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Postby Coligny » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:51 pm

Do you guys know the name for the run flat tire used on these bikes :

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/life-design/2063-2064-ots-se/

Or if there is a mention of availability for some retrofit...
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Postby Coligny » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:46 pm

frack, forgot to push the 'not news' button again... i'm gunna need a check list on this...

[MOD NOTE: fixed, as I was about to do it on my own anyway]
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Postby Mock Cockpit » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:53 pm

http://www.notubes.com/Road-Tubeless-C78.aspx
Lots of info here although not really sure if this is what you were looking for.
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Postby Coligny » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:54 pm

I don't think it is, I'm more searching for a mama-chary aimed semi hard foam to put instead of air. Unlike the high performance product you linked it actually degrade road handling but increase survivability and don't need to be inflated. Therefore ending the boring systematic need to inflate the bike when you don't use it often enough...
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:23 am

Coligny wrote:Do you guys know the name for the run flat tire used on these bikes :
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/life-design/2063-2064-ots-se/
Or if there is a mention of availability for some retrofit...


I use 'em.
Airfree tires are the only way to roll in an always-must-go vehicle like my wheelchair or a only-used-a-couple-times-month shopping bicycle like Mrs. Taro's mama-chari.

http://www.airfreetires.com/shopping/c-6-airless-bicycle-tires.aspx

Advantages:
    Your bike tires are always properly inflated.
    Airfree tires make curb hopping and other bicycle tire abuse care-free.
    The tires last forever* and of course never can go flat.

Disadvantages:
    Slightly heavier (10-15%) than regular pneumatic bicycle tires
    Slightly more rolling resistance (5-10%)
    It's difficult install Airfree tires without the proper tools---It's a two person job without the professional bicycle tire "changer/bead breaker" tool.

Bottom Line: Airfree bicycle tires might not win Tour de France but they are ideal for a shopping bike used for trips under 6km and conversely are great for trips over 600km.


*My buddy who a rode bicycle LA to Chicago had flats almost daily and went through 5 sets of pneumatic bicycle tires. On the return trip of Chicago to LA, he used Airfree tires--Of course he had no flats and final three days of the ride the Airfree tires kept rolling even though patches of the tread worn through to hard rubber foam interior.

Note: Buy the higher quality airfree tires that have less rolling resistance.
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Postby wuchan » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:17 am

can't use slime?
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Postby Coligny » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:24 am

Taro Toporific wrote:I use 'em.
Airfree tires are the only way to roll in an always-must-go vehicle like my wheelchair or a only-used-a-couple-times-month shopping bicycle like Mrs. Taro's mama-chari.

http://www.airfreetires.com/shopping/c-6-airless-bicycle-tires.aspx

Exactly what I need. And the transport fee is not thaaaat horrible.

Me Julie found a pair on some website for around 8000 yens... Which is a bit of a rip off compared to the US prices... As usual here, not a lot of smart products and when there is finally one they feel the need to kill any chances of it going mainstream by overpricing it...

(BTW, slime is more a self sealant than a not puncturable/ high survivability solution. Since March Mominlaw keep the bicycle pump near the bug-out backpacks... it's cute... but if you want to go fast, the last thing you want to have to do before is pumping air in your bike...)
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Postby Greji » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:52 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:I use 'em.
Airfree tires are the only way to roll in an always-must-go vehicle like my wheelchair

You mean all that time I spent letting the air out of your tires was for nothing?
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Postby matsuki » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:55 pm

Greji wrote:You mean all that time I spent letting the air out of your tires was for nothing?
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Hate to break it to you Greji but that rubber in your hands wasn't a tire and that hissing definitely wasn't the air coming out :D
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Postby sublight » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:05 pm

wuchan wrote:can't use slime?


I don't think you can use Slime to completely fill a tire; you just squirt a bottlefull in to seal off leaks as they form. My wife uses it in her mamachari, but still needs to inflate the tires now and then.
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Postby Coligny » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:09 pm

Same as cars tire repair kits that are in fact just an air pressure bottle of sealant. Fix a small leak, put back some pressure on the tire. Just what you need to keep going quick. But not a longterm maintenance free setup at all.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:22 pm

Coligny wrote:Same as cars tire repair kits that are in fact just an air pressure bottle of sealant. Fix a small leak, put back some pressure on the tire. Just what you need to keep going quick. But not a longterm maintenance free setup at all.


...and some leave that impossible to remove goo all over the inside of the wheel :confused:
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:38 pm

chokonen888 wrote:...and some leave that impossible to remove goo all over the inside of the wheel :confused:


Ohhhh I feel the pain.
Before discovering airfree tires, I used "Slime" in my wheelchair tires. Whatafunckingmess! (And Slime does not help with cuts caused by glass, only smallish punctures.)

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Postby sublight » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:01 pm

And even Slime won't do everything, as I just now got a call from my wife saying that she managed to get a pinch flat (caused by never filling her tires and always riding around with them less than half-full) about 5km from home today and had to push her 20-ton mamachari all the way back.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:12 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:Ohhhh I feel the pain.
Before discovering airfree tires, I used "Slime" in my wheelchair tires. Whatafunckingmess! (And Slime does not help with cuts caused by glass, only smallish punctures.)

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Lucky for me, the experience wasn't my own :D after seeing that shit, I was glad I always carried around a mini compressor and plug kit rather than a tube of that crap. Unfortunately, I got more use out of that compressor kit than I would have liked...though better than getting stranded without it.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:23 pm

sublight wrote:And even Slime won't do everything, as I just now got a call from my wife saying that she managed to get a pinch flat (caused by never filling her tires and always riding around with them less than half-full)


As I said, the ONLY FUCKING SOLUTION is to use airfree tires filled with rigid foam.

All you "ABs" [color="Silver"](that's what we gimps call you Able Bodied folks)[/color] can dick around with Slime and whatever, but the only real solution is foam-filled tires. I guarantee that on a mama-chari, nobody will notice the increase of 5-10% rolling resistance of foam-filled airfree tires (since 95% of mama-chari are running on under-inflated tires anyway).
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:36 pm

sublight wrote:caused by never filling her tires and always riding around with them less than half-full


Isn't that the standard in Japan?
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Postby sublight » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:51 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Isn't that the standard in Japan?


Could be. I think just generally not taking care of your bike is the standard here.

Our apartment building even has a power compressor right next to the bike racks, but she still chooses to ride around on tires so flat that I can feel the bike flopping back and forth when I try to ride it.

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Postby Coligny » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:37 pm

sublight wrote:And even Slime won't do everything, as I just now got a call from my wife saying that she managed to get a pinch flat (caused by never filling her tires and always riding around with them less than half-full) about 5km from home today and had to push her 20-ton mamachari all the way back.

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Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:53 pm

You really have not learned the Japanese way, have you! You must put the basket, or child, up front on the handlebars...so as to make any attempt at steering slow and prone to weight shifts.
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Postby Coligny » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:20 pm

been there, done that, nearly died...

I want my steering light...
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Postby IparryU » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:49 am

Greji wrote:You mean all that time I spent letting the air out of your tires was for nothing?
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like choko said... that was the kiddoll that you ordered from NZ... talk about a fucked investment.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:28 pm

Greji wrote:You mean all that time I spent letting the air out of your tires was for nothing?
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I hope that a least it wuz a bit recreationnal...

http://www.health-information-fitness.com/airenema.htm
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Postby Morgan285 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:31 pm

what is this all about....come talk sense
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