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Mike Oxlong wrote:So it's natural for him to respect an athlete for not virtual fist-pumping a sub-par performance.
Greji wrote:
Holland, who was 6-1 in seven career starts against Seattle, including 4-0 with a 2.70 ERA since the start of last season, threw 41 pitches in the second inning before being relieved by Yoshinori Tateyama.
Tateyama got the final out of the second, but recorded only one out in the third, giving up seven hits and six earned runs.
"It's really upsetting to have something like that happen to you when you've been working so hard," said Holland, who threw 41 pitches in the second inning after a breezing through the first in 10.
"I did not give my team a chance to win," he said. "It's a big letdown on my part."
Iwakuma got the save for Seattle.
Mike Oxlong wrote:Mariners Pile Up 21 Runs On Rangers
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Pardon my ignorance, but why can Iwakuma gave a save when there's a 13-run difference in scores? What was there to save? Even Mac Suzuki couldn't have given up a lead like that...
Have the rules changed recently? (Not that I, as a non-baseball native, really knew them in the first place, but...)
Mike Oxlong wrote:Mariners Pile Up 21 Runs On Rangers
canman wrote:Another 3 or 4 years of claiming to be the best in the world gets tiring.
For once, a record without a steroids asterisk. Ichiro Suzuki got his 4,000th professional hit last night off R.A. Dickey at Yankee Stadium. But an asterisk, or some sort of further explanation, is in order. Ichiro's accomplishment is not to be ignored—only two other players have ever connected for 4,000 hits: Ty Cobb and Pete Rose—but it must be noted that his hit parade includes his prior career in Japan. Before joining the Seattle Mariners in 2001, Ichiro had 1,278 hits in the Japanese Pacific League. Now, with last night’s performance, he has 2,722 in Major League Baseball, bringing the combined total to 4,000...
"He's still 600 hits away from catching [teammate] Derek Jeter,'' Rose told USA TODAY Sports, "so how can he catch me?''
Rose's methodology: Jeter has 3,308 major league hits, Suzuki 2,722. Yes, Rose discounts the 1,278 hits Suzuki amassed while playing in Japan's top league - at least as they relate to being considered the Hit King.
Therefore, if Suzuki has 4,000 career hits, Rose says, then he has 4,673 hits.
"Hey, if we're counting professional hits,'' says Rose, the major-league hit leader at 4,256, "then add on my 427 career hits in the minors. I was a professional then, too.
"If you look at the records, Henry Aaron has 4,000 professional hits. So did Stan Musial.''
Rose may be 72 years old, and produced his last hit in 1986, but the man knows his baseball stats.
Aaron indeed had 4,095 professional hits - 3,771 in the major leagues and 371 in the minors. Musial had 4,001 professional hits - 3,630 hits in the majors and 371 in the minors.
"I don't want to take anything away from (Suzuki),'' Rose says, "but does anybody remember making a big deal when Henry Aaron had 755 homers and [Japanese slugger] Sadaharu Oh passed him?
"Are we now supposed to count Warren Moon's passing yards in the Canadian Football League to his NFL career stats?
"When you compare yourself to me, Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker and Nap Lajoie, we all did it in the states.''
Don't misinterpret Rose's opinion of Suzuki. Rose believes he is one of the greatest hitters of his era. Rose may never get into the Hall of Fame after receiving a lifetime ban for gambling, but he says that Suzuki richly deserves the honor.
They lobbed a dead ball at his head and then they walked him! Boo. Balentein robbed of his chance to break the HR record. Hiss.
--- Jake Adelstein (@jakeadelstein) September 11, 2013
Taro Toporific wrote:New York Times | September 5, 2013 by Hiroko Tabuchi and Joshua Hunt
TOKYO -- Balentien, a native of Curaçao, in the Netherlands Antilles,
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Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Great to see that Rakuten are world champions at baseball.
Yokohammer wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Great to see that Rakuten are world champions at baseball.
Er ... Japan champions
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Great to see that Rakuten are world champions at baseball.
Er ... Japan champions
In baseball aren't you world champions even if they only play in one cuntry?
chokonen888 wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Great to see that Rakuten are world champions at baseball.
Er ... Japan champions
In baseball aren't you world champions even if they only play in one cuntry?
Not to defend MLB but at least it covers more than one cuntry and there aren't limits on foreign players. (So they are likely the best players from around the world) On the other hand, Japanese baseball teams are "pure" and can only play 3 FG at each game.
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Great to see that Rakuten are world champions at baseball.
Er ... Japan champions
In baseball aren't you world champions even if they only play in one cuntry?
Not to defend MLB but at least it covers more than one cuntry and there aren't limits on foreign players. (So they are likely the best players from around the world) On the other hand, Japanese baseball teams are "pure" and can only play 3 FG at each game.
I'm only teasing you....
By the way, you do know baseball is really rounders don't you?
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