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kagemusha wrote:a certain FG
The final straw was apparently when one FG got so furious and worked about discrimination because of what wasn't on the English menu that the cops eventually had to be called to calm things down.
omae mona wrote:The final straw was apparently when one FG got so furious and worked about discrimination because of what wasn't on the English menu that the cops eventually had to be called to calm things down.
If there were a way to prove it, I would have bet money that it wasn't a tourist, but rather a Debito-reading resident who has been in Japan for 1-2 years.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
When he told me the story I said I bet it was someone who lived here because they sometimes develop a complex. He said that no the guy was a tourist. Maybe someone who used to live here. Apparently he understood enough Japanese to notice the difference between the English and Japanese menus which set him off.
legion wrote:By the way, living of izakaya food is not good for your health.
yanpa wrote:legion wrote:By the way, living of izakaya food is not good for your health.
Gawd, not another privileged white male dictating to the indigenous population?
dimwit wrote:The initial problem sounds a lot like what my wife is like when she travels. She will spend stupid amounts of time getting staff to explain what everything on the menu is -essentially it is an extension of shopping. And of course in the environment of an Izakaya where speed is of the essence having a person cognative epilepsy doesn't cut it. But, I think that the restaurants' solution only make matters worse, in that it does give tourists a much more negative attitude towards Japan. The reality is that in a tourist area you are going to get tourists and a fair number of them are going to be really really dumb.
legion wrote:Does she take photos of her food and post it on social media?
dimwit wrote:legion wrote:Does she take photos of her food and post it on social media?
She does take photos of her food but she isn't on any SMS, so I am not sure what the point of doing it is.
legion wrote:dimwit wrote:legion wrote:Does she take photos of her food and post it on social media?
She does take photos of her food but she isn't on any SMS, so I am not sure what the point of doing it is.
That's a shame. I was hoping someone could enlighten me why people do this.
legion wrote:dimwit wrote:legion wrote:Does she take photos of her food and post it on social media?
She does take photos of her food but she isn't on any SMS, so I am not sure what the point of doing it is.
That's a shame. I was hoping someone could enlighten me why people do this.
dimwit wrote:The initial problem sounds a lot like what my wife is like when she travels. She will spend stupid amounts of time getting staff to explain what everything on the menu is -essentially it is an extension of shopping. And of course in the environment of an Izakaya where speed is of the essence having a person cognative epilepsy doesn't cut it. But, I think that the restaurants' solution only make matters worse, in that it does give tourists a much more negative attitude towards Japan. The reality is that in a tourist area you are going to get tourists and a fair number of them are going to be really really dumb.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:legion wrote:dimwit wrote:legion wrote:Does she take photos of her food and post it on social media?
She does take photos of her food but she isn't on any SMS, so I am not sure what the point of doing it is.
That's a shame. I was hoping someone could enlighten me why people do this.
Better than the daily updates about people's kids or pets.
dimwit wrote:The initial problem sounds a lot like what my wife is like when she travels. She will spend stupid amounts of time getting staff to explain what everything on the menu is -essentially it is an extension of shopping.
wuchan wrote:A lot of Tokyo restaurants are hiring gaijin that speak a bit of Japanese to take care of these problems.
matsuki wrote:wuchan wrote:A lot of Tokyo restaurants are hiring gaijin that speak a bit of Japanese to take care of these problems.
...or a J-person that speaks English? Plenty of younglings with enough Engrish capability....or simply pay someone proficient in English to create a new English menu with detailed descriptions.
Not hard to sympathize with their foreign customer problems but several better options for them than banning Japanese skills lacking customers.
matsuki wrote:wuchan wrote:A lot of Tokyo restaurants are hiring gaijin that speak a bit of Japanese to take care of these problems.
...or a J-person that speaks English? Plenty of younglings with enough Engrish capability....or simply pay someone proficient in English to create a new English menu with detailed descriptions.
Not hard to sympathize with their foreign customer problems but several better options for them than banning Japanese skills lacking customers.
matsuki wrote:Fair enough on the language fluency but if business with FG is that bangin', it would seem worth it.
wagyl wrote:matsuki wrote:Fair enough on the language fluency but if business with FG is that bangin', it would seem worth it.
Truth is, these places are run off their feet with local trade, and don't need to cater for one off customers.
Takechanpoo wrote:your wife sucks so much,( i move my speech along with the assumption yours are a full-time housewife) who believe the world is rotating on her as a pivot and take it for granted that herself behave like a "god" toward store clerks despite the pathetic fact that she even cant flush the toilet after poo and pee without the husbands money. when i see that type of kuso babas and jijis, i make it a rule to scold those creatures by dirty words and dirty way of speech(べらんめえ調). and then they go away with a face containing mixed emotions of anger, fear and humiliation. those housewives are most useless things on the earth, who misunderstand themselves on everything. why the fuck on earth dont you dump the ugly creature?
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
I don't know how much of an overreaction it is on their part. The same extended family runs the place right next door and they still have an English menu and take foreigners. So do pretty much all of the other places on that street. I don't think they should be under any obligation to provide service in English but my instinct is to be bothered by the blanket ban. On the other hand it's hard not to sympathize with them.
kurogane wrote:Japan has no relevant anti-discrimination laws. As Grumpy Gramps noted and as Rock Hudson found out at the end of Giant, businesses reserve the right to refuse service.
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