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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:07 pm

[floatl]Image[/floatl]Yomiuri: U.S. tried to take bones of dead Japanese babies
The U.S. government set out to secretly take bone samples from dead Japanese infants in the 1950s to examine the effects of radioactive fallout, The Yomiuri Shimbun learned..The document, recently declassified, is a letter written by then U.S. Atomic Energy Commission member Robert A. Dudley to Dr. James K. Scott of Rochester University, who was involved in the U.S. government's nuclear program...The purpose of the bone collection project was concealed. The letter said "the unclassified description of our purpose in obtaining these bones is for Ra [radium] analysis." The letter referred to the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission--which was looking into the aftereffects of the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki--and the U.S. Embassy, as the places that can help with collection and shipping of the samples. The statements show Japan was a major target of the project, apparently because the group could use the ABCC as a cover for the project. The document cites the need to collect bones from stillborn babies or infants up to 2 years old, as strontium accumulates easily in infants' bones. It states that they needed six to eight samples from Japan.
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Postby Greji » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:43 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Yomiuri: U.S. tried to take bones of dead Japanese babies


Hmmm. The collection of pathological specimens for medical study has, is, and will continue to be done. What seems to be at stake here, is that the ultimate reason for the study was classified and not announced at that time. Apparently according to the article they were looking for approximately six to eight specimens. One would hardly think that this equates to "taking the bones from dead Japanese babies" in the mass random manner which seems to be the purpose as indicated by the headline.

This type of research would also seem something which would have been considered important especially in the early stages of the cold war time frame with nuclear war a perceived possibility. Given Japan's sensitivity to anything nuclear and the importance (perceived or real) of the research it is easily understand why it would have been classified.

Am I being naive, or could the headline be considered as overly inflammatory in almost equating it to grave robbing? The right leaning Yomiuri tends to like this type of inflammatory reporting approach when reporting, especially on something where they think that the Japanese people can be considered as a victim (except when the offender is Nippon itself).
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:55 pm

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Postby Greji » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:08 pm

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Postby Socratesabroad » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:56 pm

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...
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Postby American Oyaji » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:00 am

What is the actual translation?
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Postby Socratesabroad » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:17 am

American Oyaji wrote:What is the actual translation?


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 1950年代、米政府が、核実験の死の灰による日本人への影響を極秘に調査していたことが明らかになった。本紙記者が、米エネルギー省核実験公文書館で、機密指定を解除された当時の文書を入手した。
According to the document a Yomiuri Shimbun correspondent obtained from archives at the U.S. Department of Energy, U.S. nuclear experts set out to take bone samples from the bodies of babies for analysis.[/QUOTE]

Contrast the phrasing of 入手 here - the correspondent "obtained" the document [文書を入手した] while the US "tried to take bones" [骨入手 - 骨(を)入手(した)].

Same Japanese, vastly different English. A bullsh!t translation, nothing more.
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