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Postby vir-jin » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:11 am

Did you ever do the cube game?

I am doing a research on it with Japanese for two years and want to proof that the materials chosen by Japanese and Westerners contribute to their surrounding culture.

Get a piece of paper and draw the following items

a cube ( choose a material and a color)
a horse (race and color)- no artist was able to draw a horse ;-)
the horizont
a typhoon
a ladder

This should be a composition somehow (non artists had some problems and just drew the items in an order).

Post the drawing as a reply.
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If you are in a hurry, words do it too.
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Postby Charles » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:21 am

You know, I used to do something similar when I worked in a prepress shop. One day I was talking on the phone to a customer, trying to explain their headline didn't span the whole page width, and if they increased the point size (height) the headline would be wider too, and fit better. But the customer just did not have any idea of what I was talking about. I came to the conclusion that most people cannot think visually. So I devised this simple test:

Close your eyes. Visualize a square. Above it, visualize a circle. To the right of the circle, visualize a triangle. Now draw it on a piece of paper.

I was astonished to discover that only about 25% of the general population could accurately reproduce the diagram. Visual thinking is rarer than I suspected.
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Postby Mulboyne » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:51 am

Taro's grey andalusian snorted and tossed her head as he turned south. Looking at the horizon, he sensed a typhoon would soon be upon them. The perfect time to roll his red, velvet dice with the Ladder-man.
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Postby omae mona » Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:02 am

Charles wrote:You know, I used to do something similar when I worked in a prepress shop. One day I was talking on the phone to a customer, trying to explain their headline didn't span the whole page width, and if they increased the point size (height) the headline would be wider too, and fit better. But the customer just did not have any idea of what I was talking about. I came to the conclusion that most people cannot think visually. So I devised this simple test:

Close your eyes. Visualize a square. Above it, visualize a circle. To the right of the circle, visualize a triangle. Now draw it on a piece of paper.

I was astonished to discover that only about 25% of the general population could accurately reproduce the diagram. Visual thinking is rarer than I suspected.


I'm sensing a recurring theme here. Charles, is it possible that your verbal communication skills are not quite as good as your writing skills? :)
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Postby Charles » Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:33 am

omae mona wrote:I'm sensing a recurring theme here. Charles, is it possible that your verbal communication skills are not quite as good as your writing skills? :)

Unlikely. At one time, I was a rather sought-after lecturer and instructor, I gave presentations in front of auditoriums full of hundreds of people, I even won a few awards. I never had any complaints about clarity, in fact, I had a good reputation for making difficult topics clearly understandable.

And look again at the short test. I refined it repeatedly until it was as simple as possible, just to eliminate any chance it was me, not them. It was them.
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Postby vir-jin » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:40 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Taro's grey andalusian snorted and tossed her head as he turned south. Looking at the horizon, he sensed a typhoon would soon be upon them. The perfect time to roll his red, velvet dice with the Ladder-man.
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Mulboyne, you try to get Taro's woman, this will cause a lot of problems (the typhoon!). Besides you are the first to choose red velvet with a Ladder-man. You will need it I guess:-)

Red velvet, sounds like Renaissance London Chancery Court Hotel's wedding suite where you might have a chance to spend a night with this pure andalusian blood highbred until Taro comes over to spoil the fun with his samurai sword! You should realize you plans as soon as possible! :P
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Postby vir-jin » Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:44 pm

Charles wrote:
omae mona wrote:I'm sensing a recurring theme here. Charles, is it possible that your verbal communication skills are not quite as good as your writing skills? :)

Unlikely. At one time, I was a rather sought-after lecturer and instructor, I gave presentations in front of auditoriums full of hundreds of people, I even won a few awards. I never had any complaints about clarity, in fact, I had a good reputation for making difficult topics clearly understandable.

And look again at the short test. I refined it repeatedly until it was as simple as possible, just to eliminate any chance it was me, not them. It was them.


May I ask you for your drawings, gentlemen?
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Psycho test statistic crocheted rope lader in the twiligt

Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:45 pm

vir-jin wrote:
cube
the horizont
a typhoon
a ladder a horse (race and color)- no artist was able to draw a horse

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It was getting late in the afternnoon---that moment in twilight when lights seem obscene to use but my vision was not very accurate either. I could see in the woodgrain of the door a horizon. Below the horizon a hurricane started to form in the grain. Lucky for me my pig-palomino pony "Quest" gave me a boost up my Metolius Pocket Rope Ladder(tm) and were I made this iSight video snap of my drawing of the whole event.
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Postby Charles » Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:13 am

vir-jin wrote:May I ask you for your drawings, gentlemen?

Alright already. Jeez, it took me 20 minutes to locate my old drawing box, and I couldn't find my good drawing box with all my best materials in it. So all I have are some crappy odds and ends, especially now that I just knocked a box of my best conte crayons off my desk and broke them all into little bits. And I could only locate a pad with 3 sheets of decent paper. I waste more paper than that just warming up.
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And I have no space to work whatsoever. I would never consider drawing on a computer, it just doesn't work for me. And I make a horrible mess when I draw. One of my teachers used to assert that if you're not erasing more than you're drawing, you're not really drawing. Then my other teacher would bitch at me for blowing away eraser crumbs and charcoal dust because she thought she'd get lung disease. Sheesh.
But I will work on it. You know that since I majored in drawing, of course I can't draw for shit and I hate drawing more than anything. I haven't even drawn a single image in almost 10 years.
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bi polar quest

Postby vir-jin » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:32 pm

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It was getting late in the afternnoon---that moment in twilight when lights seem obscene to use but my vision was not very accurate either. I could see in the woodgrain of the door a horizon. Below the horizon a hurricane started to form in the grain. Lucky for me my pig-palomino pony "Quest" gave me a boost up my Metolius Pocket Rope Ladder(tm) and were I made this iSight video snap of my drawing of the whole event.[/quote]

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....the street lights had already turned on, but Quest couldn't stop watching way down into the dark blue black Tokyo sky where Taro had disappeared together with the Metolius Pocket Rope Ladder (tm). all his dear friends that had supported him to get to climb the 10006240 mark mourned, iSight sighed and rotated helpless in the background when Quest turned around to jump, run and search on a rainbow after her hero.
When she landed in the middle of the flower garden on vir- jins glass cube, she shaved her fluffy hair entirely with the ladder man, decided to never fall in love with a premium member again and ran away with vir- jins wild spirited, ragged haired iceland- viking breed 'Bi Polar' that had finally given up to enter the glass cube. It was already afternoon when they were seen last, disappearing at the desert gobi's flimmering horizont in a sandstorm.
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Postby vir-jin » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:43 pm

Charles wrote:
vir-jin wrote:May I ask you for your drawings, gentlemen?

Alright already. Jeez, it took me 20 minutes to locate my old drawing box, and I couldn't find my good drawing box with all my best materials in it. So all I have are some crappy odds and ends, especially now that I just knocked a box of my best conte crayons off my desk and broke them all into little bits. And I could only locate a pad with 3 sheets of decent paper. I waste more paper than that just warming up.
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And I have no space to work whatsoever. I would never consider drawing on a computer, it just doesn't work for me. And I make a horrible mess when I draw. One of my teachers used to assert that if you're not erasing more than you're drawing, you're not really drawing. Then my other teacher would bitch at me for blowing away eraser crumbs and charcoal dust because she thought she'd get lung disease. Sheesh.
But I will work on it. You know that since I majored in drawing, of course I can't draw for shit and I hate drawing more than anything. I haven't even drawn a single image in almost 10 years.


Charles, you just proofed that you really are an artist. I bet that you are not going to draw this little pic even if I insist on it- inspiration may be one thing, the equipment another but the way you are winding is just 1000 % an artists soul. :D
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Postby Charles » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:58 pm

vir-jin wrote:Charles, you just proofed that you really are an artist. I bet that you are not going to draw this little pic even if I insist on it- inspiration may be one thing, the equipment another but the way you are winding is just 1000 % an artists soul. :D

ha.. you know what artists are like, it's all about the process, not the result. And besides, I do nonobjective drawing, so this doesn't really inspire me.

I actually am doing a drawing, but it relies on a perspective effect, and I can't find a ruler small enough for my desk, all I have is a huge ruler about 1.5 meters long. So I decided to lay it out in a 3d package. But I'm sure as hell not going to model a horse or a typhoon in Maya 6. I'll finish it tomorrow, when I'm not so tired.
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Postby vir-jin » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:31 pm

Charles wrote:
vir-jin wrote:Charles, you just proofed that you really are an artist. I bet that you are not going to draw this little pic even if I insist on it- inspiration may be one thing, the equipment another but the way you are winding is just 1000 % an artists soul. :D

ha.. you know what artists are like, it's all about the process, not the result. And besides, I do nonobjective drawing, so this doesn't really inspire me.

I actually am doing a drawing, but it relies on a perspective effect, and I can't find a ruler small enough for my desk, all I have is a huge ruler about 1.5 meters long. So I decided to lay it out in a 3d package. But I'm sure as hell not going to model a horse or a typhoon in Maya 6. I'll finish it tomorrow, when I'm not so tired.


I will wait for your drawing patiently- this is the second night I didn't sleep and there is one more to come. Only the fucked gaijin network keeps me awake from time to time while I am preparing for the test on light arrangements tomorrow, try to write two reports for the day after tomorrow and design my first sake bowl in maki e for tomorrows lesson.
Isn't it wonderful to be young and full of energy? I don't feel sleepy at all :robot: :!:
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