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rape accusation - lawyer?

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Postby veracotti » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:36 pm

Steve Bildermann wrote:I disagree but without getting into a more confusing discussion I have suggested a visit to the 'Horitsu Sodan' session held at most Shiyakusho will get up to date and accurate information.


My previous post is the current law and is very clear. There is nothing to more confuse the issue.
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Postby Steve Bildermann » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:03 am

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Postby Instant Ramen » Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:44 pm

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Prevention...

Postby Akisa » Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:24 pm

How does a Gaijin prevent this from happening? Besides abstaining completely. It seems you are at the mercy of the woman.
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Re: Prevention...

Postby Big Booger » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:04 am

Akisa wrote:How does a Gaijin prevent this from happening? Besides abstaining completely. It seems you are at the mercy of the woman.


Like Ice Cube says:

"Got the little hooker on tape" --Givin' Up The Nappy Dug Out -- Ice Cube.

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Postby AssKissinger » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:27 am

Well, if your friend decides to stay a Japan he should at least really rape someone so he won't be convicted for nothing.
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Postby bejiita » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:15 am

AssKissinger wrote:Well, if your friend decides to stay a Japan he should at least really rape someone so he won't be convicted for nothing.


That's a very good defense. Yes, your honor, she's lying. I didn't rape her on so-and-so date. I raped her just a coupla days ago. :twisted:
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Postby bejiita » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:51 am

veracotti wrote:My previous post is the current law and is very clear. There is nothing to more confuse the issue.


Yes, clear on paper, but not in actual practice. Sometimes a dramatic difference exists between the two.

If the police do violate the law and your rights (by detaining you beyond the statutory requirement or maybe by beating you up a little and then explaining that you tripped and hit your head on the floor), who do you complain to? The police who violated your rights in the first place? Or maybe the prosecutor who has to rely on the police to get her/his job done, and who will automatically :roll: believe a FG's statement over those of the police?
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Re: Prevention...

Postby Kaibutsu » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:14 am

Big Booger wrote:
Akisa wrote:How does a Gaijin prevent this from happening? Besides abstaining completely. It seems you are at the mercy of the woman.


Like Ice Cube says:

"Got the little hooker on tape" --Givin' Up The Nappy Dug Out -- Ice Cube.

Jeee yeaaaa..


After reading all this, I'm a little bit paranoid. Can and do the cops arrest gaijin on the street at random and make up some bullshit story just so they can they can throw them in jail?
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Postby AssKissinger » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:33 am

After reading all this, I'm a little bit paranoid. Can and do the cops arrest gaijin on the street at random and make up some bullshit story just so they can they can throw them in jail?


No
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Paranoid

Postby Akisa » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:05 am

I am a bit paranoid now too. I think about my trip to Japan and I am glad I did not knock that salaryman down the stairs when I accidently went the wrong way.
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how long is the arm of the japanese law?

Postby bxun999 » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:58 pm

Can a trial proceed without a defendant ("in absentia")?
Can a defendant then be found guilty?
Since the US and Japan have an extradition treaty and rape is an extraditable offence...

How far would a prosecutor push it without a defendant in the box?
I wonder if it being a greyzone "he said, she said" case has any relevance? If it is indicted it then becomes black and white as judgement will be guilty 98% of the time.

Having a defendant disappear would make the prosecution's case look stronger. Seems under japanese law the prosecutor gets to decide what is and is not admissible evidence, so anything like even a written statement from the defendant could be disallowed in court. Tho it might be considered by the prosecutor.
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Postby kamome » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:24 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
After reading all this, I'm a little bit paranoid. Can and do the cops arrest gaijin on the street at random and make up some bullshit story just so they can they can throw them in jail?


No


Sadly, the answer appears to be yes.

The link describes an Iranian dude who was accosted by the police in Setagaya-ku, beaten to a pulp, and dragged off to jail just for being a "suspicious" looking Iranian. Yes, the police did make up a BULLSHIT story.
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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:38 pm

kamome wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:
After reading all this, I'm a little bit paranoid. Can and do the cops arrest gaijin on the street at random and make up some bullshit story just so they can they can throw them in jail?


No


Sadly, the answer appears to be yes.

The link describes an Iranian dude who was accosted by the police in Setagaya-ku, beaten to a pulp, and dragged off to jail just for being a "suspicious" looking Iranian. Yes, the police did make up a BULLSHIT story.


I support the J-Fuzz on that one.
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Postby Instant Ramen » Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:42 pm

kamome wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:
After reading all this, I'm a little bit paranoid. Can and do the cops arrest gaijin on the street at random and make up some bullshit story just so they can they can throw them in jail?


No


Sadly, the answer appears to be yes.

The link describes an Iranian dude who was accosted by the police in Setagaya-ku, beaten to a pulp, and dragged off to jail just for being a "suspicious" looking Iranian. Yes, the police did make up a BULLSHIT story.


That picture of the dude brings back raw memories for me. I had to instruct my lawyer in the same way when I was attacked by a drunken low-life fuck, then charged as being equally culpable just for fending him off. The ugly kunt was lucky that I didn't actually go hard on him. Though, had I done that I would have been even more fucked than I was having done nothing other than defend myself.

I can still remember one of the foreigners who witnessed the whole thing saying to me after things had settled down 'Just get out of here'. Instead of running, I thought I haven't done anything wrong so I'll hang around and wait for things to get sorted out legitimately. How stupid I was to think that I actually had rights, or that there would be due process.

I can't imagine what kind of shithouse treatment non-Caucasians must get from the Japanese cops.

Whoever started this string, again, tell your mate to bail out while the bailing out is good. Unless he has strong Japanese roots in his local community and Japanese friends who can speak on his behalf, I'd still say that he's on his way to becoming a bonafide Fucked Gaijin.
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Postby kamome » Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:45 pm

AssKissinger wrote:
kamome wrote:
AssKissinger wrote:
After reading all this, I'm a little bit paranoid. Can and do the cops arrest gaijin on the street at random and make up some bullshit story just so they can they can throw them in jail?


No


Sadly, the answer appears to be yes.

The link describes an Iranian dude who was accosted by the police in Setagaya-ku, beaten to a pulp, and dragged off to jail just for being a "suspicious" looking Iranian. Yes, the police did make up a BULLSHIT story.


I support the J-Fuzz on that one.


Why? Just because he's Iranian? A colleague of mine actually went to the trial and saw first hand that the police were completely making up a BULLSHIT pretense for attacking this guy.

We all should tiptoe around the police in this country, because you never know what kind of shenanigans they're going to pull if they feel like it.
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Postby Big Booger » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:13 pm

So if you get in a fight in Japan, book it for the nearest plane ticket out of nippon.
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Postby Kaibutsu » Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:22 pm

We all should tiptoe around the police in this country, because you never know what kind of shenanigans they're going to pull if they feel like it.[/quote]

I think I'm worrying a little too much. Yea, I could get framed by the cops for something while visiting Japan, but the chances are more likely that I won't be bothered at all. I'm just going to take the legal advice offered here to heart, and watch my step when I come to visit. No one on earth is even guaranteed they'll live to see tommorow.,so I'm just gonna take it one day at a time.

One last question though: I'm a United States citizen.From what I've read, if I come here just as a tourist, I only need a passport to enter the country. Is this correct?(I don't want to find out I'm wrong at immigration and get banned possibly forever.)
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:24 pm

One last question though: I'm a United States citizen.From what I've read, if I come here just as a tourist, I only need a passport to enter the country. Is this correct?(I don't want to find out I'm wrong at immigration and get banned possibly forever.)


You get 90 days with no visa. Longer if you get thrown in the pen. Never once had a problem myself. I have an overall good opinion of the police here. And I certainly don't have anything against the police doing what needs to be done to prevent an al-Qaida attack against Japan. I think around Ueno park is a good place to start.
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