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Good Koreans, Good Americans, Good Japanese

Postby Mulboyne » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:55 pm

[I]"This is the first in a new Korea Times series called 'Understanding Korea, Koreans,' by Jon Huer. The writer is a professor at the University of Maryland College Asia. "[/I]

Korea Times: Good Koreans, Good Americans, Good Japanese
...Good Koreans are good in the way Americans or Japanese are good; they're helpful on the road, honest and sweet to strangers. But they are "good" in different ways as well, from a sociological perspective. Good Koreans are good as individuals. They are helpful, honest and sweet with you, mainly because they are good in their individual consciences. As individuals, they have a strong sense of what is right and wrong, moral and immoral, virtuous and sinful. If you search for the structural origins of their goodness in something larger _ such as history or a social system, you'll be disappointed, because there is little evidence of goodness in Korea's history or social system. Colonialism and war completely destroyed any public or institutional basis of morality in Korea. Being helpful, honest or sweet does not help one's career in Korea, yet each good Korean is good in spite of such obstacles. In his or her individual heart of hearts, the good Korean has searched for answers to good and evil and has come to a certain conclusion, individually, personally and alone. This origin of goodness in Korea is all the more memorable in that it is truly a triumph of the individual.

In the United States, the goodness we find as travelers, neighbors and strangers is just as helpful, honest and sweet. But the sociological origin of this goodness among the good Americans is in their social institutions and public instructions. Perhaps because the United States is a harsh, take-no-prisoners, competitive society, there tends to be a constant institutional emphasis (namely at schools and public announcements) on being good "human beings." Even the worst Wall Street types boast of their humane contributions and helping hands. As an American, one is taught to have compassion toward the "less fortunate," and most Americans tend to root for the underdogs, Davids against Goliaths. If you meet a "good" American on the road, it's likely that he was taught to be a good human being by some public message. In spite of the fact that Americans are considered individualists, free and independent, it is quite surprising how much of the American social character, whether in a group or alone, is actually a publicly-processed product.

The good Japanese are different from both of the above. There is no "public" in the American sense of established institutions and organizations, nor is there an "individual" conscience or soul in the sense that good Koreans have in abundance. The good Japanese are what the Japanese "nation" makes them. If the Japanese nation is good in its national goal and beliefs, the Japanese people are also good; if the Japanese nation is nasty, individual Japanese are equally nasty as individuals. Very rarely, unlike in Korea, does a Japanese citizen deviate from his collective-national creed and expectations. Thus, the goodness of the Japanese is wholly tied to what his or her nation stands for or teaches. During the evil time of World War II, virtually all Japanese citizens showed pitiless evil. Today, most Japanese citizens are helpful, honest and sweet to strangers because the nation is no longer bent on conquest.

If the above descriptions are true, the most true and predictable is that Japanese are good because of their national character formation. The nation of Japan controls every heart and soul in Japan at all times at the conscious, unconscious and subconscious levels. It is often shocking how little remorse ex-Japanese soldiers feel about their atrocities in the last world war. In their view, their nation commanded the people to "be" that way, and that's how they were. Because of this controlling mechanism, most Japanese are predictably reliable most of the time. The least reliable or predictable group would naturally be Koreans...more...
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Postby TennoChinko » Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:01 pm

Ugh. The author's line of reasoning is so awkward, it's painful to even read.





How about if we credit so-called helpfulness of Americans to Christian values (versus the heathen Orientals)?
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:17 pm

Korean discussion always is grounded on delusions, as you know. They never can objectively observe things and stuffs. This article is one of the proofs. And only in this regard this article has meaning.
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Postby Number11 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:54 pm

Well, isn't that, uh, interesting. And a professor, too. Oh my.
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Postby Iraira » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:38 pm

The University of Maryland College Asia offers a Masters of Distance Education

from their website:
Dr. Huer holds a B.A. in sociology from California State University at Los Angeles, and an M.A. and Ph.D., also in sociology, from the University of California at Los Angeles. He has taught at Indiana-Purdue University at Indianapolis, the University of Alabama, the University of Wisconsin, and the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. Dr. Huer's many books and other publications cover a wide range of topics in American culture and institutions, as well as topics such as Third World development. He has taught primarily in Korea, and also in Misawa and the distance education program, since joining the UMUC faculty in 1994. Dr. Huer also served as UMUC Asia Academic Coordinator for Sociology, Anthropology, and Criminology.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:32 am

As least as the US is concerned, I wouldn't say that there is much institution emphasis on being 'good' but rather constantly reminding people that being 'bad' can result in jail time or civil lawsuits. This is a place, after all, where you can be sued for helping accident victims.

While there is a significant religious presence in the US that would push thinking of 'what would jesus do?' in any given situation, it is not like that kind of thinking would be tolerated in public schools or to a lesser degree, city hall.

And I doubt most US folks, if asked, would desire neighbors who were "helpful, honest and sweet" and would vastly prefer neighbors who were 'quiet, keep their yard not messy and who mind their own business'.
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Postby rooboy » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:18 pm

This Jon Huer probably needs heavy doses of medication for his delusion.

Just ask old people who had relatives etc that were in WW2 and were prisoners of the Japanese or who had first hand accounts of what they'd done to civilians who were the worst scumbags.

The Jp Imperial Army had Koreans drafted to fight for the empeoror. From most accounts by allied soldiers the Koreans were absolute vicious, sadistic cunts and they earned tht reputation as well in the Vietnam War fighting on the American etc side.

And since when do Koreans have the rep. this Huer says for being 'sweet', 'kind' or whatever? Never taught in Korea but it has a well deserved reputation for being a sinkhole of cunts - cheats in business, couldnt give a fuck about others with their pushing, fighting, spitting peasant ways in public. So many foreigners flee Korea - wow what a coincidence.

Probably Jon Huer has Korean blood - sounds too delusional to be anything else but another racist Korean who hates not just what Jp colonisers did but hates Japan and Japanese people old and young out of fucking jealousy because his own backward country isnt interesting to most people.
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