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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby matsuki » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:29 am

Taro Toporific wrote:///Notice that the new projected cost 153.7 billion yen for the Japanese design is so much better than the previous 169 billion yen price tag of the evil alien designed stadium that was rejected.


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Could this get any more comical? (TIJ, we all know it can) It's the whole claim of savings when you save a single yen on a 6-pack of beer here....on the international stage.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:22 pm

Tokyo Olympics might cost $15 bln, 6 times orginal estimate

In a fresh blow to Tokyo's plans for the Games, both national and local taxpayers will have to help foot the huge increase in the bill to stage the sporting event, the Sankei Shimbun said Saturday.

The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games and the Tokyo government expect the eventual cost of holding the Games to be 1.8 trillion yen ($14.84 billion), compared with the original estimate of 301.3 billion yen, Kyodo News said on Friday.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby Russell » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:26 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Tokyo Olympics might cost $15 bln, 6 times orginal estimate

In a fresh blow to Tokyo's plans for the Games, both national and local taxpayers will have to help foot the huge increase in the bill to stage the sporting event, the Sankei Shimbun said Saturday.

The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games and the Tokyo government expect the eventual cost of holding the Games to be 1.8 trillion yen ($14.84 billion), compared with the original estimate of 301.3 billion yen, Kyodo News said on Friday.

Maybe time they do the same as with the stadium: reopen the bids.

And what is it with the miscalculation: 6 times???
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:51 pm

Russell wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Tokyo Olympics might cost $15 bln, 6 times orginal estimate

In a fresh blow to Tokyo's plans for the Games, both national and local taxpayers will have to help foot the huge increase in the bill to stage the sporting event, the Sankei Shimbun said Saturday.

The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games and the Tokyo government expect the eventual cost of holding the Games to be 1.8 trillion yen ($14.84 billion), compared with the original estimate of 301.3 billion yen, Kyodo News said on Friday.

Maybe time they do the same as with the stadium: reopen the bids.

And what is it with the miscalculation: 6 times???

Just going from memory here, but the two new proposed stadiums are barely 15 or perhaps 20 billion cheaper than the discarded 169 billion yen boondoogle, no?
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby wagyl » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:45 pm

Why rely on memory when you only need to look at the top of this page? Fifteen billion Yen is correct.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:51 pm

wagyl wrote:Why rely on memory when you only need to look at the top of this page? Fifteen billion Yen is correct.

Woah! Holy short-term memory fail! :oops: Anyway, the point that opening for rebid may not improve much still stands. :wall:
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby kurogane » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:12 pm

You need to look at it backwards through the mirror darkly: reopening the bids would suggest that the original bidding process was not up to snuff, which would suggest that the organising committe is not up to snuff, and might even suggest the proposal itself was a pipe dream that was not up to snuff, so no, that won't happen. This is now about face (and timely completion) not money. :cry2:

A shame really. I am totally opposed to proper countries bidding for the Olympics, but they really do like a Big Event and they're just so cute when they have one and it goes off well. I tire of being right about these boondoggle mega-projects.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby legion » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:02 am

Fer Fucks sake

Some people run around a track, some people throw some items, some people swim, does that really have to cost more than Abe's quantitative bowels
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby wagyl » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:15 am

legion wrote:Fer Fucks sake

Some people run around a track, some people throw some items, some people swim, does that really have to cost more than [s]Abe's quantitative bowels[/s]

the handsome sum that McDonalds and Coca Cola etc. and the world's media organisations pay for the rights to associate themselves with the event and broadcast it?
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:50 pm

while A design of the stadium was accepted, Zaha Hadid insists that the A design is surprisingly resemble to her withdrawn "helmet" design in the layout of seats and stadium, which her team spent 2 years for.
"we emphasize that the intellectual property right belongs to us"
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby matsuki » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:08 pm

So....cancel the Olympics?
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby legion » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:50 pm

wagyl wrote:
legion wrote:Fer Fucks sake

Some people run around a track, some people throw some items, some people swim, does that really have to cost more than [s]Abe's quantitative bowels[/s]

the handsome sum that McDonalds and Coca Cola etc. and the world's media organisations pay for the rights to associate themselves with the event and broadcast it?


Which they can then claim against tax I believe ..........
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby legion » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:52 pm

matsuki wrote:So....cancel the Olympics?


Just hold them on Toshima, which is part of Tokyo.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:25 am

The Tokyo Olympic stadium's new design, Proposal B:
The Triple Veggie Burger


Kengo Kuma, picked to design Tokyo's new Olympic stadium (Triple Veggie Burger), is highly regarded in his field
The Japan Times | December 22, 2015
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:07 pm

That's better than that self-portrait inspired loaded diaper design from the Iraqi-Gorgon. I still can't believe they wasted all that time and money on a foreign architect, especially that one. Her work is froofy goofy rubbish. Is open bidding a requirement of the Olympic bid itself, perhaps? Seems plausible but stupid.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby matsuki » Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:42 pm

That things doesn't look soo bad but it also doesn't look drastically different than what was already there that could have been remodeled.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:17 pm

Awwww, right. I forgot about the obvious choice they should have gone with. Not using or updating existing facilities is incredible, especially since it would have been a great bit of Olympic heritage to have the same stadium serve twice. Wasn't the '84 LA Games main stadium a re-use? Checked: yes.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:18 pm

Toyo Ito, who designed B plan, is also saying Kumas A plan is resemble to Zahas plan and it will maybe be sued by her.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:51 pm

Surely the fact that it is oval and stacked aren't enough to warrant the Wicked Witch of Bagdad extending her evil claws? It doesn't look stupid, futuristic, or like a loaded diaper dumped upside down. But she does seem to be a right touchy cunt, so sue she might.

Anybody see any resemblance that might suggest plagiarism or property right infringement?
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Postby Russell » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:08 pm

kurogane wrote:Surely the fact that it is oval and stacked aren't enough to warrant the Wicked Witch of Bagdad extending her evil claws? It doesn't look stupid, futuristic, or like a loaded diaper dumped upside down. But she does seem to be a right touchy cunt, so sue she might.

Anybody see any resemblance that might suggest plagiarism or property right infringement?

The claim seems to be that it is the arrangement of the seats.
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Re: 2020 Japan Olympics

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:33 pm

Aaaah, okay. Even so, how many ways can there be to arrange seats in a given structure of a certain shape, size and function? Not that I would know.........From what I read awhile back about the witch of Baghdad she is a huge lover of grapes......the sour kind, and her supporters seem to share that. Even allowing that some of the harsher criticisms of her chosen design seemed impolitic and unprofessonal it was a monstrosity that would have completely overwhelmed the setting, in MYHOMO.
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