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Wage Slave wrote:Anyone else struggling a bit with the vaccination this year? Painful arm for days and the equivalent of a heavy cold for me. It's worth it no doubt but can't help feeling a bit pissed off about it.
kurogane wrote:Yeah, I figured it was a rugrat factor. So is that to protect them from you or you from them? I am all for immunisation, but outside the vulnerable categories it seems to me that flu shots have a manufactured need aspect and that either getting it or not is a better public health measure. I am not oppposed to it or anything, FTR, just mildly curious or skeptical of the broader need. I get why somebody that can't afford to get it would go for a jab. I find needles scary so I prefer to get my immunity the olde fashioned way.
kurogane wrote:PS Nobody in the prime dies from flu. Statisticamalistic fact. It's a Darwinian cleanser.
Most influenza outbreaks disproportionately kill juvenile, elderly, or already weakened patients; in contrast, the 1918 pandemic predominantly killed previously healthy young adults. Modern research, using virus taken from the bodies of frozen victims, has concluded that the virus kills through a cytokine storm (overreaction of the body's immune system). The strong immune reactions of young adults ravaged the body, whereas the weaker immune systems of children and middle-aged adults resulted in fewer deaths among those groups.
Russell wrote:kurogane wrote:PS Nobody in the prime dies from flu. Statisticamalistic fact. It's a Darwinian cleanser.
Except in 1918...Most influenza outbreaks disproportionately kill juvenile, elderly, or already weakened patients; in contrast, the 1918 pandemic predominantly killed previously healthy young adults. Modern research, using virus taken from the bodies of frozen victims, has concluded that the virus kills through a cytokine storm (overreaction of the body's immune system). The strong immune reactions of young adults ravaged the body, whereas the weaker immune systems of children and middle-aged adults resulted in fewer deaths among those groups.
Wage Slave wrote:Still not feeling very good but I am now of a view it is very little to do with the flu jab. I just happened to have a cold on board but not yet manifest when I had the thing. This happens quite often with vaccinations. People get sick all the time, sometimes with quite horrible things that strike out of nowhere. By the laws of chance a vaccination and illness will coincide now and again. Cue 2 + 2 = 5 and demands for substantial monetary compensation. To be fair people are often desperate for the money to fund treatment and care, in the US anyway, but of course the root of that problem lies elsewhere.
Russell wrote:So, got this heavy cold with 39+ degrees fevers.
I went to two doctors on Saturday, but neither of them could detect flu, leaving me with a conundrum of what it actually is.
Coligny wrote:Ya want me to come check on you guyz in my sexy nurse uniform ?
Taro Toporific wrote:Coligny wrote:Ya want me to come check on you guyz in my sexy nurse uniform ?
Nah, but you send your hinky sister over so I can practice my rusty French.
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