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jjaappaa wrote:Hello Everyone I was looking back at some earlier posts about changing visa status while in country. Do they still allow it? Or is a quick trip to Korea still necessary? I am an Aus. with a BA degree and 10 months eikaiwa teaching experience (working holi. visa in 2002). I will come to Japan and live with my girlfriend so accommodation will be fine, it is just that I am a little worried about being able to get an eikaiwa job in a short time in Tokyo. Any advice and ideas would be appreciated. This is my first post so excuse any daftness please.(long time lurker first time poster) :P
jjaappaa wrote:Hello Everyone I was looking back at some earlier posts about changing visa status while in country. Do they still allow it? Or is a quick trip to Korea still necessary? I am an Aus. with a BA degree and 10 months eikaiwa teaching experience (working holi. visa in 2002). I will come to Japan and live with my girlfriend so accommodation will be fine, it is just that I am a little worried about being able to get an eikaiwa job in a short time in Tokyo. Any advice and ideas would be appreciated. This is my first post so excuse any daftness please.(long time lurker first time poster) :P
FG Lurker wrote:jjaappaa wrote:Hello Everyone I was looking back at some earlier posts about changing visa status while in country. Do they still allow it? Or is a quick trip to Korea still necessary? I am an Aus. with a BA degree and 10 months eikaiwa teaching experience (working holi. visa in 2002). I will come to Japan and live with my girlfriend so accommodation will be fine, it is just that I am a little worried about being able to get an eikaiwa job in a short time in Tokyo. Any advice and ideas would be appreciated. This is my first post so excuse any daftness please.(long time lurker first time poster) :P
A couple of other points:
- You should contact your previous employer to see if they will hire you back. If so get your work visa before you go.
- I had two Working Holiday Visas. This was in 93 and 95 though, and I have heard from some that it is no longer possible. A quick call to the Japanese embassy or consulate wouldn't be a bad idea. Be sure to have a set of plans about what you want to do in Japan though -- traveling to here, here, here, and here. Doing this at this time. "I want to go back and live with my gf while working part time" won't cut it.
- If nothing else get a job with a big school like ECC or Nova before you come here. Yah, I know they are hated by all, but it's a job and you will have an income when you arrive. Once you get settled you can look around for what you really want to do.
jjaappaa wrote:Thanks for the advice mate I appreciate it. I worked for Nova and I don't want to go that route again if I can help it. I will call the Embassy but as far as I know they only give one working visa (which i have already had) and I am over 30 (which is the cut off age for being eligible).
FG Lurker wrote:jjaappaa wrote:Thanks for the advice mate I appreciate it. I worked for Nova and I don't want to go that route again if I can help it. I will call the Embassy but as far as I know they only give one working visa (which i have already had) and I am over 30 (which is the cut off age for being eligible).
If you're past 30 then definitely no-go. When I did it 10 years ago they would give you a 2nd visa if you were still within the age limits and wrote a special letter of request.
Even though it is Nova I would suggest going back to them if you can. It will give you a job to come back to and a working visa from the very start. Once you've settled in it will be possible to jump from Nova to a more desirable place of work.
jjaappaa wrote:Anyway I know it is a risk but still I am planning to come jobless and look for work when I arrive. I can live with my girlfriend and she will have a job so it should be ok. I can't see myself not being able to be sponsored and secure a job in Japan. In Aus. the difficulty is not being able to be interviewed face to face.
jjaappaa wrote:Again thanks for that link. I did search google about changing visas in Japan but I didn't find the link that you showed me. I still am quite an arse at using the internet.
FG Lurker wrote:Google is incredibly powerful, if you know some of the tricks to using it. You can see the search I used by clicking on the "Google Search" link I provided. The trick is to reduce what you want into several key words. ....
So you need a way to make the search return more authoritative results. All Japanese government agencies with web sites use addresses that end with ".go.jp". Pretty clear that it means "government japan".
FG Lurker wrote:You changed from a temporary visitors visa (aka tourist visa) to a standard working visa without leaving and reentering Japan?
If so then something major has changed because this used to be impossible. It is still written up as being impossible on every site I can find.
I'd be curious to hear what your nationality is. It may be that some countries have entered into a reciprocal agreement with Japan to make this possible for their citizens.
FG Lurker wrote:jjaappaa wrote:Anyway I know it is a risk but still I am planning to come jobless and look for work when I arrive. I can live with my girlfriend and she will have a job so it should be ok. I can't see myself not being able to be sponsored and secure a job in Japan. In Aus. the difficulty is not being able to be interviewed face to face.
I hope everything goes smoothly and you find work quickly upon arrival. Where abouts in Japan are you heading?jjaappaa wrote:Again thanks for that link. I did search google about changing visas in Japan but I didn't find the link that you showed me. I still am quite an arse at using the internet.
Google is incredibly powerful, if you know some of the tricks to using it. You can see the search I used by clicking on the "Google Search" link I provided. The trick is to reduce what you want into several key words. You want to find information about changing from a tourist visa to a working visa in Japan. The key words in that thought are:
Japan visa tourist work change
The order is not important really, but you have to get rid of the words you don't need, and make sure to include the words that cover the key points of what you want to know.
That search by itself produces quite a list of sites, many of which are just people spouting off about what they *think* is possible, or how they think the Japanese government should change the rules, etc. So you need a way to make the search return more authoritative results. All Japanese government agencies with web sites use addresses that end with ".go.jp". Pretty clear that it means "government japan". Google has a collection of useful features, one of them is the "site" limiter. If you search like this:
Japan visa tourist work change site:go.jp
Google will return *only* hits from Japanese government web sites. Cool huh? You can use it to limit searches to only one site too. If you wanted to search fuckedgaijin.com for the same information you would do this:
Japan visa tourist work change site:fuckedgaijin.com
If you wanted to exclude all Japanese government sites you could do this:
Japan visa tourist work change -site:go.jp
The minus sign flips the site command into an exclusion mode.
With a bit of time you will get better at choosing keywords to search with. Once you manage that you will be able to find just about anything you want.
Good luck!
RealTronic wrote:FG Lurker wrote:You changed from a temporary visitors visa (aka tourist visa) to a standard working visa without leaving and reentering Japan?
If so then something major has changed because this used to be impossible. It is still written up as being impossible on every site I can find.
I'd be curious to hear what your nationality is. It may be that some countries have entered into a reciprocal agreement with Japan to make this possible for their citizens.
First off, I'm from Sweden. As far as I know, no special bilateral agreements in this matter have been struck.
And yes, when doing searches on the government websites about this, you generally get the answer "no it is not possible." However, I did find this on a JETRO site:
* If a foreign national who has applied for a Certificate of Eligibility is already in Japan on a temporary visitor status of residence when the Certificate of Eligibility is issued, that foreign national may be able to change his/her temporary visitor status of residence to the working status approved in the Certificate of Eligibility while still in Japan, without the need to apply and receive a visa at a Japanese diplomatic mission outside Japan.
http://www.jetro.go.jp/en/invest/setting_up/section2.html
As I am living example of, it is possible, but not generally accepted. Since all applications are screened individually, I guess it's a matter of having all your papers and records straight, and that your job is with a respectable company.
FG Lurker wrote:...
You changed from a temporary visitors visa (aka tourist visa) to a standard working visa without leaving and reentering Japan?
If so then something major has changed because this used to be impossible. ...
On Sunday, November 21, 2004 2:35:31 PM, Caustic Saint's blog wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL
I got my Certificate of Eligibility for my work visa today! That means I have official government approval to stay in Japan.
YAY!!!!! ^.^
...Next up is a quick trip to Korea to go to the Embassy and get my visa entered into my passport. Yes, I know it's possible to do it without leaving Japan in some cases, but it'll give me a chance to take a little [[paid]] trip, hang out with some old friends and do a little shopping. So why not go?
"I went into Seoul yesterday to drop off my visa paperwork at the Japanese consulate ..."...."... the visaonly takes one day to process. Since I'm arriving on a Thursday, I'll have to drop it off on Friday, which means I can't get it back until Monday. ..."
Taro Toporific wrote:FG Lurker wrote:...
You changed from a temporary visitors visa (aka tourist visa) to a standard working visa without leaving and reentering Japan?
If so then something major has changed because this used to be impossible. ...
I've been hearing scattered claims about this no-need-to-leave-for-work-visa for a few years...and figured it was caused by a combination of the phase of the moon and a planetary alignment in our solar system.
If I were you, I would be sure to have a money for the visa run to Korea.
Speaking of Korea, Caustic Saint just made a visa run to Korea to change his tourist visa to a standard working visa:On Sunday, November 21, 2004 2:35:31 PM, Caustic Saint's blog wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL
I got my Certificate of Eligibility for my work visa today! That means I have official government approval to stay in Japan.
YAY!!!!! ^.^
...Next up is a quick trip to Korea to go to the Embassy and get my visa entered into my passport. Yes, I know it's possible to do it without leaving Japan in some cases, but it'll give me a chance to take a little [[paid]] trip, hang out with some old friends and do a little shopping. So why not go?
"I went into Seoul yesterday to drop off my visa paperwork at the Japanese consulate ..."...."... the visaonly takes one day to process. Since I'm arriving on a Thursday, I'll have to drop it off on Friday, which means I can't get it back until Monday. ..."
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