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Mising U.S. sailor thought lost at sea off Japan found hiding aboard own ship
The Japan Times (japantimes.co.jp) June 18, 2017
The fuck-ups just get better and better...
Takechanpoo wrote:All of 7 the Missing U.S. sailors found [b]dead
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ja ... e2846fd6ee
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/0 ... UX6BqIgduk
fucking damn japan times have no bones about distorting the facts for their political doctrine.
Taro Toporific wrote:Petty Officer Mims could have been in the engineering spaces of the guided-missile cruiser:• Faking his death
• Smoking dope off-duty
♥ Trying out buttsex with an electrified belaying pin while dressed in his granny's lingerie
Presumed dead after going missing June 8, Gas Turbine Systems Technician (Mechanical) 3rd Class Peter Mims reportedly hid himself in one of the engine rooms, according to two sources familiar with the situation.
TennoChinko wrote:According to this article, Mims went missing on the 8th of June (well before the collision ):
https://www.navytimes.com/articles/surp ... g-on-boardPresumed dead after going missing June 8, Gas Turbine Systems Technician (Mechanical) 3rd Class Peter Mims reportedly hid himself in one of the engine rooms, according to two sources familiar with the situation.
Wage Slave wrote:TennoChinko wrote:According to this article, Mims went missing on the 8th of June (well before the collision ):
https://www.navytimes.com/articles/surp ... g-on-boardPresumed dead after going missing June 8, Gas Turbine Systems Technician (Mechanical) 3rd Class Peter Mims reportedly hid himself in one of the engine rooms, according to two sources familiar with the situation.
It was a completely different ship in a completely different sea.
wagyl wrote:After all, the Royal Navy traditionally encourages a very similar triplex of activities: rum, sodomy and the lash.
Fire Controlman 1st Class Gary Rehm, three months short of retirement, saved 20 sailors from a flooding compartment on the Fitzgerald. He drowned after he went back in for the last six of his "kids." "He said, 'If my kids die, I'm going to die.'"
http://www.thedailybeast.com/navy-sailo ... ie-trying/
No fucking excuse.
None.
There is no mystery here.
The Underway Officer of the Deck Fucked UP so bad it’s difficult to imagine. I’ve been OOD in and out of Yokosuka—USS REEVES (CG-24); about the same displacement—a hundred times; during all times of day, night, adverse weather, and wee hours. In fact, coming into Yokosuka, 4 am in that part of the entry lanes is quite common, so we’d be tied up by the morning’s work day and shipyard workers could get busy.
The Captain fucked up by having someone so incompetent as OOD. They both need to go down hard, full force; because there is no excuse. None. That’s the Navy tradition that has always served the surface fleet well. Ultimate accountability, no passes ever. Your career is over. …And all this bullshit in the NYP article about ship-to-ship comms is utter nonsense. Almost never happens and even if you try, you almost never get a response. With commercial vessels, you instead always assume it’s on auto-pilot, there’s one dude—if anyone at all—on the bridge, he’s drunk, and probably asleep.
This shit is easy to avoid, even in very heavy choke-point shipping traffic in and out. Surface radar easily has a 30k ton container ship painted 20-30 miles out, and you can see them with your own eyeballs 10-12 miles out. Once you do a minute of scope head plotting with the grease pencil, you can see how close you’ll come to each other if both vessels maintain course and speed. If inside of 10,000 yards (5 nautical miles), all it takes is a 2-5 degree course change, early, to port or starboard, to keep him outside of that envelope.
And, every set of Standing Orders on US Navy ships typically demands that if for some reason it’s unavoidable to keep another vessel outside of 10k yards, you are to notify the Captain immediately.
It’s a complete fuck up, and now eight people are dead...
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CrankyBastard wrote:Unwritten rule of the road, 'If it's gray, stay away!'
Coligny wrote:CrankyBastard wrote:Unwritten rule of the road, 'If it's gray, stay away!'
Weird, I see several times a week ro-ro car carriers that have the whole hull painted light gray. Thought it was for milships only...
The U.S. Navy has removed the two senior officers and the senior enlisted sailor on a U.S. warship that almost sank off the coast of Japan in June after it was struck by a Philippine container ship, the Navy said on Friday.
Multiple investigations have yet to apportion blame for the accident that killed seven U.S. sailors aboard the guided missile destroyer the USS Fitzgerald.
However, the punishments are the first public admission by the U.S. Navy that mistakes by the crew contributed to the deadliest incident on a U.S. warship since Islamist extremists bombed the USS Cole in Yemen's Aden harbor in 2000.
"The collision was avoidable and both ships demonstrated poor seamanship. Within Fitzgerald, flawed watch stander teamwork and inadequate leadership contributed to the collision," the U.S. Seventh Fleet said in a media release.
In the first detailed account from one of those directly involved in the collision in the early hours of June 17, the captain of the cargo ship the ACX Crystal said in a report seen by Reuters his crew signaled the Fitzgerald with flashing lights around 10 minutes before the collision. The Fitzgerald did not respond or alter course, it said..
The commercial vessel had the right-of-way under maritime rules and the Fitzgerald, which was hit on the starboard side, was likely at fault.
Several U.S. and Japanese investigations are still under way into how the Fitzgerald and the much larger ACX Crystal collided in clear weather south of Tokyo Bay.
One pertinent question, said two naval officers who spoke on condition of anonymity, is what was happening at the time in the Fitzgerald's Combat Information Center, where crew members monitor radar that should have detected the approach of a 30,000-ton cargo vessel.
Commander Bryce Benson was relieved "due to a loss of confidence in his ability to lead", the Seventh Fleet said.
Commander Sean Babbitt and Master Chief Petty Officer Brice Baldwin "contributed to the lack of watch stander preparedness and readiness that was evident in the events leading up to the collision", it said.
Several other junior officers have also been relieved, with administrative action taken against other members of the ship's watch teams.
"SERIOUS MISTAKES"
Admiral Bill Moran, deputy chief of naval operations, told a media briefing earlier in Washington that about nine sailors would face administrative punishments.
"Serious mistakes were made by members of the crew, and there was no benefit to waiting on taking accountability actions," Moran said.
An official report released on Thursday contained dramatic accounts of what happened when the freighter hit the Fitzgerald.
The collision, at 1:30 a.m. local time, tore a gash below the Fitzgerald's waterline and sent water pouring into the warship, the report said.
"Water on deck," sailors in a berthing area started yelling. "Get out," they shouted as mattresses, furniture, and even an exercise bicycle began to float.
The berthing was completely flooded within 60 seconds, although more than two dozen of the 35 sailors in it escaped. The last sailor to be rescued was in the bathroom at the time of the collision.
"Lockers were floating past him, ... at one point he was pinned between the lockers and the ceiling of Berthing 2, but was able to reach for a pipe in the ceiling to pull himself free," the report said.
Two sailors stayed at the foot of the ladder in the compartment to help others escape.
"The choices made by these two sailors likely saved the lives of at least two of their shipmates," the report said.
Benson was trapped in his cabin and five sailors used a sledgehammer to break through the door.
"Even after the door was open, there was a large amount of debris and furniture against the door, preventing anyone from entering or exiting easily," the report said.
The sailors tied themselves to each other with a belt and rescued Benson, who was hanging from the side of the ship.
An official report released on Thursday contained dramatic accounts of what happened when the freighter hit the Fitzgerald.
Russell wrote:With a Navy like that, who needs enemies?
US destroyer USS John S McCain damaged after collision with oil tanker
This one was supposedly going to patrol in the South China sea...
matsuki wrote:Russell wrote:With a Navy like that, who needs enemies?
US destroyer USS John S McCain damaged after collision with oil tanker
This one was supposedly going to patrol in the South China sea...
More incompetence (puts on tinfoil hat) or maybe it's destination had something to do with the collision?
The Alnic MC is an oil tanker that sails under the Liberian flag. It is 182m (600ft) long and has a deadweight tonnage of 50,760. None of its crew were hurt in the incident.
legion wrote:Where's my tinfoil hat when I need it?
wagyl wrote:legion wrote:Where's my tinfoil hat when I need it?
Your tinfoil hat floated away, flying the flag of Panama (along with 2,371 other Japanese vessels).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience
Anyway, I offer my congratulations to the US Navy in successfully getting reports of 7 fatalities off the news cycle, by creating a potentially bigger story.
A basis for many criticisms is that the flag-of-convenience system allows shipowners to be legally anonymous and difficult to prosecute in civil and criminal actions.
Wage Slave wrote:Suppose that tanker was actually under the control of North Korea or China which is quite possible. And suppose it set out to hit an American warship. If that warship was being sailed even barely competently, the tanker would have zero chance of hitting it - by design or by accident.
Was everyone on the bridge drunk? Asleep? That ship is equipped to detect any possible threat sea or air, is amazingly agile for its size and they managed to sail into the path of a lumbering supertanker?
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