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james wrote:for the most part means being bi-cultural. speaking another language, particularly when fluent, is not just saying the equivalent words. all of the mannerisms, including body language and other subtle nuances are also included, at least when dealing with accomplished speakers. you're not just switching languages, but cultural modes.
language and culture are a package deal. languages evolve to suit the needs of their speakers and change to refelct the changes in the culture.
Korrito wrote:Royale wit cheese, quarter pound of shit on a bun, motherfucker.
Do you speak in fractions of shit, motherfucker?
Jack wrote:Another reason is to make yourself understood without the hassle of having to explain every word. Just speak slowly using simple vocabulary and that will get you to the love hotel quicker. Why bother giving English lessons when the objective to commingle?
canman wrote:Damned if you do and damned if you don't. So Takeidiot, you seem to want foreigners to use Japanese when we are in Japan, because that is the thing to do. But when we speak it well and begin to use some of the same Japanese mannerisms, we seem like we are silly and copying people. What is it man, what the hell do you want from people. I can't understand you at all, if you are a troll then have at it, but get the hell out of my face about this foreigners are crap etc. thing you've got going.
gboothe wrote:Don't worry about him Can, he should be quiet for a bit. The thread on circumcision would have just scared the living shit out of him.
GomiGirl wrote:Isn't this due to non-verbal communication that is cultural. If you adopt mannerisms when communicating in another language, isn't that just adding to the level of communication.... people read these signs as much as they listen to the words. Like crossing your hands in a "no" gesture, and excusing yourself with the open hand gesture and bowing as a curtesy. It helps to stop your message getting lost.
I know the poo-head was just trolling but I thought I would jump in with a serious reply.
maraboutslim wrote:But Kume's point was a bit more humorous and a bit more nuanced than can be understood by folks like Debito.
canman wrote:Damned if you do and damned if you don't. So Takeidiot, you seem to want foreigners to use Japanese when we are in Japan, because that is the thing to do. But when we speak it well and begin to use some of the same Japanese mannerisms, we seem like we are silly and copying people. What is it man, what the hell do you want from people. I can't understand you at all, if you are a troll then have at it, but get the hell out of my face about this foreigners are crap etc. thing you've got going.
Takechanpoo wrote:Hey Can,
I call gaijin "good" gaijin who honestly accept what he can't accept easily.
If you are not a "loser" gaijin you must not become emotional against my Chrysanthemum words.
kamome wrote:This makes no sense at all. Take, if you really are Japanese, just post in Japanese so we can understand what the fuck you're talking about. Your English sucks.
6810 wrote:I have to admit, that Take's "blenderised" English is not always exactly as clear as it could be... perhaps you should post in Japanese Take-kun
Takechanpoo wrote:Hey Can,
I call gaijin "good" gaijin who honestly accept what he can't accept easily.
If you are not a "loser" gaijin you must not become emotional against my Chrysanthemum words.
kamome wrote:This makes no sense at all. Take, if you really are Japanese, just post in Japanese so we can understand what the fuck you're talking about. Your English sucks.
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