Relocating a house

[Taka-Okami]

Anyone ever heard of anyone relocating one of those old Japanese farm houses overseas?

[Coligny]

Anyone ever heard of anyone relocating one of those old Japanese farm houses overseas?

Those made of mud and rotten wood ? I think the CDC might object to this...

[AML]

You mean brick by bri... i mean, wood pane by wood pane?

Why not just find blue prints and build a new one back home?

Unless it has some sort of historical or sentimental value.

Ive seen European buildings being brought to Japan.

The chapel where my wife and i got married was brought over from the UK. (only real thing about our wedding... )

[Catoneinutica]

Yeah, I've heard of people relocating to the US the big beams and as much of the supporting structure as they can salvage. Suppose the info's out there on the net.

[wuchan]

would be cheaper to just build a replica. If you want to get into the hand carved joints it would still be cheaper to fly over a japanese craftsman to do it.

[FG Lurker]

The chapel where my wife and i got married was brought over from the UK. (only real thing about our wedding... )

There used to be one of those in Umeda but that wedding place got torn down a while ago. Is that where you got hitched?

[FG Lurker]

Anyone ever heard of anyone relocating one of those old Japanese farm houses overseas?

So you miss the drafts and complete lack of insulation?

[Taka-Okami]

Yeah, I've heard of people relocating to the US the big beams and as much of the supporting structure as they can salvage. Suppose the info's out there on the net.

That sounds like somthing I'd like to do. You can't buy huge Hinoki beams over here.

[BigInJapan]

Awhile back I read about an old Japanese house (maybe Meiji era) from the Kiso area of Nagano that had been sent over to Europe (France?) and rebuilt. Did a quick search, but no luck.

[AML]

There used to be one of those in Umeda but that wedding place got torn down a while ago. Is that where you got hitched?

Dont think so. We got married in Hachioji. Near a river. Nice place.

http://www.hotel-newgrand.com/wedding/index.html

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Dont think so. We got married in Hachioji. Near a river. Nice place.

http://www.hotel-newgrand.com/wedding/index.html

And a grimy police box and used-car yard in front of it, if I'm not mistaken...

[AML]

Ha lol, maybe yeah. Dont remember.

The chapel was nice at least...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Ha lol, maybe yeah. Dont remember.

The chapel was nice at least...

You're lucky...wher I come from, Chappells are loud-mouthed bastards with a predilection for dropping their pants or having a problem with their underarms...

[Mulboyne]

Anyone ever heard of anyone relocating one of those old Japanese farm houses overseas?

One article here

[GomiGirl]

You're lucky...wher I come from, Chappells are loud-mouthed bastards with a predilection for dropping their pants or having a problem with their underarms...

OMG am I showing my age by understanding this underarm reference?

But after today's performance, I think the Aussies would be wishing for a return of the Chappells - any of them.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

OMG am I showing my age by understanding this underarm reference?

But after today's performance, I think the Aussies would be wishing for a return of the Chappells - any of them.

Nah, you're still young....I remember Vic Richardson, their grandpa!

The decline has been fast and furious...and, just to rub it in, Melbourne looks like it will stay sunny enough for long enough to get a result. Still, the Poms are clearly the much better team and good luck to them. They cheerily put up with this stuff for decades, so giving us some humble pie for Christmas is not too bad.

[Taka-Okami]

Nah, you're still young....I remember Vic Richardson, their grandpa!

The decline has been fast and furious...and, just to rub it in, Melbourne looks like it will stay sunny enough for long enough to get a result. Still, the Poms are clearly the much better team and good luck to them. They cheerily put up with this stuff for decades, so giving us some humble pie for Christmas is not too bad.

Hopefully the sudden decline in Australian cricket will be emulated in the decline of the disgustingly over priced house prices down here.

On a another note, I am starting to dected a lot of fear out there, people are starting to cut back and are worried about keeping their jobs. 2011 will not be a good year for Aus, or the world.

In the next few years we will see disease, crop failures, famine on a massive scale.

[GomiGirl]

Hopefully the sudden decline in Australian cricket will be emulated in the decline of the disgustingly over priced house prices down here.

On a another note, I am starting to dected a lot of fear out there, people are starting to cut back and are worried about keeping their jobs. 2011 will not be a good year for Aus, or the world.

In the next few years we will see disease, crop failures, famine on a massive scale.

First the Aus cricket goes down the gurgler - next thing will be Armageddon..

Oh dear we are really living on the razors edge.

REPENT ALL SINNERS.

[Taka-Okami]

First the Aus cricket goes down the gurgler - next thing will be Armageddon..

Oh dear we are really living on the razors edge.

REPENT ALL SINNERS.

Ha ha, nooo.

It's all due a number of factors that affect feeding twice the current population in 40 years. Think in terms of peak oil, climate change, GMO (Franken foods - and crop failures and disease).

That scum bag company Monsanto is already affecting the viability of Aus's status as providing high quality food. Recently Japan and Europe have threatened to ban all Canola coming from here, as recently most states opened the door to GM canola. Monsanto, if you'll research, really are trying to control world wide supplies of staple food via genetic engineering (check terminator seeds)

Sorry, I don't see much hope for humanity.

[FG Lurker]

Sorry, I don't see much hope for humanity.

Which is why I don't listen to anything you say. While there will no doubt be ups and downs (as there always are) in the end we'll be fine.

[Taro Toporific]

...the next few years we will see disease, crop failures, famine on a massive scale.

I really hate to say it, but buying a Japanese minka/farmhouse and NOT moving it would be the best plan if "disease, crop failures, famine" worries you.

In terms of the best-bang-for-the-buck, Japan's insanely fertile soil, generous rainfall and wildly low prices for farms make it it an ideal place to own a farm if you have a secondary source of real income (or retirement savings). There are plenty 1 million farms available in Japan boonies---10 million can buy a farkquing palace.

I have an artist friend and family living at a world heritage site in Toyama who bought and restored a huge thatched minka for less than 6 million yen. The place is worth sixty trillion yen of happiness when you see his robust boys and rosy-cheeked young wife (rather than the typical pale, pathetic, neurotically-weaselly looking school-kids and cranky housewives of Kanto).

Refer to:
"Zenkoku Jubun MINKA no Tudoi"---Japan Historic House Owners' Society
http://www.jminka.gr.jp/about_e.html
http://www.jminka.gr.jp/

[Taka-Okami]

I really hate to say it, but buying a Japanese minka/farmhouse and NOT moving it would be the best plan if "disease, crop failures, famine" worries you.

In terms of the best-bang-for-the-buck, Japan's insanely fertile soil, generous rainfall and wildly low prices for farms make it it an ideal place to own a farm if you have a secondary source of real income (or retirement savings). There are plenty 1 million farms available in Japan boonies---10 million can buy a farkquing palace.

I have an artist friend and family living at a world heritage site in Toyama who bought and restored a huge thatched minka for less than 6 million yen. The place is worth sixty trillion yen of happiness when you see his robust boys and rosy-cheeked young wife (rather than the typical pale, pathetic, neurotically-weaselly looking school-kids and cranky housewives of Kanto).

Refer to:
"Zenkoku Jubun MINKA no Tudoi"---Japan Historic House Owners' Society
http://www.jminka.gr.jp/about_e.html
http://www.jminka.gr.jp/

Haha Japan? They can't even feed themselves. From memory I think they can only provide 50% of daily calorific needs the rest is imported.

On the other hand, if I were to live there I wouldnt buy anywhere expect for around Kumamoto, everything else is pretty much down wind of a Nuclear power plant. (Although there a few Chinese ones about 1000km down wind from Kumamoto - but I think thats far enough).

[Yokohammer]

Haha Japan? They can't even feed themselves. From memory I think they can only provide 50% of daily calorific needs the rest is imported.

I think it depends on where you are and what you want to eat.

Where I'm at (lots of agriculture and a fishing port) we have more rice and vegetables than we can handle ... for free. There are about 100 kg of new rice in the house at the moment that were given us by friends and relatives, and more seasonal veggies and fruit come through the door than we can possibly eat ourselves, so we end up giving some of it to other neighbors.

One of the reasons I moved to the "inaka" (other than the fact that I just like the inaka) is that if the shit ever really does hit the fan, at least we'll be able to eat.

I know the official figures say that Japan is only around 40% self sufficient, but it sure doesn't look that way from where I'm sitting.

I have an artist friend and family living at a world heritage site in Toyama who bought and restored a huge thatched minka for less than 6 million yen. The place is worth sixty trillion yen of happiness when you see his robust boys and rosy-cheeked young wife (rather than the typical pale, pathetic, neurotically-weaselly looking school-kids and cranky housewives of Kanto).

This is so, so true!
I can sort of understand why most people end up in Tokyo or other major cities, but they are vast shitholes compared to other places you can live in Japan.

[Taka-Okami]

One of the reasons I moved to the "inaka" (other than the fact that I just like the inaka) is that if the shit ever really does hit the fan, at least we'll be able to eat.

Your issue will be, if the shit does hit the fan, is dealing with millions (thats right) of hungry city folk raiding you and your neigbours vegie patch. And you won't be able to keep them out. (Guns hard to come by in Japan!).

The word is when Argentina went ass up, the ones that suffered most were those in the deep inaka. Basically there were roaming gangs, raping, looting and killing as they pleased, with not many around to hear their screams.

[GomiGirl]

Your issue will be, if the shit does hit the fan, is dealing with millions (thats right) of hungry city folk raiding you and your neigbours vegie patch. And you won't be able to keep them out. (Guns hard to come by in Japan!).

The word is when Argentina went ass up, the ones that suffered most were those in the deep inaka. Basically there were roaming gangs, raping, looting and killing as they pleased, with not many around to hear their screams.

You are a little ray of sunshine aren't you?

You can keep your paranoid delusions henny penny. I will just hope for a better cricket team in Aus and then all will be well with the world.