanpa » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:32 pm

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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:43 pm

Russell wrote:
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Wage Slave wrote:TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.


Disposing of electrical appliances properly is the not sexy side of environmentalism. We love to preach about TEPCO's failings but really hate to part with our own money to dispose of a box of toxic chemicals.


They don't charge that much so I don't think it's the money for a lot of people. It's the fact that they make it such a pain in the ass.

Did I tell you that I just go to the post office, tell them the tube size of the TV, and the brand and type, and pay around 3000 Yen. The rest is just a 5 minutes drive to the recycling place. Not really a pain in the ass.

But yeah, I rather would give my telly to someone who collects them...


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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby wagyl » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:45 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:You know a lot of us in Tokyo don't have cars, right?

What? Wait! So you impregnate your wife with your firstborn in the back seat of what exactly?

Just kidding. Everyone knows that you can't fit a TV, whether CRT or flatscreen, in the back of a Minica.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby inflames » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:47 am

I haven't had issues with paying for them to take old appliances - I paid for them to take my old TV and old washer when I bought new ones. It's the wait that is really annoying.

Another idea is to look up any local guesthouses (this works better in cities) and offer them any of the stuff - I've helped a few people running Airbnb places this way.
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Coligny » Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:19 am

legion wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:TVs are a special case. I have one I need to chuck and I think I will have to pay someone to take it. I'm not sure who yet. Probably one of the trucks Yanpa mentioned.


Disposing of electrical appliances properly is the not sexy side of environmentalism. We love to preach about TEPCO's failings but really hate to part with our own money to dispose of a box of toxic chemicals.


Taking the high road on a cheap ticket here...
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Re: Getting rid of clutter Japanese style

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Oct 30, 2015 9:42 am

inflames wrote:It's the wait that is really annoying.


That's what I was talking about and it's why I used recycle shop before. They don't make you wait for weeks and if it's something they don't want you can pay them (at the least the one I used) to remove it.
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