Permanent Fucked Gaijin (Residency)

[IparryU]

OK, so me and the Injun are going to go apply for PR. I been here since 2007, was married for 5 years. So this is more of a hail marry of an attempt to see if I can get it. If it the chances are slim to none, I will say fuck it and not even waste my time.

http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/kanri/shyorui/05.html
So far I got all of this completed and printed out:
Application form 1copy
Photo (4cm×3cm) 1copy
Passport and residence card
Letter of Guarantee

Is there anything else that I need when I had all this stuff in? I assume that when/if they call me in they will ask for more stuff like taxes and what not.

[wagyl]

Since this question will by nature get personal to your circumstances you might think about getting it shifted to a more private forum, but speaking generally proof that you are supporting two underage Japanese citizens will be a positive thing. Without that, I would think that you would be treated like any other single, and they would want to see a 10 year residence record from you.

I strongly suspect that their biggest factor, apart from having put in the time, is whether you can support yourself without becoming a burden on the state. Proven income earning capacity, and assets if you have them, will help.

I really don't know whether Immigration pays much attention to any record they might keep of previous, failed applications, but depending on how they treat that fact, you could say "apply anyway, you have little to lose and lots to gain."

If you are asking what your chances are, I really don't know. My first paragraph addresses some factors unique to you, so probably no one can tell you. You might want to think about whether there is a reason for you to apply now rather than in three years time (and there may be some reasons personal to your future plans which do suggest now is a better time for you, but only you know that).

Edited to add one more factor:
Is your current visa the longest term that was available at the time you applied for it (three years or five years)? I have no hard facts, but the story used to be that people applying for PR on a one year visa were automatically knocked back.

[IparryU]

Since this question will by nature get personal to your circumstances you might think about getting it shifted to a more private forum, but speaking generally proof that you are supporting two underage Japanese citizens will be a positive thing. Without that, I would think that you would be treated like any other single, and they would want to see a 10 year residence record from you.

I strongly suspect that their biggest factor, apart from having put in the time, is whether you can support yourself without becoming a burden on the state. Proven income earning capacity, and assets if you have them, will help.

I really don't know whether Immigration pays much attention to any record they might keep of previous, failed applications, but depending on how they treat that fact, you could say "apply anyway, you have little to lose and lots to gain."

If you are asking what your chances are, I really don't know. My first paragraph addresses some factors unique to you, so probably no one can tell you. You might want to think about whether there is a reason for you to apply now rather than in three years time (and there may be some reasons personal to your future plans which do suggest now is a better time for you, but only you know that).

Edited to add one more factor:
Is your current visa the longest term that was available at the time you applied for it (three years or five years)? I have no hard facts, but the story used to be that people applying for PR on a one year visa were automatically knocked back.

Thanks wagyl. I have to renew my visa by October and it would be convenient to submit both applications at the same time since I will be going there anyway. My longest visa was 3 years (spouse of j-national) and I am now on a 1 year specialist in humanities visa.

I will be here to support my children and that is pretty much my only reason why I am still here to be honest. I am also going to get the ex to write something to help me out. She will also be the guarantor, so I am hoping that this will improve my odds a bit.

One thing that I was worrying about is if they try to push a divorce fraud on us as she is collecting money from the govt for being a single mom. There were a few people in our daycare that divorced just to get their kids in the same daycare. The dad would "move" to his parents house so all the paperwork is legit. We are divorced for the purpose of not being compatible with each other, but we both agree on one thing... take care of our kids and give them the best life we could provide them. Even Choko knocks on me about it... saying that I am basically married, but not.

But ya, if this thread gets any more personal I will make a thread in premium then just paste some general info here.

[wagyl]

Gut instinct says that if you apply this time, while you are still under a single year visa, they will knock you back. Basically, having only a one year visa now means that just one year ago they were not sure enough about you to give you a three year visa (and I remember the details there...) I would wait to see if I get a three or five year visa this time, and then apply if I did.

If anyone has direct knowledge of a successful PR application while still under a single year visa, now is the time to tell me I am talking shit.

[IparryU]

Gut instinct says that if you apply this time, while you are still under a single year visa, they will knock you back. Basically, having only a one year visa now means that just one year ago they were not sure enough about you to give you a three year visa (and I remember the details there...) I would wait to see if I get a three or five year visa this time, and then apply if I did.

If anyone has direct knowledge of a successful PR application while still under a single year visa, now is the time to tell me I am talking shit.

In general, I think you are correct as if you cannot get the pass for a 3 or 5 year visa of any type, you aren't worth it. Sort of like how some nationalities get 1 year spouse visas for the first three years then a 3 year visa, where as us Yanks, Brits, EU, OZ/NZ folk get 3 years for the first visa.

I will take your word on that as it is very logical/trend of the migra. But if what you are saying is BS then I would be happy...

[GomiGirl]

Get thee to an immigration lawyer - stat!!

Better chance of getting it first time.

[IparryU]

Get thee to an immigration lawyer - stat!!

Better chance of getting it first time.

recommendations GG?

[Mike Oxlong]

You'll need a guarantor to vouch for you, and they will have a section on your paperwork to fill out. It has been said the more standing that person has, the more chance you have of passing.

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

Silly question, but would one of the outlaws be your guarantor?

[omae mona]

I will be here to support my children and that is pretty much my only reason why I am still here to be honest. I am also going to get the ex to write something to help me out. She will also be the guarantor, so I am hoping that this will improve my odds a bit.

One thing that I was worrying about is if they try to push a divorce fraud on us as she is collecting money from the govt for being a single mom. There were a few people in our daycare that divorced just to get their kids in the same daycare. The dad would "move" to his parents house so all the paperwork is legit. We are divorced for the purpose of not being compatible with each other, but we both agree on one thing... take care of our kids and give them the best life we could provide them. Even Choko knocks on me about it... saying that I am basically married, but not.

I forget what level of background checking is done, but the primary purpose of the guarantor is financial. I do not imagine they would (knowingly) allow somebody on public support to be a guarantor. The main reason for the guarantor is to cover your financial costs in case YOU end up on public support. As others are suggesting, I'd find somebody else.

[GomiGirl]

Get thee to an immigration lawyer - stat!!

Better chance of getting it first time.

recommendations GG?

Yoko Majima (mention my name - my real one)
http://www.juridique.jp/