Disrespect for the Elderly Day

[dimwit]

Yesterday, my family and I had to drive up to the Shikoku Karst from Matsuyama and being Respect For the Elderly Day, all the radio stations seemed obligated to play only music from the Showa Era, specifically stuff from the 1930's. As this has left me suffering has left me with PSDS (Post Showa Distress Syndrome) I think we need a Disrespect of the Elderly Day to counterbalance it. Why?

1 Gate Ball Parks. Why do codgers warrant their own special parks? And yet they are the first to complain when anybody plays soccer in a regular park.

2 Fogies on Bikes. This group is responsible for the vast majority of bicycle fatalies and since their number is increasing, bicycle accidents are on the rise. And who gets blamed, not them. Six months ago, Matsuyama passed an ordinance requiring riders to wear helmets. Have I seen a single duffer wearing a helmet in that time? Nope. It might interfere with their purple hair dye jobs.

3 They Vote LDP

4 They love Shintaro Ishihara because they loved his dead brother.

5 Crappy music

6 Add you reason here______________________________

How this day should be celebrated, I am open to any suggestions.

[Taro Toporific]

Discriminating against people on the basis of age, gender, or race is bad---So why respect people on the basis of age, gender, or race?

[dimwit]

Back to the music. People who are 65 today grew up in the mid to late 1960's, which both in Japan and abroad is the best era of rock and roll music. To be listening to 1930's music you need to be at least in your late 80's (if you were forced fed it as a baby) or your mid to late 90's in which case you are living in a nursing home sticking pablum in your ear.

The majority of people listening to radio are car drivers and the only reason any of them would want to listen to early Showa music would be to keep gramps happy while the family drives him out for that long prepared 'cliff falling accident'.

[chibaka]

6 Add you reason here______________________________

Take away their drivers license when the fuckers turn 70

[IparryU]

Discriminating against people on the basis of age, gender, or race is bad---So why respect people on the basis of age, gender, or race?

:this:

6 Add you reason here______________________________

Take away their drivers license when the fuckers turn 70

Hmm... while I do agree and disagree with that... I think an old goat herder will have some input on that.

[yanpa]

Discriminating against people on the basis of age, gender, or race is bad---So why respect people on the basis of age, gender, or race?

:this:

6 Add you reason here______________________________

Take away their drivers license when the fuckers turn 70

Hmm... while I do agree and disagree with that... I think an old goat herder will have some input on that.

Presumably there'll be an exception for Chibaka once he (?) turns 70

[Yokohammer]

6 Add you reason here______________________________

Take away their drivers license when the fuckers turn 70

That was a dumb-ass comment.


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[chibaka]

6 Add you reason here______________________________

Take away their drivers license when the fuckers turn 70

That was a dumb-ass comment.

Didn't realise this was Japan Today

[Yokohammer]

6 Add you reason here______________________________

Take away their drivers license when the fuckers turn 70

That was a dumb-ass comment.

Didn't realise this was Japan Today

It isn't. Your comment has not been censored, has it. And since this is not Japan Today, I am also allowed to express my opinion free from fear of censorship.

My opinion, once again and updated: that was a dumb-ass comment, now compounded by a second dumb-ass comment.


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[kurogane]

I think an old goat herder will have some input on that.

Yokohammer keeps goats too!?!???

This place is like a repository of rennassiance urban peasantry!!!!!!!!!

Anyhoo, double second on the dumb ass comment, but annual re-testing of geezers would be a really nice idea. Completely impractical, but most welcome. Don't forget YokoH, it's only people that age that think they still drive properly. And the problem in Japan is compounded by the sheer number of fogies that didn't really start driving until they were already 55 or so. They're simply not very good at it even when their faculties are sharp and sound.

[Yokohammer]

I think an old goat herder will have some input on that.

Yokohammer keeps goats too!?!???

This place is like a repository of rennassiance urban peasantry!!!!!!!!!

Anyhoo, double second on the dumb ass comment, but annual re-testing of geezers would be a really nice idea. Completely impractical, but most welcome. Don't forget YokoH, it's only people that age that think they still drive properly. And the problem in Japan is compounded by the sheer number of fogies that didn't really start driving until they were already 55 or so. They're simply not very good at it even when their faculties are sharp and sound.

I guess you guys don't drive in Japan. There is mandatory testing for cognitive degeneration plus extra driving tests and refresher courses once you reach the age of 75. Of course that's at every renewal, and the license period is reduced when you pass the 75 mark too.

Most 70 year old drivers are far more stable and cautious than young hard-ons who still think they're immortal. Up at around 80 and above you start to see a few dropouts though.


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[kurogane]

I suppose with the advances in health care and general longevity, I could go for 75 or 80, as you noted, so fair enough. But allowing that younger males are by far the biggest road hazard on the planet, lots of 70 looking year olds have some pretty freaky FUs when things get a touch hinky. And they are a complete menace in parking lots. I'm speaking with braod brush strokes here, btw. But I happily deride this silly Baby Boomer idiocy that age is just a number; it's also an objective condition.

Anyhoo, interesting info about the Jpn DL regulations, and very reassuring. I know the same efforts in Canada are being met with stiff resistance by all the early morning mall walkers and checked Bermuda Short wearers. It's like Monty Python's Hell's Grannies come to life.

[dimwit]

I didn't include drivers on the list because I don't buy the 70 year olds can't drive schtict. I like to equate older driving to drinking beer. A 60 year old is like a 50 year old driver who has drunken one beer, a 70 year old driver is a 2 beer man, 80y.o. -3 beers etc. Can a person drive a car with two beers? Certainly.

Driving generally don't require much strength (unless your driving a 1975 Chrysler Newport without power steering) whereas cycling does and I think therein lays the problem. I very frequently see old people weaving along the street and I suspect this a lack of strength issue.

[chibaka]

a 70 year old driver is a 2 beer man, 80y.o. -3 beers etc.

Interesting analogy, but have you seen most Japanese after 2 or 3 beers?

[Russell]

What do you guys think about those yellow orange stickers that elderly drivers have to stick to their cars?

My old man got pretty angry when I explained their meaning. I guess it is fortunate he does not live in Japan...

[wagyl]

I don't entirely know their purpose. I mean by that the real purpose, rather than any officially announced purpose. Are they to warn other drivers that the car may act irrationally? Other cars act irrationally too. Are they to encourage us to show understanding and give and take? Does that mean I have licence to be a bastard to cars without? Is it to give police a reason to stop and search, rather than the tired old "I think your brake light is out" lie? Or to provide a catch-all crime that the elderly can commit by not displaying their dead leaf sign? Or is it just a plain old stigma, because they can. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Takechanpoo]

actually 70% of the car incidents of running in reverse in highway is by over 65 yo goats
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/life/news/1409 ... 008-n1.htm

[matsuki]

I don't entirely know their purpose. I mean by that the real purpose, rather than any officially announced purpose. Are they to warn other drivers that the car may act irrationally? Other cars act irrationally too. Are they to encourage us to show understanding and give and take? Does that mean I have licence to be a bastard to cars without? Is it to give police a reason to stop and search, rather than the tired old "I think your brake light is out" lie? Or to provide a catch-all crime that the elderly can commit by not displaying their dead leaf sign? Or is it just a plain old stigma, because they can. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

If it was the U.S., I'd just give them an extra lane or two of space.....but in Japan, I guess instead of road raging on the car that just made a left turn from two lanes over and cut you off, it's easier to spot the sticker/magnet and "shoganai" the stress away "because old."

[chibaka]

actually 70% of the car incidents of running in reverse in highway is by over 65 yo goats
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/life/news/1409 ... 008-n1.htm

No shit.

[chibaka]

A particulary useless obaa chan this very morning, car park at a large store with many, many empty spaces, but this fuckwit is lazy, MUST park in front of the entrance.

Tight squeeze there granny....oops

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better move from there quick lady..

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Yeah, leave your car there while you check the damage..... no one saw you, honest

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Fucking good idea, just piss off home without informing the owner of the car you hit.....

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Respect? My arse

**Should be noted that this driving ability or lack of is not only restricted to old farts, before someone gets his panties in a twist

[Yokohammer]

A particulary useless obaa chan this very morning, car park at a large store with many, many empty spaces, but this fuckwit is lazy, MUST park in front of the entrance.

Tight squeeze there granny....oops

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Respect? My arse

**Should be noted that this driving ability or lack of is not only restricted to old farts, before someone gets his panties in a twist

So, since you have details and documentation that would identify the person who did it, thereby possibly saving the victim a considerable chunk of change in repair bills, what did you do about it?

[chibaka]

I did nothing. No time, in a hurry, work to do... Happened to me last year in another supermarket car park (someone trashed my bumper and fucked off), when I got "Taro of the yard" involved, I was first interrogated before he could be bothered to go around said car park looking for witnesses. In his defence is was raining, bless him. Didn't have a spare hour to spare listen to tooth sucking today...

[6810]

the 言い訳 is strong with this one. Blame someone else, excuse your own inaction. We've all been there. Ends, means, justification and all that.

[Yokohammer]

the 言い訳 is strong with this one. Blame someone else, excuse your own inaction. We've all been there. Ends, means, justification and all that.

Thank crikey someone else picked up on that (I wasn't going to bother). Makes me feel like less of an isolated and cantankerous old fart.


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[wagyl]

Makes me feel like less of an isolated and cantankerous old fart.

Hammer, nobody could say you were isolated or cantankerous. The rest, however...

[Yokohammer]

Makes me feel like less of an isolated and cantankerous old fart.

Hammer, nobody could say you were isolated or cantankerous. The rest, however...

Never denied it!
I wear my old fartdom with pride!

Besides ... I'm a young old fart, relatively speaking.


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[Russell]

Besides ... I'm a young old fart, relatively speaking.

Give it some time...

[matsuki]

I did nothing. No time, in a hurry, work to do... Happened to me last year in another supermarket car park (someone trashed my bumper and fucked off), when I got "Taro of the yard" involved, I was first interrogated before he could be bothered to go around said car park looking for witnesses. In his defence is was raining, bless him. Didn't have a spare hour to spare listen to tooth sucking today...

You could spend a few minutes to print and drop off the pics/written statement with the management/police. (it's not too late now either) This happened to a friend a few months ago, pretty bad damage and all the cams in the parking lot turned out to be fake. Fuck that old bag (not literally) and submit that shit.

*This is also a good reason for a driving recorder that stays on for awhile after the power is cut...

[chibaka]

You could spend a few minutes to print and drop off the pics/written statement with the management/police. (it's not too late now either) This happened to a friend a few months ago, pretty bad damage and all the cams in the parking lot turned out to be fake. Fuck that old bag (not literally) and submit that shit.

*This is also a good reason for a driving recorder that stays on for awhile after the power is cut...

Could do, not sure I'd get any thanks for it though. Very few honkies in my particular inakaville, I still get the stares of doom occasionally from some natives who obviously don't know there is a world outside Japan.

Drive recorder is on my shopping list, not just for monitoring the old folk, driving standards in general are pretty shite.

Just to show it's not all about attacking old fogies, this was taken last Thursday, sadly I didn't see the driver, and no "geriatric on board" badge on display.

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[matsuki]

Could do, not sure I'd get any thanks for it though. Very few honkies in my particular inakaville, I still get the stares of doom occasionally from some natives who obviously don't know there is a world outside Japan.

Think of it as your chance to let them know there are places outside from Japan and gaijin do more than look the other way when they witness crap like this.