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Postby dimwit » Sun May 08, 2005 2:55 pm

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I was reading a story in a Canadian newspaper unrelated to Japan that mentioned some 'new age holistic healing' called 'Reiki'

I found this sitewhich refers to one Dr. Mikao Usui

I guess my question is: is this some new age mush largely an imagining of some North American, or does it have any roots in Japan?
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Dimwit is this some gardening question again?

Postby canman » Sun May 08, 2005 6:47 pm

"or does it have any roots in Japan?"
Man you must really love plants and everything about them. All your posts have something to do with it. :D
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby GuyJean » Sun May 08, 2005 7:21 pm

dimwit wrote:I guess my question is: is this some new age mush largely an imagining of some North American, or does it have any roots in Japan?
Wiki might help you with Reiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reiki

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Postby hakuman » Sun May 08, 2005 8:40 pm

I had reiki done on me after an accident in 1990. I was telling my (Japanese) wife about it last year, and she knew what it was, so it is at least present here. Cant say if it originated here or not though.
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Re: Dimwit is this some gardening question again?

Postby dimwit » Sun May 08, 2005 10:04 pm

canman wrote:"or does it have any roots in Japan?"
Man you must really love plants and everything about them. All your posts have something to do with it. :D


What because 3 million vegetables have visited the site (including me)?

My favorite quote

Yes, you can Reiki your car! One trip to Mt. Shasta I swear the only way we made it to the top was sending Reiki through the gearshift and dashbord into the car. Many people use Reiki on their food before eating. And much more.


Actually, I was reading a story in the Toronto Star about pimps using holistic therapy as a front for running brothels, and they talked to indignant 'reiki' specialist who was irked that it cheapened her reputation. :P
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Postby gomichild » Mon May 09, 2005 12:56 am

I'm as skeptical as they come...but I must admit that a friend practicing reiki on me did help a little with a problem I have...

And yes the hands do become hot....

Still wouldn't get me to pay for it but.
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Postby emperor » Mon May 09, 2005 3:52 am

My mum's a Reiki "Master".
She swears by it.
Although Im quite sceptical, maybe this is what that Jesus chap was doing all along... :wink:
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Postby Taka-Okami » Mon May 09, 2005 9:38 am

It originated in Japan. I have the 'first level' degree. Did it about 6 years ago but I am not practicing now. Basically you become a channel or conduit for the 'healing power' by laying on of hands. I did it for a few people and they just fell asleep, so I guess it is relaxing. But as for actual healing, I remain unconvinced.
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Postby Neo-Rio » Mon May 09, 2005 12:52 pm

Sounds like new-age crap if you ask me. The whole thing is a pseudoscience. I'm pretty sure it works like some kind of mental placebo effect. You start believing in it and you end up hypnotising yourself that it works.... and of course it then *really works*. It must make the practitioners feel better though - which is the whole point I think.

Shit, we don't need Reiki to get that effect anyway, we've already got the world religions getting a slice of the action.
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Postby zentogo » Mon May 09, 2005 2:09 pm

I was reading a story in a Canadian newspaper


See you shouldn't read anything Canadian. It never makes sense.

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Postby Lifer » Mon May 09, 2005 4:31 pm

I've heard that Reiki treatment is actually covered under Britain's national health insurance and many nurses there use it to help relax their patients.

My mother is a Reiki master and teacher and she swears it works wonders (I remain unconvinced, but have never been "treated".)

Reiki has a kind of cult image here in Japan, but in The West it is borderline New Agey Crap/acceptable practice. (About like accupuncture I suppose.)

(Information here comes from a student's speech regarding Reiki here in Japan - apparently she was a practitioner of it.)
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Postby AssKissinger » Mon May 09, 2005 4:38 pm

Reiki is BULLSHIT
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Postby nullpointer » Mon May 09, 2005 5:17 pm

AssKissinger wrote:Reiki is BULLSHIT


Thanks AK, you have me convinced that it is BULLSHIT
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu May 11, 2006 7:18 am

[SIZE="5"][font="Century Gothic"][color="DarkOrange"]When most people are sick or injured, they go to the doctor. Some people prefer other types of healing. One of these is Reiki [RAY-kee].

2 Reiki started in Japan with Dr. Mikao Usui. He was born in Japan on Aug.15, 1865. While growing up, he thirsted for knowledge. As part of his education, he traveled to China and Europe, where he studied medicine, psychology, and religion. After his return to Japan, he became secretary to the man in charge of the health department.

3 In 1914, Dr. Usui's health was failing. He had already spent a lot of time meditating on Japan's holy mountain, Mt. Kurama. He decided that the best way to help himself was to spend more time there in a course of fasting, meditation, and prayers. One of the forms of meditation involved a person standing under a small waterfall. The action of the water hitting the top or crown of the head was thought to stimulate the chakra. (The crown chakra is one of seven energy centers believed to be in the body.)

4 It was at this time that Dr. Usui received the Reiki energy that he would pass on to others. Though he already practiced healing arts, he found that this new energy enhanced what he could do. Since he could transfer healing energy to other people without losing what he had, he called it Reiki, meaning universal or life force energy.

5 Dr. Usui taught several people his new method of healing. One of those was Dr. Hayashi. Dr. Hayashi developed what he learned into a detailed method of teaching Reiki. His clinic in Tokyo kept very specific records of all treatments. It was due to his work that the standard hand positions were created.

6 Reiki was spread to North America and Europe by Mrs. Hawayo Takata. She was treated by Dr. Hayashi and went on to study with him. Originally from Hawaii, Mrs. Takata moved back there after completing her work and opened her own clinic. She continued teaching and working until she died at the age of 80.

7 You might wonder how Reiki works. The Reiki master generally lays hands on a person's body. Warming, healing energy is thought to flow from the Reiki master into the other person. There is no massage or strength needed. It is a technique even children can use by keeping their hands still for a few minutes.

8 Those who use Reiki believe that disease occurs in bodies whose life force is out of tune, or blocked in places. Acupuncture and therapeutic touch work on a similar principle. By using healing energy to tune the life force and remove blockages, health can be regained.

9 Since it was first put into use, Reiki has been used to cure many things. It is used not only for minor cuts and injuries, but also for broken bones, cancer, and heart disease.

10 Some people don't believe in things they cannot understand from text books or laboratory tests. They may not choose to use something like Reiki. If you choose to try it though, you might find a new path to better health.[/color][/font][/SIZE]
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby Cyka UchuuJin » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:26 pm

A friend of mine suggested I get some of this done on me, so whether it's bullshit or not, I want to give it a go.

Anyone know of reiki practioners in Tokyo?
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby wagyl » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:37 pm

What I would normally consider to be the usual gateway to a world of bullshit, the Nihon Reiki Kyokai webpage, is remarkably useless. However, this charlatan's salon in Akasaka has snagged the exciting domain http://reiki.bz/
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Postby Wage Slave » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:38 pm

Is that a 2 million Yen sofa?
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby Coligny » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:43 pm

Cyka UchuuJin wrote:A friend of mine suggested I get some of this done on me, so whether it's bullshit or not, I want to give it a go.

Anyone know of reiki practioners in Tokyo?


WTF... My great grandpa and grandpa were doing this... Talking Verdun circa 1930'

Either the method can't ressucitate cats or i didn't get the gift/skillz...

Even if it's just a placebo it's a good one. Better than a bad psychotherapy anyway...
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby Russell » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:50 pm

So, if my understanding is right, Reiki is the art of making one feel good by placing your hand on that person's body.

Where did I hear that before...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:12 pm

Russell wrote:So, if my understanding is right, Reiki is the art of making one feel good by placing your hand on that person's body.

Where did I hear that before...


No you don't even put your hands on their body. You just hold them above the body part you're apply the ju-ju too. :rolleyes:
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby Cyka UchuuJin » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:07 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Russell wrote:So, if my understanding is right, Reiki is the art of making one feel good by placing your hand on that person's body.

Where did I hear that before...


No you don't even put your hands on their body. You just hold them above the body part you're apply the ju-ju too. :rolleyes:


hands do get placed on the body, but very lightly and there's no movement.

found one in nakano, whether it's ju-ju or not, it definitely did something. the only way i can describe it is 'weird', but i guess that's normal for the first session.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:48 pm

Russell wrote:So, if my understanding is right, Reiki is the art of making one feel good by placing your hand on that person's body.

Where did I hear that before...


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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby American Oyaji » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:47 am

Cyka UchuuJin wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Russell wrote:So, if my understanding is right, Reiki is the art of making one feel good by placing your hand on that person's body.

Where did I hear that before...


No you don't even put your hands on their body. You just hold them above the body part you're apply the ju-ju too. :rolleyes:


hands do get placed on the body, but very lightly and there's no movement.

found one in nakano, whether it's ju-ju or not, it definitely did something. the only way i can describe it is 'weird', but i guess that's normal for the first session.


The Japanese lady that I go to for massage does this sometimes. For me it's like heat is flowing from her hands onto my back.
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:56 am

Cyka UchuuJin wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Russell wrote:So, if my understanding is right, Reiki is the art of making one feel good by placing your hand on that person's body.

Where did I hear that before...


No you don't even put your hands on their body. You just hold them above the body part you're apply the ju-ju too. :rolleyes:


hands do get placed on the body, but very lightly and there's no movement.

found one in nakano, whether it's ju-ju or not, it definitely did something. the only way i can describe it is 'weird', but i guess that's normal for the first session.


The only thing weird about it is you think that horseshit did something.
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby Cyka UchuuJin » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:00 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Cyka UchuuJin wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Russell wrote:So, if my understanding is right, Reiki is the art of making one feel good by placing your hand on that person's body.

Where did I hear that before...


No you don't even put your hands on their body. You just hold them above the body part you're apply the ju-ju too. :rolleyes:


hands do get placed on the body, but very lightly and there's no movement.

found one in nakano, whether it's ju-ju or not, it definitely did something. the only way i can describe it is 'weird', but i guess that's normal for the first session.


The only thing weird about it is you think that horseshit did something.


don't know about that, husband. i am the world's biggest skeptic on new age ju ju, and for most of the hour kept thinking 'this is ridiculous, if she's gonna put her hands on me, at least make it a massage.' , but when she was done, i was super dizzy for a few minutes, like i was going to hurl. and the whole way home i felt really quiet (and men everywhere rejoiced...) and 'weird'. i had one of the best nights sleep in years, and today my tinnitus is lessened and i feel really peaceful. and still i am telling myself that it's nonsense.

as she explained to me afterwards, it's channelling energy into the body to make you heal yourself. i am down with that. we've all got the ability to fix what ails us mentally, which then manifests physically, so ju ju or not, it may have something to it.
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Postby kurogane » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:11 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:The only thing weird about it is you think that horseshit did something.


Having had at least 3 or 4 ex-GFs and or Bonk Buddies go Full Reiki, and allowing that Reiki is probably the gayest of all those new age Japanese gay girly health things (even all that massage and Esthe crap does something tangible), there is another rather well researched factor you might not have fully considered Dr. McCoy............but the gay girly explained herself better so I'll leave you guessing.

Glad it worked, CUJ, and good on ya for keeping an open mind. It's really only a loss when it doesn't. Well, except for anything to do with Soka Gakkai. That shit's just too goofy.












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Postby Cyka UchuuJin » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:29 am

kurogane wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:The only thing weird about it is you think that horseshit did something.


Having had at least 3 or 4 ex-GFs and or Bonk Buddies go Full Reiki, and allowing that Reiki is probably the gayest of all those new age Japanese gay girly health things (even all that massage and Esthe crap does something tangible), there is another rather well researched factor you might not have fully considered Dr. McCoy............but the gay girly explained herself better so I'll leave you guessing.

Glad it worked, CUJ, and good on ya for keeping an open mind. It's really only a loss when it doesn't. Well, except for anything to do with Soka Gakkai. That shit's just too goofy.












Aw, hell, Happy April Fool's:
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I'm also inclined to rule it as placebo, but if it is, then there's some kind of weird reverse psychology placebo happening, because i thought it was ju ju but decided to go just to prove my friend who recommended i do it was totally wrong. i STILL think it's kinda horse shit, but am also feeling differently today and am trying to convince myself that it has nothing to do with the ju ju.
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:30 am

kurogane wrote:Happy April Fool's


D'oh!!
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Postby Coligny » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:47 am

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But if you acknowledge negative somatization.

You also have to consider the possibility of a positive somatization.
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Re: WTF is Reiki?

Postby kurogane » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:03 am

CUJ,

All well and good, but if works like you said then don't overthink it. Just ride that motha to the beach before the wave breaks. Placebos is weird, man, but weird can be cool. :spin:
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