A stinky attempt to kill oneself

[Sarutaro]

[Charles]

That was the most despicable, self-involved post I have ever seen on the internet. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[amdg]

Seconded.

[james]

[Sarutaro]

Wait a second. I understand what you all are saying, and I agree. But to kill oneself is one thing, but to take the whole building with you is selfish. My 4-month old boy and 1-year old daughter had to go by ambulance to the hospital. I have been very worried that thy might have been hurt somehow. Unless you're a parent I don't think you can understand.

[amdg]

OK, I didn't see from your original post that what he did put you all at risk of being killed. Is that the case?

If so, I would probably be angry too. Not sure I would make a claim to his family for lost wages though - it seems a little insensitive right now.

[james]

Wait a second. I understand what you all are saying, and I agree. But to kill oneself is one thing, but to take the whole building with you is selfish. My 4-month old boy and 1-year old daughter had to go by ambulance to the hospital. I have been very worried that thy might have been hurt somehow. Unless you're a parent I don't think you can understand.

most of us here are parents, myself included, and do understand quite well. in your situation, i don't doubt that i'd be equally as upset but i think i'd also, more than anything, be relieved that things turned out ok.

i don't think anyone can deny that what the guy did is pretty fucked up and selfish, but i think to get all litigous after the fact when, luckily, no harm was done doesn't really accomplish anything. shit happens and sometimes you just have to deal with it. it will also likely come across as being rather callous and selfish if you start chasing after people for money while they are dealing with bigger problems and word of that would get around very quickly.

[Takechanpoo]

Why are you dudes blaming Sarutaro dude so much? I cannot understand.
Sarugaijin just said "Kill yourself not to impose trouble to anyone and if you imposed trouble, you should had done apology and compensation!!!".
This is common sense.

[Catoneinutica]

Given that the guy's apparently suffered brain damage, I think I'd let this one drop. I'd imagine his parents are a little bit distracted at the moment.

[Sarutaro]

Apparently he got out of the hospital after only two days so I don't know how serious it was.

[ttjereth]

Why are you dudes blaming Sarutaro dude so much? I cannot understand.
Sarugaijin just said "Kill yourself not to impose trouble to anyone and if you imposed trouble, you should had done apology and compensation!!!".
This is common sense.

Oh god... I agree with Takechanpoo... I need a shower...

[dimwit]

You can and should get compensation under the circumstances. It is important to let the family of 'brain improvement case' know what you have been through via the landlord as soon as possible. In almost all cases like this, they will almost certainly pay.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm going to go with Charles. Why should the family be financially responsible for the actions of an adult child?

[mortheroth]

We need to be compensated, by either the guy or his parents for this

Lol! You talk like a japanese!:p

[dimwit]

The concept of being compensated as the victim of a crime (and yes being poisoned by some wannabe retard is a crime) is universal. Unlike other countries Japanese don't generally bother to take it to court. The biggest difference is that in the states in all probablity the victims would sue the gas company for not placing warning label on the their products resulting in everyone having to paying higher price for fucktards actions.

[succubusqueen]

Why are you dudes blaming Sarutaro dude so much? I cannot understand.
Sarugaijin just said "Kill yourself not to impose trouble to anyone and if you imposed trouble, you should had done apology and compensation!!!".
This is common sense.

Shockingly...Im on Take's side on this one....what happened to killing yourself quietly and discretely.

[omae mona]

Yep, like Dimwit said, in the U.S. they'd likely look to the deepest pockets to find their compensation, and they would sue. Either the landlord (for not screening tenants and their boyfriends properly), the architect (for creating a gas-permeable building), the chemical manufacturers (for selling whatever materials were used), or the girlfriend (for creating whatever stress caused the guy to go nuts on her).

[Iraira]

If I have a job interview, and some despondant numbnuts decided that he/she should end it all by jumping in front of a train, I might miss my interview, which could cause me not to get the job. So, should numbnut's family be responsible for all my future wages that would have been earned, had numbnuts not made me late for my interview? Assuming that I earned a better wage, I could also afford more lottery tickets, thereby assuring myself of a better chance at winning millions.....I wanna sue Bill Gates and Warren Buffet for something before they give away THE MONEY THEY OWE ME to poor people......

Vow #1. Let's not sue people for everything.
Vow #2. Kill yourself on your own time and at the inconvenience of as few others as possible.

[ttjereth]

If I have a job interview, and some despondant numbnuts decided that he/she should end it all by jumping in front of a train, I might miss my interview, which could cause me not to get the job. So, should numbnut's family be responsible for all my future wages that would have been earned, had numbnuts not made me late for my interview? Assuming that I earned a better wage, I could also afford more lottery tickets, thereby assuring myself of a better chance at winning millions.....I wanna sue Bill Gates and Warren Buffet for something before they give away THE MONEY THEY OWE ME to poor people......

Vow #1. Let's not sue people for everything.
Vow #2. Kill yourself on your own time and at the inconvenience of as few others as possible.

I don't think he is saying he wants millions from them, I think he is saying he wants them to make up for the missed days of work and the hospital bills. I don't think his parents should pay it, but the numbnuts who tried to off himself definitely should.

For that matter, considering the manner in which he tried to off himself (poisoning the entire building) shouldn't he be in Jail somewhere?

[American Oyaji]

TIJ,

Getting money from the inconveniencer is common sense from a Japanese way of thinking. Gotta go with Takepoo on this one.

[Iraira]

I don't think he is saying he wants millions from them, I think he is saying he wants them to make up for the missed days of work and the hospital bills. I don't think his parents should pay it, but the numbnuts who tried to off himself definitely should.

For that matter, considering the manner in which he tried to off himself (poisoning the entire building) shouldn't he be in Jail somewhere?

Everyone in the building should be allowed to kick numbnut's ass for a predetermined period of time. I just want everyone to be happy.....is that too much to ask on a Monday morning?

[kamome]

Sarutaro deserves to be compensated for medical bills, lost wages and any pain and suffering caused by the tenant's actions. By releasing poisonous gas into the apartment building, the tenant caused damage and put Sarutaro's family at risk. I don't think he's being selfish at all by asking for compensation.

Sarutaro, you need to consult a Japanese lawyer to see what your rights are under Japanese law.

[ttjereth]

Everyone in the building should be allowed to kick numbnut's ass for a predetermined period of time. I just want everyone to be happy.....is that too much to ask on a Monday morning?

Especially on a Monday morning.

Especially coming from the guy with the handle "iraira"

[Mr Doricar]

Agree with Take too!

I think it's not what we're used to in the "west" but my brain in J-mode says that you should be compensated. But not in the bullish American sue every fucker that walks style. That's unnessesary. Once you make it clear to the parents what you went through, and that it is your actions that saved their son's death I would assume they would be endebted to you and sort out the cash adjustment for wages, hospital fee's etc. But don't be over the top and take the piss, just get what your'e entitled to.

How much are we talking here? under 100,000 Yen ?

[ttjereth]

Agree with Take too!

I think it's not what we're used to in the "west" but my brain in J-mode says that you should be compensated. But not in the bullish American sue every fucker that walks style. That's unnessesary. Once you make it clear to the parents what you went through, and that it is your actions that saved their son's death I would assume they would be endebted to you and sort out the cash adjustment for wages, hospital fee's etc. But don't be over the top and take the piss, just get what your'e entitled to.

How much are we talking here? under 100,000 Yen ?

"saved their son's death"

[Mr Doricar]

Life...Death...It's all the same to me!

N.B. Especially when someone's baka enough to try and top themselves over a broad! Everyone knows woman is the devil right? He should have just shagged her Mum/Best friend instead

[Charles]

Life...Death...It's all the same to me!

N.B. Especially when someone's baka enough to try and top themselves over a broad!

How do you know that was the reason? Maybe he couldn't stand living next to Sarutaro.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Automatically expecting compensation from the guys family is bullshit. For all Sarutaro knows the guy has little or no relationship with them. Even if they are super tight and he still lives at home, they shouldn't bear any responsibility for their adult son's actions. I don't give a fuck what the Japanese way is.

Also think about the timing. Sarutaro seems to have expected the family to contact him first thing. They probably don't even know what exactly happened yet or who might have been affected. That is just being a selfish prick.

[caloriemate]

I don't know why everyone is against the original poster.
I don't know why it wouldn't be "nice" to claim against someone who has severely endangered the life of other people.
That this guy was trying to kill himself should not be of any consideration.
Moreover it should be charged against him. As far as I know trying to kill someone(oneself included) is called a murder and is illegal in most societies (whether I agree with that is another problem).

Not claiming in such cases would mean that it is a "okay" thing which is absolutely not. And I don't understand why terrorists doing the same thing are hated while a "poor" guy trying to kill himself without considering the life of the people around him should be forgiven. It is amazing. This guy is dangerous! Do you get that?!

[climb678]

Automatically expecting compensation from the guys family is bullshit. For all Sarutaro knows the guy has little or no relationship with them. Even if they are super tight and he still lives at home, they shouldn't bear any responsibility for their adult son's actions. I don't give a fuck what the Japanese way is.

Also think about the timing. Sarutaro seems to have expected the family to contact him first thing. They probably don't even know what exactly happened yet or who might have been affected. That is just being a selfish prick.

I have to agree with Samurai_Jerk, The family bears no responsibility and the timing is off. Give them a chance to deal with their trauma.