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omae mona wrote:What's up with deleting the original post?
wangta wrote:I'm especially careful in Korea where the immi people and police (and there's a shitload of them around and just as many military around) are just itching to find a reason to delay your travel plans no matter how nice the other K staff are.
wangta wrote:Choko - I heard sometime before (maybe about 5 yrs ago) that the Jp police check out foreign visitors by requiring hotels to give them lists of foreign tourists, people coming for a short time for business etc. I'm guessing that if it's true this would be done by the local koban near the relevant hotels.
chokonen888 wrote:wangta wrote:Choko - I heard sometime before (maybe about 5 yrs ago) that the Jp police check out foreign visitors by requiring hotels to give them lists of foreign tourists, people coming for a short time for business etc. I'm guessing that if it's true this would be done by the local koban near the relevant hotels.
That's an odd rumor?? They don't normally ask nationality when you book though they will likely ask for a passport when you check in....which I don't recommend anyone let them make a copy of after a Swedish dude I know had quite a ton of problems from one of these scans/scams at a major hotel (was a lone worker, without the hotel's knowledge, that was giving out copies for dubious uses)
Wibble wrote:I think this is about law requiring for hotels to keep copies of passports of non-Japanese residents staying. Supposedly someone from the local koban swings by the hotels and collects the passport copies on a regular basis for unknown purposes (probably just to fill up some boxes somewhere).
chokonen888 wrote:Wibble wrote:I think this is about law requiring for hotels to keep copies of passports of non-Japanese residents staying. Supposedly someone from the local koban swings by the hotels and collects the passport copies on a regular basis for unknown purposes (probably just to fill up some boxes somewhere).
Is or was that an actual law?
tripadvisor.com 3. Re: Is passport required for check in to the Japanese hotels?
Sep 24, 2012, 1:10 AM
Japanese law only says those who who do not have a Japanese address, hotels are to record passport information.
If you have a Japanese address then you do not have to show your passport.
The problem is some hotels don't seem to understand the law very well and request all foreigners show a passport. By stating you are a resident of Japan and writing in your Japanese address at check in should be enough.
Here's the law in Japanese if you wish to print out a copy with you:
www.mhlw.go.jp/topics/2005/03/tp0317-1.html
(If you can't read Japanese, the main part first in the color red under part 2, which states only foreigners who DO NOT have a Japanese address are to have their passport information recorded)
If they ask and if you want to, you can show them your ARC/Alien Registration Card or Resident Card (which you are supposed to carry with you in case you don't have your passport on you), but that's up to your discretion (showing it to the hotel that is). The hotel cannot legally compel you to show your Alien Registration Card/Resident Card if you already have a Japanese address.
Taro Toporific wrote:I always wondered about that too since nobody ever asked for my passport at Japanese hotels when I was a tourist (they just wanted my credit card to check in).tripadvisor.com 3. Re: Is passport required for check in to the Japanese hotels?
Sep 24, 2012, 1:10 AM
Japanese law only says those who who do not have a Japanese address, hotels are to record passport information.
If you have a Japanese address then you do not have to show your passport.
The problem is some hotels don't seem to understand the law very well and request all foreigners show a passport. By stating you are a resident of Japan and writing in your Japanese address at check in should be enough.
Here's the law in Japanese if you wish to print out a copy with you:
http://www.mhlw.go.jp/topics/2005/03/tp0317-1.html
(If you can't read Japanese, the main part first in the color red under part 2, which states only foreigners who DO NOT have a Japanese address are to have their passport information recorded)
If they ask and if you want to, you can show them your ARC/Alien Registration Card or Resident Card (which you are supposed to carry with you in case you don't have your passport on you), but that's up to your discretion (showing it to the hotel that is). The hotel cannot legally compel you to show your Alien Registration Card/Resident Card if you already have a Japanese address.
Taro Toporific wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Wibble wrote:I think this is about law requiring for hotels to keep copies of passports of non-Japanese residents staying. Supposedly someone from the local koban swings by the hotels and collects the passport copies on a regular basis for unknown purposes (probably just to fill up some boxes somewhere).
Is or was that an actual law?
I always wondered about that too since nobody ever asked for my passport at Japanese hotels when I was a tourist (they just wanted my credit card to check in).
dimwit wrote:When travelling to Tokyo on business, I have been told that I must present a passport to be copied by the front desk staff. As I recall, this all started after 9/11.
dimwit wrote:When travelling to Tokyo on business, I have been told that I must present a passport to be copied by the front desk staff. As I recall, this all started after 9/11.
omae mona wrote:dimwit wrote:When travelling to Tokyo on business, I have been told that I must present a passport to be copied by the front desk staff. As I recall, this all started after 9/11.
Dimwit, you live in Japan, right? (sorry, forgot your current status). If so, whoever told you that was wrong.
dimwit wrote:omae mona wrote:dimwit wrote:When travelling to Tokyo on business, I have been told that I must present a passport to be copied by the front desk staff. As I recall, this all started after 9/11.
Dimwit, you live in Japan, right? (sorry, forgot your current status). If so, whoever told you that was wrong.
Yep. I'm in the middle of Shikoku paying off a mortgage so I'll be here for a tad. I agree that they were wrong, but the contract work I was doing was extremely lucrative so why rock the boat?
omae mona wrote:dimwit wrote:omae mona wrote:dimwit wrote:When travelling to Tokyo on business, I have been told that I must present a passport to be copied by the front desk staff. As I recall, this all started after 9/11.
Dimwit, you live in Japan, right? (sorry, forgot your current status). If so, whoever told you that was wrong.
Yep. I'm in the middle of Shikoku paying off a mortgage so I'll be here for a tad. I agree that they were wrong, but the contract work I was doing was extremely lucrative so why rock the boat?
Well personally I don't carry my passport with me when I'm out and about. It's large and inconvenient, plus I'm screwed if I lose it. So if I showed up at a hotel and they demanded my passport, i wouldn't have much choice but to tell them to fuck off..
Samurai_Jerk wrote:omae mona wrote:What's up with deleting the original post?
The guy is out of his mind.wangta wrote:I'm especially careful in Korea where the immi people and police (and there's a shitload of them around and just as many military around) are just itching to find a reason to delay your travel plans no matter how nice the other K staff are.
I love the way he turned this into yet another anti-Korea rant.
wangta wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:omae mona wrote:What's up with deleting the original post?
The guy is out of his mind.wangta wrote:I'm especially careful in Korea where the immi people and police (and there's a shitload of them around and just as many military around) are just itching to find a reason to delay your travel plans no matter how nice the other K staff are.
I love the way he turned this into yet another anti-Korea rant.
I love your obsession with the way I refer to my travelling experiences outside Japan as if you're the only person who's allowed to do that. I sense you're an ageing gaijin who goes to Harajuku and watches all the young people, taking not so surreptitious photos with your 'I've got an I Phone'.
I am coming to Tokyo. I'll know you when I see the balding, dumpy gaijin with the Asahi Supa Dry beergut snivelling outside the local NHK office, offering to pay the NHK fee because he watches tv with a tv tuner on his laptop.
kurogane wrote:The easiest way to avoid any problems is to just have a hotel address ready for that box on the landing card. I usually use a Toyoko Inn in Oi-machi because I have the address written down in my little book for some reason. It's just about filling in boxes and ticking off checklists after all. Trying to buck the game is like kicking a sleeping Rottweiler.
kurogane wrote:The passport copy request thingy has been very uneven for a few years: some ask, some don't.
As a general question, why does anybody even breathe harder over being asked for ID anywhere anytime at all? My impression has always been that it is more one of those sophomoric Anglo-American things; that permanent adolescent obsession with childish prinicples over intelligence, if you will. Do any of us not so cursed by birth actually get excited about it?
chokonen888 wrote:kurogane wrote:The easiest way to avoid any problems is to just have a hotel address ready for that box on the landing card. I usually use a Toyoko Inn in Oi-machi because I have the address written down in my little book for some reason. It's just about filling in boxes and ticking off checklists after all. Trying to buck the game is like kicking a sleeping Rottweiler.
Pretty much thiskurogane wrote:The passport copy request thingy has been very uneven for a few years: some ask, some don't.
As a general question, why does anybody even breathe harder over being asked for ID anywhere anytime at all? My impression has always been that it is more one of those sophomoric Anglo-American things; that permanent adolescent obsession with childish prinicples over intelligence, if you will. Do any of us not so cursed by birth actually get excited about it?
Asking to see your I.D. is no biggie, we have to do it all the time in kaigailand when we use CC, no? It's taking a copy of your I.D. that's just unnecessary and with identity theft rampant, just a risk not worth taking. They want to verify your info, fine...but I have at least two bank accounts in this country that I've opened using nothing but keitai pics/scans of IDs so yeah, a copy of your passport can really fuck you over if it falls in the wrong hands.
Wage Slave wrote:I don't get annoyed by being asked for ID at all. I can't see why it is of the slightest offence and some people will use identity fraud to gain an unfair advantage and even commit crime. Nor do I care about being fingerprinted at immigration - provided it is fast and clean. What's the problem? All people are seeking to do is verify your identity in situations where it is important.
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