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Kanchou wrote:Did the cars have number plates and shaken?
My googling has told me that there is apparently a "shijouyou number" temporary dealer plate for test drives.
So I guess you have to just show up at the dealer looking like a million bucks in a decent car and with a fat wallet if you really want them to bend...
Kanchou wrote:There's a car I would like to buy but the dealer just told me "we don't do test drives." ...
omae mona wrote:Don't remember what was on the plates, but I am pretty sure they had something. My old car looked like crap, though my wallet was very fat (full of old receipts from Yoshinoya).
Kanchou wrote:Do they seriously expect people to buy a car without even knowing whether it will stop when you step on the brakes? In the states, not letting people drive the car is a seriously red flag to a shady dealer.
Kanchou wrote:If mechanics can't be trusted to verify that a car is safe, what good is shaken to begin with?
Kanchou wrote:They did that in the US too. It's called a cut and shut.
Kanchou wrote:My research has led me to believe that there is no legal way to test drive a car that's shaken has run out. But this makes me wonder how the fuck dealers do any business if 95% of used cars have no shaken.
Kanchou wrote:If mechanics can't be trusted to verify that a car is safe, what good is shaken to begin with?
FG Lurker wrote:Shaken is a money grab, pure and simple. There is no need to "safety test" a modern (undamaged) 3 year old car, or a 5 year old car for that matter. If one was to err on the side of caution the first safety test could be required after 5 years or 100,000km but that would defeat the real purpose of shaken -- to separate the masses from considerable amounts of cash.
cstaylor wrote:Wish TEPCO had put their plants through rigorous periodic safety tests.
Doctor Stop wrote:Just don't fucking buy from those assholes.
cstaylor wrote:Well, if there's a chance for them to sell more repair work after a shaken, I'm sure they'll find something to point out.
FG Lurker wrote:
Being Japan this wouldn't surprise me. It often feels like this is the country of laws with unintended consequences. I have no doubt that dealers ignore the law when it's convenient for them but probably make use of it when they don't wish to offer a test drive for whatever reason.
Shaken is a money grab, pure and simple. There is no need to "safety test" a modern (undamaged) 3 year old car, or a 5 year old car for that matter. If one was to err on the side of caution the first safety test could be required after 5 years or 100,000km but that would defeat the real purpose of shaken -- to separate the masses from considerable amounts of cash.
FG Lurker wrote:Shaken is a money grab, pure and simple. There is no need to "safety test" a modern (undamaged) 3 year old car, or a 5 year old car for that matter. If one was to err on the side of caution the first safety test could be required after 5 years or 100,000km but that would defeat the real purpose of shaken -- to separate the masses from considerable amounts of cash.
FG Lurker wrote:I've heard that (though never used) there are garages that will help you pass shaken without your car actually being able to do it. No idea what they do or how they make this work but they do apparently exist
Kanchou wrote:There are apparently many tricks that tuners use to get through the shaken with cars that won't pass due to modifications. Like putting silencers in the mufflers, adding stuff to the gasoline, using suspensions with adjustable ride height or spacers in the springs.
Kanchou wrote:There are apparently many tricks that tuners use to get through the shaken with cars that won't pass due to modifications. Like putting silencers in the mufflers, adding stuff to the gasoline, using suspensions with adjustable ride height or spacers in the springs.
chokonen888 wrote:THIS
Also, a recent trend in tuning has been legal performance modifications....but the market is shrinking every year
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