Businessman gave me finger on Chuo Line

[ErikIncogneeto]

Hi everyone!

I joined just now because I was peeved and had no one to tell it to.

On Friday I was riding the Chuuou Line from Tokyo Station to Shinjuku. There were no open seats on the train so I stood pleasantly in front of a distinguished looking businessman who was wearing an expensive brown cashmere coat over his black suit and tie and had a scarf on. A Chinese girl was sitting next to him and talking to her girl friend sitting on the other side, and I studied Chinese before so I was eavesdropping a little on them too.

Then I got bored though so I pulled out my rubik’s cube and twirled it silently, closing my eyes during flips I’m used to. When I opened my eyes I noticed the businessman in front of me was staring right at me and smiling weirdly without moving his eyes. I was wondering if he was staring so some kind of twisted mating call or what. I had seen that stare a lot.

So I twirled my cube some more quietly and a few moments later I opened my eyes and noticed the man sitting in front of me was still smiling happily and staring right at me, and I felt a little strange. And then I glanced down and saw his leg in his black suit pants extend towards my small backpack/bookbag which was half open and placed between my slighly opened legs, and with his polished black shoe he gave a gentle, sharp kick and knocked over my bag so the stuff inside spilled out a little on the train floor. I thought it must be a mistake and I looked up and he was staring right at me still in the exact same way, and still had the same mysterious smile but his left arm was extended upwards and his good-dam middle finger was extended up. And he just sat there smiling and staring at me and giving me the finger.

So I gave him a little speech and said “Why are you doing that to me? What it the name of everything holy did I do to you?”

And he was still smiling and staring at me, and got up to leave, so I turned to everyone else on the train, about 40 people within earshot and said

“I’m very sorry everyone, but could you take a brief moment to look at this smartly dressed businessman’s face. I was standing here politely and quietly twirling my rubik’s cube and he kicked over my bag onto the floor and then gave me the finger. I wasn’t doing anything and he stuck up his middle finger at me. Please remember this face. Look carefully. He’s the kind of person who sticks out his middle finger to passengers on the train. Remember this face.” Fortunately the whole train was staring at him since I was pointing at him when giving my speech, and hopefully not videoing me and putting me on Youtube, I hope.

Then he got off and I got off too, since it was Shinjuku, and he walked to the right side to go up the escalator and I said something like

“Why in god’s name did you have to stick your middle finger out at me? Do people in your office treat you like dirt, and you have to take it out on me, a perfect stranger? Is that it? You’re treated like dirt all day?”

And he gestured with his hand for me to come up the escalator together with him. So I said “I have a better idea. Why don't you just die?“ And then I galloped the other direction and ran down the stares checking to see if he was following me.

Some smile and put up their finger to strangers. And others stroll along Akihabara or somewhere and slash people with a large vegetable knife.

Same principle only different degree. Maybe the guy who stuck his middle finger up to me is just a beginner. A slasher novice.

And anyways, if there’s a fight, I read they often put the foreigner in jail first while they’re checking on the facts, and I don’t want that so I walked away. But I was traumatized. When I went to sleep and closed my eyes, I can still see that smile and the middle finger. So I just wanted to share that. And by the way, f… him.

Oh, and also, I’m careful who I tell this too, because some people always try to make things half the victim’s fault.

For example, if I’m sitting on a train and a drunk person stumbles by and throws up on me, there’ a certain type of person who says “Well, it was your fault. You attract barf. It’s a situation you created. Don’t run away from your responsibility and blame your barf magnetism on a poor person who just happened to drink too much.” That’s why I haven’t told anyone. They’d say “It’s your fault. Your rubik’s cube was too loud. You were standing too close to him. You attract middle fingers because you’re a bad person. I just know you are.” Or some other absolutely ridiculous something or other. I was just standing there politely like everyone else silently and inconspicuously twiddling something in my fingers!

Who is that guy? And what should I have done? I’m really p.ssed.

[GomiGirl]

Dude - there are arseholes everywhere in this world and probably a few from where you were born too. Don't take it personally and don't waste any energy on them.

Arseholes are always going to be arseholes so the trick is to identify them and just give them a wide berth and get on with your own life. They are kinda like trolls, if you don't feed them they will move onto greener pastures.

Let it go. Save your energy for the really important stuff in life.

Remember the best revenge is living well.

[ErikIncogneeto]

Hi GomiGirl, Yeah, I should forget about it. If a crow bothers an eagle, the eagle just flies higher where the crow can't reach and doesn't even try to mingle with the troublemaker.

Next time, though, I'll have my iPhone ready and video the man with the finger and put it up on Youtube. And choose a Youtube video title real quick and tell it to him and tell him to search the title on Youtube before getting off the train, so he can stare at himself on his pc at home while I'm soaring at higher altitudes.

[GomiGirl]

Erik, Erik, Erik, my little sparrow.

Just let it go dude. Stop imagining revenge scenarios for this guy ruffling your feathers. This makes you just as bad as him.

Just forget about him and move on.

[ErikIncogneeto]

Okay! I'm soaring, I'm soaring! Look at my wings!
^_^)/ flap flap flap
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+_+) the mother frocker, i'll get him back...
^_^)/ flap flap flap
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(sorry, I backslid for a brief moment.)

[Coligny]

You definately should have farted in his general direction with you most sorry-est face... (got another quite brutal dutch oven battle with the cat this morning... he won again... but against a human adversary... in a subway car... VICTORY WOULD BE MINE !!!!)
Or explosive vomitting... Just think aboot german contribution to the world of pornography... hard not to barf...

[ErikIncogneeto]

That's a good one! Organic subway gas attack.

I could twist my hip towards him and say

"Suck up this sarin and die." Kono sarin wo sutte shine.

But the problem is I'd have to live the rest of my life with spare gas stored somewhere in my bowels so I can be attack ready at all times.

And then when the time comes, I can "let it go" as GomiGirl kindly suggested!

It's all coming together now!

[GomiGirl]

You are 12 aren't you young man?

I am done with you.

Good bye.

[ErikIncogneeto]

；＿；
I love your avatar

[IparryU]

Dude - there are arseholes everywhere in this world and probably a few from where you were born too. Don't take it personally and don't waste any energy on them.

Arseholes are always going to be arseholes so the trick is to identify them and just give them a wide berth and get on with your own life. They are kinda like trolls, if you don't feed them they will move onto greener pastures.

Let it go. Save your energy for the really important stuff in life.

Remember the best revenge is living well.

snot

[Samurai_Jerk]

You should have grabbed his middle finger and snapped it in half.

[Iraira]

Wow. Dude, you did exactly what he wanted you to do. He's at home masturbating right now.

[Russell]

At the point you don't give a shit about this behavior, you can confidently say that you got used to Japan. (or for that matter, to any arbitrary place in the world).

But you are right, next time take a vid or pic, and post it on FG. So that we can have a laugh too.

[ErikIncogneeto]

Wow. Dude, you did exactly what he wanted you to do. He's at home masturbating right now.

hahahaha. omg, you're right. that's what he wanted.

But you are right, next time take a vid or pic, and post it on FG. So that we can have a laugh too.

Yeah, I'll post it here.

Actually I was thinking about Coligny's barfing idea on the train, and I refined it a little.

The next time someone stares or gives me the finger. I'll stealthily slip a Mentos into my mouth, and then take a sip of Calpis soda, and then lean my head back a little and spurt two streams of Calpis out of my nostrils at him. Two nice firm white fluffy cylinders. Like a Calpis dragon.

And then I'll lower my head back down and say Please appreciate the awesomeness of the foreigner. Gaikokujin no kowasa wo shitte kudasai, or something.

But then again, that might be his dream come true and give him wanking food for a whole week. He might start following me around like a newborn chick that has imprinted on the first Calpis spurting nostril dragon it sees.

[waruta]

Hope to see you in the front page of Japan Times one of these days

Dunno if I could have handled the situation as well/badly as you, but I might have just sat down next to him and started cuddling him to piss him off.....

[ErikIncogneeto]

Dunno if I could have handled the situation as well/badly as you, but I might have just sat down next to him and started cuddling him to piss him off.....

Yeah, that's good too. What's that song again?

Lo...ving you... is easy cause you're beautiful... Everything that I do, is always loving you. lalalalala lalalalala lalalalala la la la lalala

and the loving you gets higher and higher and higher until you're chirping loving you like a soprano chipmunk. The guy might like that too.

Or there's a children's song, Omocha no chachacha, Omocha no chachacha, chachachachachachacha cha cha cha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrV2adVQFDQ

And you could change it to Ojisan no bakaka. Ojisan no bakaka. Bakakakakakaka ka ka ka. And just keep on singing it.

[Tsuru]

Kill yourself. It is the only honorable way out.

[sublight]

Emo Philips once said, "I read the other day that 77% of the mentally ill are living in poverty. What fascinates me are the 23% that are apparently doing quite well for themselves."

Japan. Home of the 23%. Relax and enjoy the show.

[Russell]

Actually I was thinking about Coligny's barfing idea on the train, and I refined it a little.

The next time someone stares or gives me the finger. I'll stealthily slip a Mentos into my mouth, and then take a sip of Calpis soda, and then lean my head back a little and spurt two streams of Calpis out of my nostrils at him. Two nice firm white fluffy cylinders. Like a Calpis dragon.

And then I'll lower my head back down and say Please appreciate the awesomeness of the foreigner. Gaikokujin no kowasa wo shitte kudasai, or something.

But then again, that might be his dream come true and give him wanking food for a whole week. He might start following me around like a newborn chick that has imprinted on the first Calpis spurting nostril dragon it sees.

Let me spell it out for you.

When Japanese people encounter a guy like that, they avoid him like the pest. Why? Because, if he is capable of doing this kind of outrageous behavior, he is capable of causing you even more trouble. A yaikoshi person like that is simply not worth their time. He might even be a Yakuza, which means serious trouble. So, they usually just walk away.

Now, why you can't do that is because you perceive being given the finger as a loss of face. But then again, why would you think like that? Sounds like a ridiculous concept, ain't it?

So, now you are in a situation where this experience goes through your head again and again, probably keeping you awake at night. That means that you are more fighting yourself than the guy.

Now, if you really insist on getting back at him, let's do a little psychological analysis. He might have been given the finger by some FG in the past, and has been trying to get back at some FG, which happened to be you. Whatever the case, the guy is likely suffering from a serious inferiority complex. So, next time (which is very unlikely to occur), hit him where it hurts: at his weak spot. Just take a pic of him while sucking in air through your teeth, look at the pic while shaking your head, and start to laugh. THAT will piss him off. And make sure you post your pic and experiences here!

[cstaylor]

Save your energy for the really important stuff in life.

I think that's what he's already doing.

As for "distinguished looking businessman", to the untrained eye many of these salarymen make look distinguished, but it's just a facade. The successful ones wouldn't be caught dead on public transport: they'll be enjoying a taxi or chauffeured company car. On longer hauls, they'll be in the green cars or up in the air, not rubbing shoulders with the unwashed on a local line.

[ErikIncogneeto]

Yeah, he was definitely a member of the 23% and it wasn't the green car. Maybe I'll just say "Excuse me, may I take a video of you?" and see what happens. That would put him on the defensive in any event probably.

[GomiGirl]

Dude - you have way too much time on your hands.

Go have a wank or something FFS and stop ruminating on what you could do next time to be cooler than you were last time.

[ErikIncogneeto]

Actually, I only ruminated for a few moments on the guy in the train. What's taking up more of my mental space is your superwomanesque avator, with which I am rapidly falling in lov...

[Samurai_Jerk]

Actually, I only ruminated for a few moments on the guy in the train. What's taking up more of my mental space is your superwomanesque avator, with which I am rapidly falling in lov...

Superwoman? That's Wonder Woman, mother fucker.

[ErikIncogneeto]

Thanks, instead of thinking about the finger man on the train I shall think about Wonder Woman...^_^)/

+_+) .|. ←　　finger man on train

"_") ←　　　wonder woman.

"_-) wink ♡

"_")

[ErikIncogneeto]

Actually, the finger man probably knew that I, an FG, would be exchanging thoughts happily with Wonder Woman on this site, instead of him, a finger man on the train, which is why he gave me the finger in the first place! He just knew it, and was jealous!

^o^) 　←　　me, sharing my pain

"_") ←　go higher young boy, or if that doesn't work, try wanking ♡　←　wonder woman healing my pain

+_+) .|. ←　finger man riding in circles round and round on the train fingering strangers

[matsuki]

When Japanese people encounter a guy like that, they avoid him like the pest. Why? Because, if he is capable of doing this kind of outrageous behavior, he is capable of causing you even more trouble. A yaikoshi person like that is simply not worth their time. He might even be a Yakuza, which means serious trouble. So, they usually just walk away.

Now, why you can't do that is because you perceive being given the finger as a loss of face. But then again, why would you think like that? Sounds like a ridiculous concept, ain't it?

Totally agree but at the same time....there's a difference between a finger and physical contact. I could care less about getting the finger but getting my bag kicked over with all my shit falling out would definitely upset me. (though my reaction would probably be to pull out my keitai and start filming) I was watching some panel crap J-TV last night with (former?) baseball "pros" and there was this long segment they should have just came out and called "Gaijin wa kowaii!" The kept replaying a clip of this shitty Japanese pitcher nailing batters. Fourth one that comes up and is hit just happens to be FG and he (rightfully so) is pissed about it. The catcher immediately jumped up and grabbed him to stop him from going after the pitcher...FGgrabs him and gives him a pretty nice Judo throw Then the discussion panel jumps in and starts saying "Gaijin are scary! They don't like being touched! Unlike Japanese, they get violent when you touch them. It was just bad pitching!" With another guy commenting on Nigerians in Roppongi yelling at cops "Don't touch me!"

So, now you are in a situation where this experience goes through your head again and again, probably keeping you awake at night. That means that you are more fighting yourself than the guy.

Now, if you really insist on getting back at him, let's do a little psychological analysis. He might have been given the finger by some FG in the past, and has been trying to get back at some FG, which happened to be you. Whatever the case, the guy is likely suffering from a serious inferiority complex. So, next time (which is very unlikely to occur), hit him where it hurts: at his weak spot. Just take a pic of him while sucking in air through your teeth, look at the pic while shaking your head, and start to laugh. THAT will piss him off. And make sure you post your pic and experiences here!

Yep, videoing and teeth sucking would be the best reaction ever. Maybe start interviewing him while recording. Could be youtube worthy.

[Coligny]

Slow news day...

[matsuki]

Found it!

Tell me how being FG has anything to do with going what happens at 3:10 (best to watch the previous 3:09 to get a good perspective)

I would have taken my bat to that pitcher....

[VulpesInculta87]

Hey ErikIncogneeto cowboy the fuck up, in Osaka that just means hello , seriously haven't you ever had a day where you were so pissed you just wanted to take out your anger on anyone that crossed paths with you, he probably lost his job or was passed over for promotion, hey maybe he has a daughter that went gaijin and hasn't come back and projected the guys face onto you, I'm sure my father-in-law has had moments like that. life's too short so just chill out and realize you probably have 25+ more years of life left than he does, cheers!