''Auld Lang Syne'' vs ''Farewell Waltz'' - closing time

[torasan]

re ''AULD LANGE SYNE SONG'' clsing time song at department stories re


that song that is played at Japanese department stores at closing time?
I found out some background NEW details.

My Scottish friend in UK tells me today:

''Hello Torasan -- Apparently the song is technically not ''Auld Lang Syne'', but instead
the ''Farewell Waltz'' - the difference is the former is in quadruple time, the Farewell Waltz is in triple time (a waltz). That particular
version became famous in Japan in 1949 from the American movie
''Waterloo Bridge'' (first made in USA in 1940), and 1 year later in 1950 when the record got
released is the time it supposedly started to be used for places
closing.''


TRUE?

[torasan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRfEKZUNl3A

[Wage Slave]

Tune played at the end of lessons in schools in Japan. Do you know where it comes from?

[torasan]

Wage, can you post a video or link to the song music tune? I am not sure which song you mean. Good question too!

[Wage Slave]

Not a song but a set of chimes ....Westminster Chimes

[Coligny]

Tune played at the end of lessons in schools in Japan. Do you know where it comes from?

From the depth of hell ?

Isn't Torasan's song famous worldwide anyway ? For once they make sense by saying "it's just a farewell" at closing tiem...

Sidenote, i have to record the daily 5pm music broadcasted through the tsunami alert system... It's nice to check the equipment... Daily is a bit excessive though... And if the tsunami comes at 5 we are as good as fucked... That and the fact that nearly nobody knows it's the "ts00namy of teh death mi00sic"...

[torasan]

Yes, maybe it DOES make sense to be saying just "farewell" at closing time, not goodbye forever, since the story will be opening tomorrow morning. so maybe the song tradition for depato stories does come from the 1949 movie and song album that were popular. Good theory of "farewell" vs "goodbye forever"...

When I asked my good friends in Tokyo about the closing song for departoes, they told me:

Hello Torasan,


Happy New Year! Yes, every Japanese knows this Scottish folk song.

It is the song that we always hear at the closing time of department stores,

shops and events.

Cheers,

M.

I followed that up with a second question, did they think the song started in stores in 1950s following the movie and album of FAREWELL meme, and they replied to me

Hello Torasan,

Much earlier than 1950s......According to the record, Japanese children started singing this song at schools in 1881....

But my question remains if any can find answer WHEN DID THE TUNE in the Japanese stores get started? So the kids were singing it in schools as far back as 1881 but that tells us nothing about WHEN the song started hitting the loud speakers inside stores for closing time. MORE reserach is needed....

[torasan]

FRIEND EMAILS ME:
''Yo Torasan: As the ROBERT Burns Encyclopedia explains re the origins of OLDE LANG SYNE, Robert Burns originally took down “ an old song and tune which has often thrilled through my soul” from traditional sources in 1788. The first traces of a verse resembling “Auld Lang Syne” appear in the Bannatyne Manuscript of 1568, and variants of the final poem were already in circulation by the early 18th century, but the indications are that Burns brought these together, refined them, and produced a definitive version with the benefit of his own talent. Some near-contemporary sources insisted that Burns had privately claimed two out of five verses as his own work, although in 1793 he also claimed it to be: “ the old song of the olden times, and which has never been in print, nor even in manuscript, until I took it down from an old man’s singing.” As for the tune, it appeared as early as 1690 and was reused with several different texts both before and after Burns’s time, and its worldwide popularity was helped by the fact that it uses a pentatonic scale compatible with many traditions of Asian music.''

adding: ''AULD LANG SYNE is a song you’ll hear the world over, from Tokyo to Tashkent. Chances are that a fair slice of the world’s population, of multiple ethnicities, will be either singing it or hearing it at the stroke of midnight on New Year’s Eve. That arguably makes it the single poem with the widest dissemination in the world. ****Even South Korea’s national anthem was sung to its tune, until a new one was composed. *** TRUE RE KOREA?

[torasan]

And email pal adds: ''My friends didn’t know about these origins either, but then none of them are old enough to remember that far back. Some more history here in Japanese on the popularity of the song


http://www.tapthepop.net/extra/17288


Actual scene from the movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVwuS3K7Hcw


(the characters don’t see each other again until much much later in the movie according to the quick synopsis I read)...''

[Coligny]

Congratulation your obsessive disorder makes Russel look like and ADHD posterchild loaded on redbull...

[Russell]

Congratulation your obsessive disorder makes Russel look like and ADHD posterchild loaded on redbull...

Hmm, what do you think I am obsessed with that I look like an ADHD posterchild loaded with redbull?

[Coligny]

After DPRK, i suspect bees...

[Russell]

After DPRK, i suspect bees...

Hmm, those bees were just a temporary interest I had recently.

I found it kind of fascinating that some of them bee keepers do not bother to put on a protective suit, and rather let themselves be stung.

Fascinating, I say, fascinating...

[Coligny]

Yes, in fact you are more of a monomaniac with little ADHD sprinkled on top...
Call me when the fixation wheel stop spinning on the "Russian off road trucks" category...

[Russell]

Yes, in fact you are more of a monomaniac with little ADHD sprinkled on top...
Call me when the fixation wheel stop spinning on the "Russian off road trucks" category...

I am not yet in that league...

[Coligny]

Will come fastur then y00 think...