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Re: Looking for the Japanese Elon Musk

Postby wagyl » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:24 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Unpaid overtime is as American as mom and apple pie and the military industrial complex.

Don't tell me, tell Matsuki.
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Re: Looking for the Japanese Elon Musk

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:25 pm

wagyl wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Unpaid overtime is as American as mom and apple pie and the military industrial complex.

Don't tell me, tell Matsuki.


Overtime update for American workers long overdue, reports say

Only 18% of all US workers are eligible to receive overtime pay – and studies suggest raising the overtime threshold considerably

Millions of American are working more than 40 hours a week, but receive no overtime pay. And these aren't well-paid workers: they're deli managers, cooks, and others, who make as little as $460 a week.

As the Department of Labor thinks about the best way to ensure workers are compensated fairly, thinktanks have come out in support of changing overtime laws and raising a threshold that determines the salary at which US workers are no longer eligible for overtime pay. The briefs published in the past few months propose thresholds ranging from $960 a week to $1,327 a week, as opposed to the current threshold of $455 a week.

For eligible workers, overtime is paid at 1.5 times the hourly rate for every hour worked in excess of eight hours in a day or 40 hours in a week.

One of the more common misconceptions of overtime pay is that salaried workers don't qualify. They do qualify, but only if their weekly salary is below an established threshold. The threshold of $455 was last updated in 2004,which did little to expand the pool of eligible workers. Overtime exempt workers must pass a "duties test", like being in charge of two or more full-time employees for a fraction of their work week, or holding a supervisory position.

To avoid paying overtime, all employers have to do is give their workers a little responsibility, and set their worker's salary at as low as $460. As a result, fast food cooks who run the kitchen during their shift, or deli managers in charge of the store, can miss out on hundred of dollars a month in overtime pay.
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Re: Looking for the Japanese Elon Musk

Postby matsuki » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:35 pm

Wags, don't go full Take on us:

SpaceX has not yet made a counterfiling, though it has denied the claims made in the complaint to Motherboard, adding that it plans to refute them in court.


wagyl wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Unpaid overtime is as American as mom and apple pie and the military industrial complex.

Don't tell me, tell Matsuki.


I can't speak for other states but California makes it pretty easy to anonymously bust employers trying to pull that type of shit. Whether the issue above is true or not, how many publicized cases like that have you seen here in "unique" Japan?
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Re: Looking for the Japanese Elon Musk

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:06 pm

matsuki wrote:Wags, don't go full Take on us:

SpaceX has not yet made a counterfiling, though it has denied the claims made in the complaint to Motherboard, adding that it plans to refute them in court.


wagyl wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Unpaid overtime is as American as mom and apple pie and the military industrial complex.

Don't tell me, tell Matsuki.


I can't speak for other states but California makes it pretty easy to anonymously bust employers trying to pull that type of shit. Whether the issue above is true or not, how many publicized cases like that have you seen here in "unique" Japan?


Did you read the article I posted right above this? Compliance with labor standards isn't the problem.
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Re: Looking for the Japanese Elon Musk

Postby matsuki » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:29 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:Wags, don't go full Take on us:

SpaceX has not yet made a counterfiling, though it has denied the claims made in the complaint to Motherboard, adding that it plans to refute them in court.


wagyl wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Unpaid overtime is as American as mom and apple pie and the military industrial complex.

Don't tell me, tell Matsuki.


I can't speak for other states but California makes it pretty easy to anonymously bust employers trying to pull that type of shit. Whether the issue above is true or not, how many publicized cases like that have you seen here in "unique" Japan?


Did you read the article I posted right above this? Compliance with labor standards isn't the problem.


Just did and that is indeed fucked where that threshold is set. I've either been valuable (or lucky) enough to have always been taken care of when I worked in LA, regardless of the labor law or pay. The only conflict I ever had was regarding a really delayed switch over from contractor to full time employee and how it fucked me out of worker comp but I eventually got paid. (and the company got audited :twisted: )
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Re: Looking for the Japanese Elon Musk

Postby wagyl » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:05 pm

matsuki wrote:Wags, don't go full Take on us:

SpaceX has not yet made a counterfiling, though it has denied the claims made in the complaint to Motherboard, adding that it plans to refute them in court.


wagyl wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Unpaid overtime is as American as mom and apple pie and the military industrial complex.

Don't tell me, tell Matsuki.


I can't speak for other states but California makes it pretty easy to anonymously bust employers trying to pull that type of shit. Whether the issue above is true or not, how many publicized cases like that have you seen here in "unique" Japan?

My apologies. Once again I failed to comprehend that your numerous critical mentions of service zangyo in a Japanese environment meant "Japan and the US are little different." I really am just slow.
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Re: Looking for the Japanese Elon Musk

Postby matsuki » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:20 pm

wagyl wrote:
matsuki wrote:Wags, don't go full Take on us:

SpaceX has not yet made a counterfiling, though it has denied the claims made in the complaint to Motherboard, adding that it plans to refute them in court.


wagyl wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Unpaid overtime is as American as mom and apple pie and the military industrial complex.

Don't tell me, tell Matsuki.


I can't speak for other states but California makes it pretty easy to anonymously bust employers trying to pull that type of shit. Whether the issue above is true or not, how many publicized cases like that have you seen here in "unique" Japan?

My apologies. Once again I failed to comprehend that your numerous critical mentions of service zangyo in a Japanese environment meant "Japan and the US are little different." I really am just slow.


Different states, different laws. Anyhow, regardless of state/country, I just hate seeing people get used by employers. (even if it is voluntary...shoganai shoganai etc.)
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