Will Japan be the new Malaysia?

[Samurai_Jerk]

I chose Malaysia but it could have just as easily been Indonesia or a number of other SE Asian nations. I know it's not a perfect comparison but my question is really will Japan become another country where a small but rich and powerful overseas Chinese minority makes most of the money and drives much of the business while the natives retain control of the government and other traditional institutions?

I've recently met several unrelated Chinese people with regular middle class jobs who aren't married to a local and weren't born and raised here but have managed to gain Japanese citizenship in less than 10 years. I wondered how they did it and started thinking about the Chinese companies that have been entering Japan and the increase in the number of Chinese immigrants and this idea popped into my head.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm on the "highly likely" team by the way.

[FG Lurker]

I'm on the "highly likely" team by the way.

That option isn't on the list.

[alicia454]

A Chinese old friend of mime from Canada came to visit me last year while on holidays in Asia.

Although he absolutely did not know any Japanese (except for 2 or 3 words), the locals would typically treat him as one of their own, until he opened his mouth. Especially when he was by himself. (Yes, I know that they are some uniquely Japanese facial features, such as the long flat faces, but a large significant percentage of local Japanese do not have those features and look more like the Han Chinese.)

Chinese and Korean physical features are close enough to many local Japanese, that they can easily blend in. Something that those of us of European decent can not.

If you are a racist government official, who would you object to the most? A Chinese that physically blends in, or a European that stands out?

[FG Lurker]

If you are a racist government official, who would you object to the most? A Chinese that physically blends in, or a European that stands out?

Sometimes I really wonder if you have ever lived in Japan.

[Samurai_Jerk]

If you are a racist government official, who would you object to the most? A Chinese that physically blends in, or a European that stands out?

Your rhetorical questions isn't that rhetorical considering you obviously don't know the right answer. You are one cuckoo broad.

[IparryU]

Ya repeat that?

O_o

[Samurai_Jerk]

That option isn't on the list.

Oh, I think I forgot to say fuck off

[eddie]

A Chinese old friend of mime from Canada came to visit me last year while on holidays in Asia.

Although he absolutely did not know any Japanese (except for 2 or 3 words), the locals would typically treat him as one of their own, until he opened his mouth.

why would a mime even speak?

[Tsuru]

why would a mime even speak?

Damn

[Mulboyne]

Yomiuri survey (Japanese) says 84% of respondents indicated they don't trust China.

[alicia454]

All that I am saying is that my Chinese friend blended in as a Japanese local until he opened his mouth. I have always stood out as a foreigner, and have been treated as such in Japan.

It is my personal observation. Interpret it anyway you wish.

Any I apologies for any errors I make with my bad English. (I was born in a non-English country, and English is my second language.)

[Mulboyne]

All that I am saying is that my Chinese friend blended in as a Japanese local until he opened his mouth. I have always stood out as a foreigner, and have been treated as such in Japan.

I think people took you to be saying that the average Japanese is more likely to be tolerant of a Chinese national in Japan than a white Westerner, knowing both to be foreigners. I don't think this is true.

Instead, it seems you are saying that the average Japanese will tolerate - or accept - someone they assume is Japanese over someone they assume isn't. I don't think you'll get so much argument over that.

[nottu]

[IparryU]

The latter, I believe, was the target of the objections.
That said, I enjoy Alecia's comments, especially the technical computer jive - its a turn on - no kidding. I wish she would post more often.

more computer jive please?

[kurogane]

A Chinese old friend of mime from Canada came to visit me last year while on holidays in Asia.

Although he absolutely did not know any Japanese (except for 2 or 3 words), the locals would typically treat him as one of their own, until he opened his mouth. Especially when he was by himself. (Yes, I know that they are some uniquely Japanese facial features, such as the long flat faces, but a large significant percentage of local Japanese do not have those features and look more like the Han Chinese.) Chinese and Korean physical features are close enough to many local Japanese, that they can easily blend in. Something that those of us of European decent can not.

Wow. Its been weeks since I have heard that crap. It does sound like her Chinese friend was descended from a long line of decent mimes, so good for him/her.

If you are a racist government official, who would you object to the most? A Chinese that physically blends in, or a European that stands out?

The answer is the former, but the question is hilariously BBS Japan.

Does anybody really think Japanese look structurally different from any other NE Asian group? Keep in mind you have to factor for cultural accoutrementation (hair, makeup, dress).

[Takechanpoo]

the notable difference is relatively high percentage of hairy ppl in japan than them.
one sample

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https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%E6%B ... lP8gpsM%3A
hes not mixed with any other non-japanese.

[TennoChinko]

Akihiro Nagashima -- he's currently very tight with (former) Yamaguchi Gumi guys. They helped him get inside Toyota as a 'sports' advisor. A big cheerleader for mob-backed interests to legalize casino-style gambling.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Does anybody really think Japanese look structurally different from any other NE Asian group? Keep in mind you have to factor for cultural accoutrementation (hair, makeup, dress).

Not really but there are certain phenotypes that are more common in some groups than others. There are definitely a lot more Japanese who resemble that guy Nagashima posted above by Takechan then there are Koreans who look like him and Takechan is right that Japanese men tend to have more facial and body hair than Koreans, Mongolians, or Han Chinese.

I'm willing to bet though that some of these "pure" Japanese (or Korean or whatever) people who look mixed have someone in their family tree they're keeping secret or aren't aware of. My family didn't know my immigrant German grandmother was Jewish till I was in my 30's and she had been in the ground for more than a decade. A lot of crazy shit can go down during war and some people find it easier to just pretend it didn't happen and go on with life.

[matsuki]

I'm willing to bet though that some of these "pure" Japanese (or Korean or whatever) people who look mixed have someone in their family tree they're keeping secret or aren't aware of. My family didn't know my immigrant German grandmother was Jewish till I was in my 30's and she had been in the ground for more than a decade. A lot of crazy shit can go down during war and some people find it easier to just pretend it didn't happen and go on with life.

In Japan? Noooo way! If ever there was a place where people were motivated to hide non-local ancestors...

[kurogane]

Now, sure. But that also reflects your peer group, which sounds far more internationally or just plain Foreign!! LOL oriented, and sometimes even a little slavish to that crap judging by some stuff you write. Besides, as you have pointed out it's the new 1/8 Cherokee thing like we have. Not that there's anything wrong with that. My ex FinL was decidedly unhappy about the prospect of a blue eyed grandson, and he was a trained chemist. Once I pointed out there was a law for that he laughed and felt stupid, but if a professionally trained bombmaker can think that sort of BS????

SJ,
Aaaah, I quite forgot to mention the war. Yes, very good point. I agree on the percentage of strikingly non-typical looking Japanese and esp. the body hair thing, which is obviously an Ainu Thang, but I wonder how much of that is our and their fetish for The Exception. The studies at Kyoto U showed a remarkable inability to distinguish between the 4 NE Asian nationals when dressed in plain smocks without makeup, and there's that old internet one of Spot the Japanese that was good silly fun. I don't know shiite about ethnic distribution in the Chinas or Korea, but it could very well be their own minorities are both Ainuesque or non-typical but are still marginalised enough they aren't represented or even seen as much, plus there are less of them by percentage and by historical admixture. I discount Far West Chinese (the Turkics) and any White Russian Koreans for obvious phenotypical differentialisationalisms.

[matsuki]

I didn't really mean now as much as in the past...I think it's much more accepted now but even then, there are the "purist” assholes who will go to that type of shit.

[kurogane]

Yeah, I totally misread your previous post. TOATssssssssss LOLzzzzzzzzzz

Anyways, Yes. Muchly muchly. There is a nascent 1/8 Cherokee Nation groove lately, but that's amongst the flakey Kokusai crowd at the Raibu Hausu Amateur Bando nights. Junsooey seems to be the default. To be fair, that is the actual default but that then raises the question of why they even feel the need to raise it since it it is so F'in obvious. I get fairly serious tooth sucking when they find out I am monoethnic (by blood) and they don't get to raise my Mongrel Immigrant background, like they were hoping to do. And that's the "Nice People", not the nice people SJ drinks with in Asakoosa. It might be worth it to write a fake anthropology that purports to resurrect phrenology as a legitimate pursuit. They already think it is anyways.

[matsuki]

It might be worth it to write a fake anthropology that purports to resurrect phrenology as a legitimate pursuit. They already think it is anyways.

http://gizmodo.com/heres-why-we-ll-even ... 1746216328

[Buraku]

Man Live Streaming Himself Riding His Motorcycle Gets Destroyed By A Semi

a mohammedan country which claims to be 'truly Asia'

https://vidmax.com/video/227203-man-liv ... -by-a-semi

One of the dead riders was Mohammad Sharfie Sukri, 21



‘Waste colonialism’ in Malaysia due to massive imports of plastic waste from Japan
https://aliran.com/civil-society-voices ... from-japan

[Coligny]

Are you aware of the existence of kaotic.com ? It’s like efukt.com but for all categories of degenarations…